so aparently saddam is dead....

[Marc]

Fyi, im not defending him, im just making a point.

A very bad point.

Lets exhume churchills and roosevehelts (sp) remains and try them in a legal court for killing innocent people eh?

 

[Jeremiah]

Fyi, im not defending him, im just making a point.

You are probably making a point most of us agree with. I know Saddam was responsible for horrifc crimes against his own people, I just hope we dont lose sight of the "Allies" doing the same thing to the same people

 

[Himse]

You are probably making a point most of us agree with. I know Saddam was responsible for horrifc crimes against his own people, I just hope we dont lose sight of the "Allies" doing the same thing to the same people

Thank You!

The "allies" so to speak just cover up all the killing they do, because its "duty". At the end of the day, they are all as bad as eachother. I dont think its a bad thing that he's dead, but all political leaders are the same in a way, just the media and public put them into different lights. The public dont create a war, Governments do.

 

[pip]

Good riddance to a evil dictator let it be a lesson to all out there no one is above the law

 

[- English -]

if Britian / America didnt go into Iraq to disarm Saddam.. who knows what would have happened then... you would be crying that xxxx amount of brits/americans are dead from some missiles... I totally agree with the war, although im starting to feel that maybe its time to let them sort its self out now sadam is gone.

 

[Samaroon|Terracotta]

Its only caused more trouble.

Yeah sure he was a dictator, but wait there were no chemical weapons, or nothing. What was he trialed for? There have been more problems since the yanks went into Iraq to be honest, we've taken his life, but his loyalists have taken 10x more of our own soldiers lives.

Its getting to a point where i wonder if it was better to leave him to get on with it and die naturally.

He got sentenced for crimes against Humanity =o

"Two co-defendants, Saddam Hussein's half-brother and a former chief judge, are to be executed at a later date.

All three were sentenced to death by an Iraqi court on 5 November after a year-long trial over the 1982 killings of 148 Shias in the town of Dujail. "
DUmdedum ;]

 

[Himse]

He got sentenced for crimes against Humanity =o

"Two co-defendants, Saddam Hussein's half-brother and a former chief judge, are to be executed at a later date.

All three were sentenced to death by an Iraqi court on 5 November after a year-long trial over the 1982 killings of 148 Shias in the town of Dujail. "
DUmdedum ;]

So, English troops shooting Iraqi's under Blairs order isnt a crime against humanity?

 

[Samaroon|Terracotta]

So, English troops shooting Iraqi's under Blairs order isnt a crime against humanity?

Prolly, i was just quoting why Saddam got trialed, cba getting into a discussion here that I don't know much about rly ^^

 

[Gorbachioo]

himse/english........ think about these things a bit before you come whining about them here

 

[Himse]

himse/english........ think about these things a bit before you come whining about them here

Im not whining, im making a point.

Learn to read previous posts?

There is no Neutral POV on any situation, its either good or bad.

 

[Gorbachioo]

Im not whining, im making a point.

Learn to read previous posts?

There is no Neutral POV on any situation, its either good or bad.

whining or making a point, whatever. You still dont have a clue of what your talking about.

 

[CorNokZ]

Emo Bastard Movie-maker

 

[psyco]

E- for you in Geography and Current Affairs then.

You sure you dont work for the USA Cruise Missile targetting team?

Saddam was leader in Iraq.......

just shows how much i care

 

[liloe]

Its only caused more trouble.

Yeah sure he was a dictator, but wait there were no chemical weapons, or nothing. What was he trialed for? There have been more problems since the yanks went into Iraq to be honest, we've taken his life, but his loyalists have taken 10x more of our own soldiers lives.

Its getting to a point where i wonder if it was better to leave him to get on with it and die naturally.

just dont even try defending him tbh :d you will lose on a million accounts.

Himse is not defending him. Imo he's making a very valid point which I really agree with.

There was no chemical or nuclear or whatever kind of weapon in Iraq, there was just a lot of murdering going on, nothing more. So what? A few dead people here, a few tortured guys over there, who really cares in todays world? After all we're making lovely trades with China and stuff with Russia is going quite good as well. We get their oil and gas and pay them money to kill people in Chechnya.

Fairness? Up to you to decide...

 

[Himse]

Himse is not defending him. Imo he's making a very valid point which I really agree with.

There was no chemical or nuclear or whatever kind of weapon in Iraq, there was just a lot of murdering going on, nothing more. So what? A few dead people here, a few tortured guys over there, who really cares in todays world? After all we're making lovely trades with China and stuff with Russia is going quite good as well. We get their oil and gas and pay them money to kill people in Chechnya.

Fairness? Up to you to decide...

:worthy: Thank you liloe.

 

[- English -]

i cba to argue.. it will be a better world without him.. who disagrees?

 

[Bugz]

i cba to argue.. it will be a better world without him.. who disagrees?

I agree.

Then again, it's a thought-provoking question that perhaps if Bush wasn't here - the world would be a better place.

 

[- English -]

I agree.

Then again, it's a thought-provoking question that perhaps if Bush wasn't here - the world would be a better place.

that could be questioned to anybody... would the world be a better place w/o jippos.

 

[Bugz]

that could be questioned to anybody... would the world be a better place w/o jippos.

Sure but Bush is in a position of immense power and has a lot of relationship to Saddam in regards to current events.

In fact, that kinda fucked up your original point. Why only Saddam when there's alot more evil men in the world?

 

[noblok]

i cba to argue.. it will be a better world without him.. who disagrees?

I do. I don't see what advantage killing him has over life-long imprisonment. If it makes any difference, it'll be a short outburst of violence if anything. Killing him also means that he can't be sued for all his other crimes, nor will there ever (officially) be looked at the bigger picture, since he's only been trialed for a relatively small internal matter.

 

[Raven]

killing him also sweeps the little problem under the floor

 

[- English -]

Well you may have some points but i am no expert with facts to prove you wrong.. if it is possible to prove you wrong.. maybe you can only justify his actions by taking his life.

People everywhere know him for a bad man and for him killing xxxxxx amount of people. Just speak to some experts and try argue with them im backing down with my point just i cba to find information when im on daoc.

I need a representive to proceed my point :d

 

[Shagrat]

ok. So why aren't the likes of Bush, Blair trialed for killing lots of Iraqi's?

There's rather a large difference between what's happening now and what Saddam did.

As far as I'm aware Bush and Blair haven't actually gassed there own people to move them out of the way (which is what Saddam has been executed for).

Saddam commited genocide on his own people. Bush and Blair made an attempt to remove a dictator which hasnt worked out as they planned.

 

[Chronictank]

i cba to argue.. it will be a better world without him.. who disagrees?

the world is a worse place without him you only got to look at the death tolls in Iraq.
He hasn't been doing anything rescently which concerns the world and Iraq and the region was in a state of relative stability.
IF he had WMD's there wouldnt have been a "war" like we saw out of fear he would have just launched them all, as it happens he didnt which is probably why the yanks went after him at this point in time.

killing him also sweeps the little problem under the floor

spot on,
the president of iraq didnt have the balls to step up even at the end, he promoted a deputy to sign for him..
It severed no purpose other than to satisfy the media

Saddam commited genocide on his own people. Bush and Blair made an attempt to remove a dictator which hasnt worked out as they planned.

a bit like Israel's "fight on terrorism"?
The winners/more powerful decide whats right or wrong, its always been like that i dont see the need to split hairs over it

 

[Chronictank]

doh edit timer,
Either way "is it better with him dead?", has been done to death i guess we agree to disagree

 

[Aiteal]

He outlived his usefulness to the US
He was a grand man when he was using nerve gas on Iranian civilians and soldiers
So useful infact that the CIA gave him co-ordinates from US spy satelites.
Sadam did most of his killing/murdering when he was a tool of the West.

Would have been fun if he lived long enough to tell his story, I dare say he was smart enough to keep evidence of the US's complicity in his early days of terror, shame we will never see it now.

Kinda like how Islam Karimov is useful now in the "War on Terror" despite being an evil **** that boils people alive.

And who can forget good old Pinochet's forces killing thousands and torturing tens of thousands in their "caravan of death".
That didn't stop Mrs T having tea with him and the British authorities letting him walk away from justice because he was a frail old man, as if he extended the same courtesy to his victims.

He's just another in a long line of evil ***** that can get away with mass murder as long as they do what the West says.

 

[Huntingtons]

if Britian / America didnt go into Iraq to disarm Saddam.. who knows what would have happened then... you would be crying that xxxx amount of brits/americans are dead from some missiles... I totally agree with the war, although im starting to feel that maybe its time to let them sort its self out now sadam is gone.

but now instead thousand of iraqi civillians are dead, i dont hear anybody really mourn them in western europe or US. Saddam was an evil man etc, but so is bush and blair (and others who joined in on the war, hi Fogh!)
to you english-, which is better, iraqi or american civillians to die?

 

[- English -]

but now instead thousand of iraqi civillians are dead, i dont hear anybody really mourn them in western europe or US. Saddam was an evil man etc, but so is bush and blair (and others who joined in on the war, hi Fogh!)
to you english-, which is better, iraqi or american civillians to die?

iraqi civillians would die anwyay if saddam was still in power... he killed his own people ffs.

didnt anyone else see the news when they pulled down the statue of saddam. Says it all i think.

 

[Basic_X]

took them loong enough

 

[trycorn]

saddam should have been removed when they had the chance in the first war, but no, george bush sr, rather wanted to be friends with him, and tbh george bush should be on trial aswell. The amrican goverment was the ones that gave a semi go ahead 4 saddams soldiers to slaughter the rebellions, witch where told by the US that they would be protected from saddams troops.

and now his son is doing the dirty work and now its been cleaned up with no real evidence left, and shit loads of money 4 the bush family and friends... yay, go go free world sure rox!

og ja fogh skulle ha en god gammel dags gang tæsk i et par uger ^^