Sign it - Repeal the online safety act that was just passed

[BloodOmen]

Lets see if they back down. But I doubt it.

Another case for crypto.

If enough companies threaten to leave they'll have no choice but to backdown or face not only losing millions/billions but also massive job losses across the board. I think in the coming weeks/months the pressure is going to get too much and they'll back peddle it and repeal it (for now), they'll likely amend it and try to push it again later on

That's my prediction

If they don't and stick to it, then they may as well enjoy the time they have left because the peoples voices will be heard come the next GE, assuming we're all still allowed to vote by then if Commandant Starmer has his way.

 

[Scouse]

Nah. What's the alternative?

They're too powerful. Our methods of payment need to not be controlled by governments or corporates. Hence: Crypto.

 

[BloodOmen]

Nah. What's the alternative?

They're too powerful. Our methods of payment need to not be controlled by governments or corporates. Hence: Crypto.

Labour aren't powerful, they only won because people got sick of the Tories and their shit. Given recent events and the back and forth over immigration I'm willing to bet money on Reform land sliding the next GE.. its not a popular opinion but its tangible, look at it logically - Labour have and are still in the process of destroying themselves. No one will trust the conservatives again after the last decade of utter shite and Lib Dems/Green have no chance, that only leaves Reform which is a frightening prospect in itself.

 

[Gwadien]

Good on you, IMO

I was miffed that you ignored the personal. Your equating of Farage with Savile is over the top though.

Yeah it is.

Farage has the potential to be infinitely more damaging to the country than Savile.

 

[caLLous]

Labour aren't powerful, they only won because people got sick of the Tories and their shit. Given recent events and the back and forth over immigration I'm willing to bet money on Reform land sliding the next GE.. its not a popular opinion but its tangible, look at it logically - Labour have and are still in the process of destroying themselves. No one will trust the conservatives again after the last decade of utter shite and Lib Dems/Green have no chance, that only leaves Reform which is a frightening prospect in itself.

So how are you defining the power of a government if not by their majority in an election?

 

[Scouse]

Yeah it is.

Farage has the potential to be infinitely more damaging to the country than Savile.

All politicians have that potential. On current form, he'll probably be a significantly less damaging than Labour.

He'll outrage the left, definitely tho. That's a given.

 

[Gwadien]

Proper inter-war German rhetoric.

 

[BloodOmen]

So how are you defining the power of a government if not by their majority in an election?

Being able to maintain that power and not pissing it up the wall the moment they're in power, like Labour are doing now. Had the public distain not been so great for the Tories, Labour wouldn't have won, I wouldn't call a victory by hate power, i'd call that circumstantial victory.

Further more, I certainly wouldn't call a party that is trying to turn the country into a glorified little China powerful either, I'd call that fucking desperate and an outright betrayal.

 

[Scouse]

Proper inter-war German rhetoric.

Proper pre-war German authoritarian lawmaking.

Farage is talking about it. Labour are doing it @Gwadien.

Is your support for them really blinding you to what they're doing? Or is it more sinister, are you an ideological supporter of those actions?

 

[caLLous]

Being able to maintain that power and not pissing it up the wall the moment they're in power, like Labour are doing now. Had the public distain not been so great for the Tories, Labour wouldn't have won, I wouldn't call a victory by hate power, i'd call that circumstantial victory.

Further more, I certainly wouldn't call a party that is trying to turn the country into a glorified little China powerful either, I'd call that fucking desperate and an outright betrayal.

How are they pissing it up the wall? Why or how they won is irrelevant; they'll be in power for 4 more years and they have a massive majority to push through whatever legislation they want. That's a powerful government, whichever way you look at it.

 

[BloodOmen]

How are they pissing it up the wall? Why or how they won is irrelevant; they'll be in power for 4 more years and they have a massive majority to push through whatever legislation they want. That's a powerful government, whichever way you look at it.

Yup, 4 more years minimum of them pushing more police state shit, that's going to make them very popular.

 

[Scouse]

Right now it looks like they've no hope of getting back in. That makes them dangerous - because they might as well be hung for sheep as lambs.

 

[BloodOmen]

Right now it looks like they've no hope of getting back in. That makes them dangerous - because they might as well be hung for sheep as lambs.

On the flip side, whoever does get in next is just going to repeal almost every single stupid thing they have pushed.

 

[Scouse]

On the flip side, whoever does get in next is just going to repeal almost every single stupid thing they have pushed.

You think so?

Governments historically haven't been great at spreading freedom or giving up power.

 

[BloodOmen]

You think so?

Governments historically haven't been great at spreading freedom or giving up power.

It'll be different this time I think, we're living in a more technology age than ever before and the freedoms people have both on and offline are being eroded by the current government. I think repealing their work is going to be a cornerstone leading up to the next GE.

 

[caLLous]

It'll be different this time I think, we're living in a more technology age than ever before and the freedoms people have both on and offline are being eroded by the current government. I think repealing their work is going to be a cornerstone leading up to the next GE.

Talking about repealing it, maybe. Actually repealing it when they're in power? Far less likely.

 

[BloodOmen]

Talking about repealing it, maybe. Actually repealing it when they're in power? Far less likely.

At this point we have little choice, it's either we keep trusting Labour (lol) or we hope the next fucker has the common sense to at least get rid of the most egregious shit Labour has put into place.

 

[Scouse]

It's why I'm still a staunch supporter of the United States.

Yes, their politics is a clusterfuck, but it's still the only country in the world with codified freedom of speech. Without that it's just a matter of time before you slip into authoritarian asshattery (at best) or outright genocide.

Right now you get locked up in Britain if you say you agree with a peaceful direct action group that are protesting against an ongoing genocide. That's absolutely on Labour. But the previous Tory and Labour governments have all had a hand in taking our freedoms off us (with the complicity of large parts of a cowed population).

I've said it for a long time and been ridiculed for it - Government is the biggest threat any population faces.

 

[Bodhi]

Such an absolute clusterfuck of a piece of legislation, anyone supporting it should be removed from the electoral roll forthwith and probably kept away from any sharp objects.

Put it this way, if you were an entrepreneur who had an idea for an app or other internet based innovation - are you going to set up in the UK, or somewhere with a slightly less oppressive censorship regime?

Like North Korea or Chyyna.

 

[BloodOmen]

Such an absolute clusterfuck of a piece of legislation, anyone supporting it should be removed from the electoral roll forthwith and probably kept away from any sharp objects.

Put it this way, if you were an entrepreneur who had an idea for an app or other internet based innovation - are you going to set up in the UK, or somewhere with a slightly less oppressive censorship regime?

Like North Korea or Chyyna.

Careful now! Labour thinks you're a Jimmy Saville lover if you want rid of it.

 

[Bodhi]

Also - good read for anyone who hasn't considered all of the potential ramifications and thinks it's all about protecting the children, who'll find a way round the blocks in about 7 seconds.

https://thecritic.co.uk/the-road-to-online-hell-is-paved-with-good-intentions/

 

[Raven]

Social media is the real cancer on the internet, porn is not.

Ban social media, everyone ends up happier.

With this idiotic government response, everyone will simply use VPNs, and be open to all sorts of dark shit, mostly undetected.

 

[BloodOmen]

Hardly surprising the Tories are keeping very quiet about it, they were the ones that wrote the fucking thing in 2019, Labour added to it and pushed it through. Both of them are in this together so don't let the Tories off either

 

[BloodOmen]

View: https://youtu.be/irzALtj8UGs

 

[Scouse]

everyone will simply use VPNs

Or spend 3 seconds finding a smaller porn site.

 

[Scouse]

Also - good read for anyone who hasn't considered all of the potential ramifications and thinks it's all about protecting the children, who'll find a way round the blocks in about 7 seconds.

https://thecritic.co.uk/the-road-to-online-hell-is-paved-with-good-intentions/

I just read the first line of this:

What if a rogue AI impersonated a child and had sex with another child — a real one this time

How can an AI have sex with a child?

Ah. OK. VR chatroom.

So basically, a child trying to have a wank finds a responsive AI. Maybe that's the child's fault. And the parent's fault for allowing a kid unrestricted access to the internet.

But considering I can't even get Copilot to draw a picture with the word cunt in it - I find their premise unlikely.

 

[BloodOmen]

USA calls out Keir Starmer: Warns him "Stop threatening US Tech Companies free speech"

Let's see if Starmer bends the knee to the USA

 

[Scouse]

USA calls out Keir Starmer: Warns him "Stop threatening US Tech Companies free speech"

Let's see if Starmer bends the knee to the USA

Lets hope he does.

I mean. He won't.

 

[BloodOmen]

Lets hope he does.

I mean. He won't.

Prob not, the USA can apply pressure to force his hand though if they have too many tech companies whining at them.

 

[BloodOmen]

I'll take optimism over giving up any day Scouse