Should he be charged or not?

[Damini]

Boy 'who was attacked' by Slovakian woman may face racism charge | the Daily Mail

I'm curious as to what you guys think on this.

 

[Sharma]

That's out of fucking order, I have to say i'm siding with the kid.

If the Slovak kids are ganging up and such i'm not suprised he let that slip off his tongue, but beating him up with a lead pipe is fucking disgraceful, they should be fucking deported.

 

[gunner440]

She should have hit him harder.

 

[Frizz]

She should have hit him harder.

Huh? Explain.

Anyway, I think the boy should be charged for inciting racial hatred. If only to make an example of him to try and calm the tension in the area.

That's not to say the Slovakian woman shouldn't be charged, she should get penalised to the maximum extent of the law.

 

[TdC]

hmm beating a kid with an iron rod is going too far no matter what they did or said.

 

[Frizz]

hmm beating a kid with an iron rod is going too far no matter what they did or said.

So should he be let off?

 

[gunner440]

Huh? Explain.

I'm willing to bet that it was incited by the boy in some shape or form. I refuse to sympathise with the boy simply because he is 'young'. If it turns out that he did kick it off with a racial remark then he deserved what he got.

No, I'm not a believer of the 'but no one deserves that' theory, if he's capable of doing something like that then he is capable of receiving his punishment. If he hadn't started it then the woman wouldn't even have noticed him.

It's like feeling sorry for a kid who gets killed running through Brixton dressed as a member of the KKK.

Black power*

*I'm not really black



My cock is though

 

[Furr]

Kid was in the wrong and women was in the wrong for retaliating with a metal bar, so both should get into trouble. Maybe because the eastern Europeans are a new immigrant population it is looked at by the public that they have less rights, What would the reaction be if that person being terrorised by the kid was a Black or Asian, pretty much coming up to the 3rd or 4th Generation of these communities now. If the Kid had chucked the berries and one of those communities and told them to get home and got beaten would there be the same reaction? probably not, anyway if a kid chucked berries at me I'd thump him too!

 

[staniel]

She should have hit him harder.

Or somewhere that it didn't bruise as much.

As far as I am concerned they should both be charged, along with the Daily (Hate) Mail as well, that has got to be one of the most "loaded" news articles that I have read in a long time.

If I had mouthed off to someone as the kid is supposed to have done my mother would have given me a hiding. You just don't do it in my book.

 

[throdgrain]

I think they should all fuck off and leave me alone quite frankly.

 

[Poag]

He should get some sort of punishment for being a stupid kid.

She however should be deported.

 

[TdC]

So should he be let off?

no. his parents should explain to him what was wrong, but also that wrongdoings were committed by both sides. imo ofc.

No, I'm not a believer of the 'but no one deserves that' theory, if he's capable of doing something like that then he is capable of receiving his punishment. If he hadn't started it then the woman wouldn't even have noticed him.

It's like feeling sorry for a kid who gets killed running through Brixton dressed as a member of the KKK.

yeah, so? he's a kid. culpability laws are there for a reason you know. you get mad at a kid, you take it to their parents. you do *not* take GBH to the child. ofc, in this case, the whole situation is broken. still, imo they're both wrong and the kid certainly didn't deserve being beaten with an iron rod.

If I had mouthed off to someone as the kid is supposed to have done my mother would have given me a hiding. You just don't do it in my book.

yup, you and me both. the way it should be imo.

 

[throdgrain]

On reflection though he was probably right anyway.

 

[Calaen]

I blame the parents of the kid tbh, I would bet alot of money on him having heard that kind of talk in his own house. The woman should be punished for going way over the top with her reaction.

The child should be punished also, an example has to be made to try end educate kids that just because someone is foreign they are scum of the earth, its such a backward way of thinking.

 

[throdgrain]

What Cal and she didnt prove him right immediately ?

 

[Wazzerphuk]

The EU should be punished. And the woman. The kid is just a kid, and while inexcusable, deserves a chance. The EU and the woman should know better.

 

[GRN]

Anyone who condones hitting another person, regardless of gender, age and race, with an iron bar for something they said should get their wiring re-checked.

Think about it. Say, you're in a bar and tell someone to go take a long walk along a short pier and make a remark on your perception of their sexual preference and they hit you with a barstool because they just happen to be gay and take offense on what you said.

Ok, that's a bit exacerbated, but it wouldn't be and it most certainly wouldn't be right if you got sued for discrimination or similar after having to pick up your teeth from the floor, now would it? I think not.

Physical violence is physical violence.

And no, I most certainly am not a pacifist. I just don't believe it is justified in any way to inflict physical damage on anyone for no good reason. If someone feels the need to express themselves via violent acts, take up boxing or some such.

 

[nath]

I'm willing to bet that it was incited by the boy in some shape or form. I refuse to sympathise with the boy simply because he is 'young'. If it turns out that he did kick it off with a racial remark then he deserved what he got.

So if someone says something mean to you, violence is justified? What are you, 12?

What Cal and she didnt prove him right immediately ?

Yeah, because a psycho-hose-beast beat up a kid, it's obviously indicative of an entire nation of people, or just those that have come over here?

Not, perhaps, that she was just a psycho-hose-beast?

She should be charged to the full extent of the law for beating a kid. He should be told by his parents why what he did was wrong, but I expect that's not going to happen.

 

[DaGaffer]

In the old days he'd have got a clip around the ear from her and his parents would probably have condoned it. As it is, she may as well hit him with an iron bar instead because she'll get an assault charge anyway. Couple of things though; the whole "hit him with an iron bar" thing seems to be hearsay, and he doesn't look anything like as fucked-up as a 10 year old hit with an iron bar would be expected to look.

As for punishment, as he's 10 it seems a pointless waste of time, and since there don't seem to be any actual witnesses to the alleged assault it all seems a bit of non-starter to prosecute her as well.

 

[TdC]

there is that. I was expecting him to have a corker of a shiner. you do only see his face however

 

[Calaen]

I do not think anyone has said that they condone her hitting the kid.

@ Throd, it is a thin line mate there is no reason at all for anyone to tell someone to fuck off back to their own country. Nothing positive will come from having this attitude.

I would love it if everyone of these people who should (In some peoples minds) go back to their own country stopped working for a week. The country would fall to its knees. You cant pick and choose who you consider good enough. You get good ones and bad ones.

 

[nath]

I do not think anyone has said that they condone her hitting the kid.

Actually Gunner440 said exactly that.

 

[Calaen]

Actually Gunner440 said exactly that.

It was a serious thread I skipped past his post.

 

[JBP|]

The Slovakian woman involved, 35, was arrested and could face assault charges.

And

Jake Stedman was found in a pool of blood after insulting the woman in her 20s, who is believed to have a child at the same primary school.

It's starting to look like a made up story to me.

Or has brooky got a new job?

 

[gunner440]

So if someone says something mean to you, violence is justified? What are you, 12?

If I walked up to a random Eastern European person on the street and made a racist remark and they pulled out a knife and started moving towards me, would I be able to say "Hey, I'm only a kid so that knife is a bit extreme, you can clip me 'round the ear or give me a smack on my bottom instead as those are more acceptable than several stab wounds" ?

No.

My point is that when doing something like that, the person committing the initial incident has 0 chance of predicting how the recipient is going to react. The woman could have just ignored him, she could have told his parents or hell, she could have even gotten turned on by it and asked him to say it again - who knows.

Different people react in different ways - she was the violent type. Do you think the kid would have done what he did (assuming he DID do it) if he knew what was waiting for him?

What if the above woman had received this kind of treatment before but had simply ignored it until receiving what was in a sense the last nudge that sent her over the edge? She might have been completely sane you know and not the normally aggressive type. Everyone has their limits.

It would be interesting to find out if the kid would have said the same to a 7 foot tall Polish Schwarzenegger lookalike.

 

[Calaen]

And




It's starting to look like a made up story to me.

Or has brooky got a new job?

That is not Brooky, there is no spelling mistakes

 

[nath]

That's all well and good but you said he DESERVED what he got. I.e. you suggested that an appropriate response to a stupid racist remark from a 10 yr old is being beaten about the head with a pipe. This is clearly absurd.

 

[Embattle]

He is a little shit and she is supposed to be a mature adult, her reaction in my opinion was over the top but having said that it is while I stand on the sidelines knowing how much I hate these little tykes who seem to get away with a lot.

 

[tris-]

good point JBP, thats some leet journalism skills.

unless its in the times i dont really trust it anyway.

 

[Chilly]

Hes not old enough to know any better, and at that age it's 100% the parents and to a lesser extent the school's fault for letting him have such shitty views. She should have dragged him home and then beaten his waster chav parents instead.

Yes, I made a generalisation, bet you a tenner I'm right.