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Originally posted by stu
2) Islam itself is actually a peaceful and tolerant religion - it respects Jews and Christians, recognises them as "people of the book" (ie people who live by the word of God).
Originally posted by stu
The sad fact is fundamentalism really has nothing to do with religion. It's an excuse. Just as Protestantism or Catholacism really has nothing to do with the kind of violence that goes on in Ireland. Religion is exploited by fanatics to justify what they do.
Re: Nostradamus. I shouldn't put much stock in it if I were you. People frequently quote Notradamus as if he somehow predicted the future. What they don't tell you is that he wrote 15 entire volumes of this nonsense. Added to which, it was in Ancient French. Now, it's hard enough translating Olde English - give me 15 volumes of Chaucerian prose and I can probably retroactively predict the weather tomorrow. Take a vast source of a primitive language we know next to nothing about, and you can translate it to mean pretty much anything you want.
Originally posted by exxie
Stazbumpa
you clearly have NOTHING to add to this argument but your own stupid, ignorant, racist, hateful FUCKING BULLSHIT. Your the type that throws stones at mosques or after a few beers on a Saturday thinks beating on a nigger/raghead/queer is a good laugh.
Fuck Off please.
Originally posted by prime1
To a fundamentalist thier interpretation of the koran is that the islam will be (is?) the most powerful and glorious nation (Islam considers itself a nation as well as a religion), that it simply *has* to be because they are the *true* followers of the *true* god (i am unrelgious myself). The fact that they are not is confusing and frustrating to them, when they look at the West, and see a predominaitely non islam faction as the most powerful and prosperous *nation* they tend to indentify that this is therefore a challenge from *god* and that it is their job to perform *gods will* and make Islam the most powerful etc. This is the view of the fundamentalists, not the normal everyday believers in Islam. The problem is that the fundamentalists have gotten themselves in to a position of power within *many* Arabic/Islamic states, there are also many fundamentalist clerics who either formed their own extremist oppinions or have been leaned on to make it public that they dom whether they do or not.
Turkey.Originally posted by Stazbumpa
I stand by my statement though. Name one Islamic country that even glances at Human Rights. Name one Islamic ruler that isn't insane and wants to annihilate people for his god.
Originally posted by Shocko
Turkey.
Mohammad Khatami. Who is the [liberal] president of Iran, you know, that "evil" country which wants to kill us all
I stand by my previously stated views; You speak much, about which you know little.
Originally posted by Durzel
"Human rights" is subjective anyway. If tradition and culture dictates (for example) that women are excluded from certain decision making processes, and/or are forced to wear clothes that cover their entire body apart from their eyes - is this against "human rights" ?
Originally posted by old.ignus
to give you my completely uneducated and childish view on this (you see what I did there? I put myself down before the do-gooders and arabs in disguise could) Religion is a stupid thing and is perhaps the worlds stupidest invention for people who just couldn't handle the fact that there is no answer to the why and how are we here. The amount of lives lost over people fighting for their "god" without proof of his/her/its existence is beyond belief to a none believer such as myself. Although its arguable that so many people died on Sept 11th because of a difference in religion, it does seem to be the main cause. I think extremists are just fools who have nothing in their feeble lives and have to devote it to something that doesn't exist, (IMO) the islamic religion just seems to be full of these fools who need locking up before they harm not so much themselves but other people. In christinanity you get these fools who stand up in the middle of church or a chapel or whatever and just shout "halleluija!" or "praise the lord!" for no apparant reason (I know I've been there and seen it and could not stop laughing) They force it down the throats of children and others in a hope to make them a believer people like me just reject it like week old pizza or cider. These people should also be locked up.
to summerise:
Religion is evil
extremists are fool and should be shot
I don't know what Im talking about
Originally posted by Stazbumpa
But it seems fairly clear to me that one of the loudest religions on the planet can't seem to listen to anything any bugger ever says. You can't reason with them, you can't negotiate and they are quite prepared to die for what they believe in, albeit in the most ridiculous ways.
I stand by my statement though. Name one Islamic country that even glances at Human Rights. Name one Islamic ruler that isn't insane and wants to annihilate people for his god.
But unfortunately it seems that Islam only reaches this stage in a Western society where respect for Human Rights is backed up by law, and also a freedom of speech to question when this does not seem so.
Originally posted by doh_boy
As for "fools who stand up in the middle of church or a chapel or whatever and just shout "halleluija!" or "praise the lord!" for no apparant reason" can't you just leave them be? They're not harming anyone and they feel what they are doing is right, why the hell were you there if didn't value whaty they were about? You ridicule people with values you don't understand, why? Can you not just live and let live?
Originally posted by Scooba Da Bass
That site points out the actions were done by Fundamentalists, are you STILL not aware of the difference between fundamentalists and those who practice a religion normally?
Would you like me to post victims of religion motivated killings in Ireland? Would that make a statement like 'Christian style retribution?' anymore correct?
What is it with the influx of idiots lately?
Originally posted by Mavoric
Human rights Moslem style
Originally posted by Mavoric
Human rights Moslem style
Such nice folk NOT
Originally posted by stu
That is so laughably ignorant it's untrue. Considering that 'Western society' has spent the past 500 years or so constantly trying to destroy anything which isn't considered 'Western society' (and, by fucking up time and time again, actually putting most of these tinpot dictatorships in place).