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Arethir

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Stallker said:
Rps arnt everything :p
If you were high rr and had spent maybe hundreds of days in this game, and everyone else would be as good as you, for playing only 10 days, im sure you'd get pretty pissed off. You want something back for the time and effort you put into it.
 

Congax

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Arethir said:
If you were high rr and had spent maybe hundreds of days in this game, and everyone else would be as good as you, for playing only 10 days, im sure you'd get pretty pissed off. You want something back for the time and effort you put into it.


It's not like the high RR's wont be able to get rp's anymore. You're all acting as if you've reached the maximum in this game - you haven't.

You'll still be gaining more RP's then casual players, not to worry.
 

Stallker

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Arethir said:
If you were high rr and had spent maybe hundreds of days in this game, and everyone else would be as good as you, for playing only 10 days, im sure you'd get pretty pissed off. You want something back for the time and effort you put into it.


Point is i dont have any v high RR's cos im not fussed bout making xxxlW rps a week i just play for the fun and for the social aspect but each to their own
 

polza

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Arethir said:
If you were high rr and had spent maybe hundreds of days in this game, and everyone else would be as good as you, for playing only 10 days, im sure you'd get pretty pissed off. You want something back for the time and effort you put into it.

erm its a game wat are u expecting back. games are played for fun to pass the time so all you should get back is fun rps have nothin to do with fun. if your playin for any other reason other than fun take a look at your life.
 

Aran Thule

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Arethir said:
Oh, and don't come with this "those who dont play in uber elite set groups will get a chance to get rps", coz they already do! Random people in a zerg gets shtloads of rps very easy. I've been in alot of random groups on my cleric with just anyone in guild who logged on or friends etc, and we easy had 10-11k an hour just running about in the zerg killing stuff. And no, i dont run any set elite groups with these people, it was just anyone who logged on.
Well your lucky then, been running a balanced group around (RR2-7) and the last two weeks we have been getting about 5k rp's from 3 hours running, the weeks before that we were getting twice that.
Main differance is that the last couple of weeks the high RR groups have been running in the mainland and not in agramon and there is nothing we can really do against them.
So in my opinion this will allow the weaker groups to gain more skills quicker so they are not quite as easy to roll over and allow them to have fun rather then getting steamrollers in less then 10 seconds.
 

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Arethir said:
If you were high rr and had spent maybe hundreds of days in this game, and everyone else would be as good as you, for playing only 10 days, im sure you'd get pretty pissed off. You want something back for the time and effort you put into it.
You should take a closer look at the thread about MMO addiction pal
 

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Arethir said:
If you were high rr and had spent maybe hundreds of days in this game, and everyone else would be as good as you, for playing only 10 days, im sure you'd get pretty pissed off. You want something back for the time and effort you put into it.

Mythic should give old-timers a bonus; like +10%. So if you ave 10 mil you would suddenly have 11 mil.
 

Congax

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Jox said:
Mythic should give old-timers a bonus; like +10%. So if you ave 10 mil you would suddenly have 11 mil.


And this would be usefull because? :eek7:


Having a bit of fair competition on an equal scale of RR won't hurt you. Au contraire, it shall only make the game more fun.
 

Notirt

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Arethir said:
If you were high rr and had spent maybe hundreds of days in this game, and everyone else would be as good as you, for playing only 10 days, im sure you'd get pretty pissed off. You want something back for the time and effort you put into it.


If you spent hundreds of days , and someone gets the same rps in 10 days , he´s either a very good player or ................................:)
 

duact

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Aran Thule said:
So in my opinion this will allow the weaker groups to gain more skills quicker so they are not quite as easy to roll over and allow them to have fun rather then getting steamrollers in less then 10 seconds.


i doubt you will get more skilled bcoz of higher rr
 

Kami

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There was me thinking it was meant to be fun playing this game, sounds like some people were too busy chasing RPs to have any :)

Tough shit guys.
 

Elrandhir

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duact said:
i doubt you will get more skilled bcoz of higher rr

Well the skill wont come faster ofc, but they will still be harder, don't think it was like that Aran meant it either though, more like haveing more RR skills would make them harder to kill.

Still even though I think it was good as it was I guess it might be 1 way of helping newstarters, I would rather see this done in BG though, but now it is like this so.
 

GrivneKelmorian

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Jarahl said:
I just got BS'ed by a SB for 1200 dmg, dunno if that was a crit or something, really hope it was, cus omg at that dmg seeing im chain using 8xx af cleric :eek6: This will just promote stealth cocks adding on fights even more.


Jarahl you old gimp :p

that was probably a crit.. but atm, my backstabb cap with a 2h weapon is around 1100 :p
 

Eyres

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if you worked hard to get a promotion at work to get better pay and some fool that arrived the week before and done nothing at all got the same, tell me you wouldnt be slightly annoyed at the fact you worked for somthing and that achievment is undermined by the fact its now been made easy and anyone can do it with much less effort than you ever needed to put in
 

Gear

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Eyres said:
if you worked hard to get a promotion at work to get better pay and some fool that arrived the week before and done nothing at all got the same, tell me you wouldnt be slightly annoyed at the fact you worked for somthing and that achievment is undermined by the fact its now been made easy and anyone can do it with much less effort than you ever needed to put in


You have just managed to give the most irrelevant example ever. This should really be good for you mate.
 

Arumos

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<goes off to respec rm to rc for aoe speers> ! :cheers:

not been in game yet so looking forward to seeing the changes :)
 

brad

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yeh but just remember guys, so what they get more rp's so do you. Your still going to have the advantage being high rr than they are.

And tbh it got preety dull sometimes, killing albs which only giv around 800 rp's or so, as there miles lower rr than i am.

Tbh the changes arn't going to be as bad as people think they are. Yeh yeh yeh, they will gain rr's faster than you did when you created your char, but your still going to be more experienced than them, so what does it matter?
Your still going to be higher RR than them in the long run, your still going to have the edge over low rr people regardless of the new rp earning system
 

Aloca

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Arumos said:
<goes off to respec rm to rc for aoe speers> ! :cheers:

not been in game yet so looking forward to seeing the changes :)

Golden Spear leeching !! Dot spikes!! Insta Dot, Insta DD!!!!!
 

Elrandhir

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Eyres said:
if you worked hard to get a promotion at work to get better pay and some fool that arrived the week before and done nothing at all got the same, tell me you wouldnt be slightly annoyed at the fact you worked for somthing and that achievment is undermined by the fact its now been made easy and anyone can do it with much less effort than you ever needed to put in

you would be for sure, this is why I think a big change in the RP amount reward is bad, it will make those haveing spent lots of time getting where they are to quit(well it might)

I usually say like this as some don't understan if doing more or less only PvE, if you would have made a crafter top lvl and spent ages doing so and when you finally ding LGM a patch comes making all get there in afew days, how would you feel ^^

Might not be this bad, but from some perspective it may feel like it.

In the end the skill of the player will still be the winning factor, but with higher RR it will be harder to kill those who are less experienced also(skill >>>>> RR so I don't think it's a problem)

Still think it's abit bad for those havieng struggled to top RR though.
 

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GrivneKelmorian said:
Jarahl you old gimp :p

that was probably a crit.. but atm, my backstabb cap with a 2h weapon is around 1100 :p

When you killed my outside berks 4 last night , i was on 90% hp then dead , was wondering wtf just happened , till i checked the logs and your pa hit me for like 1300+ , never been hit that hard before :p

The increased 2h PA damage doesnt really bother me , if i get PAed i usually die anyway.
 

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Whats the big deal like ?

On my solo rr4/8 shade <who will never know the opedness of a shade with remedy when infils-/s-blades didnt have> i kill rr6-8 regular and in 1.81 was still getting 1100-1200rp per kill , and in reference to the l-tap comment the person u killed on the bd had prolly killed all the others it was fighting hence u got a large chunk of rp...

Im a fecker for doing this sometimes , especially b4 i dinged rr4 , like one time a m8s champ was fighting lxn and fight ended with lxn winning on 5%hp and i bs2 for full rp which @ my rr was 1300+

Im not gonna comment fully until i see exactly what u get for a solo kill on a similar rr peep , but if the increase is only 10% then no big deal tbh , if its 2 or 3 fold the rps for solo in 1.81 then fair enough its abit harsh on higher rr players ... but this is a direct result of the new ra system imo where all abilities are more expensive and imo the game leaned towards higher rr players ... which is unfair :(

Someone go kill a similar rr imo and s/s the rps gotten <solo ofc> So we can get a clearer picture imo .

Punish <3
 

Tuorin

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Seems a bit silly as might make gaps between lower rr casters and lower rr melee rpwise as harder to leech with meleers ;) Certainly visibles anyway.
 

Elrandhir

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Tuorin said:
Seems a bit silly as might make gaps between lower rr casters and lower rr melee rpwise as harder to leech with meleers ;) Certainly visibles anyway.

This is how all experienced players should be tbh, taking everything calm ^^
 

Jarahl

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GrivneKelmorian said:
Jarahl you old gimp :p

that was probably a crit.. but atm, my backstabb cap with a 2h weapon is around 1100 :p

Who are you calling a gimp?! :p

Yea come to think of it, he did use a 2hander, but still 1200 dmg is madness
 

censi

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encourages leeching and adding.

good news is though i guess if u wanna roll a new toon now is the time to do it. cant see it taking like more than a month get a million RP's without having to play hardcore hours. just like 3-4 nights a week. 60k a nightish.
 

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from the looks of things they have upped the rp reward abit to much, but i'll guess i have to see for myself. although i'm abit sceptical that it seems leeching, adding and zerging will reap huge awards. but at the same time i can understand it abit with the new RRs that's been put into play. RR13 is about 66 milion rps, right? without some boosting of the rps that's just insane :) (although they could have kept it like it was and just lowered the requirement for RR13 :D). but i have to agree with puppet, i'm not looking forward to everyone at oriens bridge to have MoC3.


although on the bright side maybe my old huntress will finaly turn RR5 and i guess it won't hurt my skald or upcoming SB :D
 

raid

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I doubt it makes much of a difference, everyone gains RPs faster now regardless of playstyle. Sure the change "helps" leechers relatively a bit more but who cares. Having a lot of RPs doesnt make anyone any better (I'm a good example of that :().

Overall it is a positive change imo, helps newly rolled players / groups to become competitive faster. Difference between rr9 and rr11 isn't that big for most classes anyway, you still need to get a lot of rps to get noticeably stronger by RAs.
 

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brad said:
And tbh it got preety dull sometimes, killing albs which only giv around 800 rp's or so, as there miles lower rr than i am.

Believe me brad, we feel rly sorry for being low rr and that we can't give you more than ~800 rps per kill.

Thx to GoA that they change this so now you (extremely high RR) will get a few more rps for us low rr albs.


Hint: Theres something behind the race that tells you what RR they are (admitted its hard to know them all but seeing you are 8L2 .. u got it?) so you can pick your targets.


I mean all this in the most friendly way ofc :) /hug brad
 

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