ROFL @ hibs trying a relic raid

[Gahldir]

Yes you have, but several realmm8s of yours have for months said that they'll soon have our relics aswell, but everytime /realm gives me the same info on this matter. but maybe they share GOAs oppinion of soon?

 

[old.chipper]

atrox u might wanna check your times m8 about our first relic raid cos we had your relic before midnight we set off at 10pm GMT that night and got to relic keep about 11 i know there where some failed attempts before that which where bout 2am i know cos i was there but we got owned

as for hibs welldone for trying, excalibur is a damn hard relic to get cos most of us are only 5 minutes away and yes our frontier is bloody hard to get past unless u know where youre going but i have to agree with somedude who said it hibs are gonna be the hardest relic to take simply cos emain is the main staging area i.e. the bowl you HAVE to pass through or close by to it to get to either relic keeps thats gonna be damn hard not sure if id stop a mid raiding party though probably would just to piss em all off although thats helping u lot as well it will take a hell of a lot of planning to get a hib relic especially for us albs cos we have to go through the basin no choice in the matter bit easier for mids they can skirt round the edge

 

[old.Niljindil]

Originally posted by Organ-Grinder
i cant even recall u ever taking a middy keep . maybe thats because u alied with them or you to scared to attempt theres

FYI the first keep to be taken after patch was partially organised by me and involved hibbies taking bleedmeer.

 

[old.Nol]

hmmmm

Once again IRONY, how can you laugh at us hibs, when your attempts have been just as fruitless.

hibs 0 - albs 0 : wake up

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Wuren
yes it diddint turn out so good, but it was a nice try and great job from matinex.

I think no-one was ready for uber guards to spawn so quick again, ½ our ppl rushed to the sides to try to stop the albs from getting inside. But from now on i at least know the way to the keep

Fair point Wuren.

But with the numbers of Albs on the way getting into the keep wasn't that important really.

I think you probably did have enough people there to suceed though (assuming you had rams for the 2nd/3rd doors which it looks like you didn't) but it would have taken a long time and the chances are you'd have been spotted. You were there a fair while and the door was barely scratched.

Not sure any realm could take a Relic if the raid is spotted before even getting to the door cause the NPCs are hard enough without having real players as adds.

No criticism of the Hibbies for giving it a go but lots for the idiots posting here claiming you weren't actually trying to get it.

 

[old.Zanaa]

Your frontier is not hard to get through. Took me 2 tries to go to excal without a group, and only reason i failed first time was cause a patrol in the woods. The problem is that all hibs spend 90% of their Rvr time sitting on their arses at emain alb wall instead of learning areas, and the remaining 10% at/going to crim. 90% of hibs never even contemplated that you can spend some of your non-exp time away from wall or emain. These people will remain newbies as long as they do this, cause after a few days at wall you have already learned everything you can learn there.

Zana, Lliad Ddraig

 

[old.Zanaa]

-And newbies get killed by brown drakes

 

[old.Nol]

um

someone has to stay in emain or we would have no relics...so I say thank you to the newbs.

 

[old.Finster]

if you re spotted before 1st gate is even touched the raid has failed.

if you re spotted on 2nd door you may succeed if you have a very disciplined force.

if you re inside the keep and spotted you have a fair chance.

holds true for and against all 3 realms on this server. they re all strong and most of it is much more balanced now than it was at other times. no flame, enjoy.

Finster, <no longer RB GM>

 

[Thorinn]

Originally posted by Finster
if you re spotted before 1st gate is even touched the raid has failed.

if you re spotted on 2nd door you may succeed if you have a very disciplined force.

if you re inside the keep and spotted you have a fair chance.

holds true for and against all 3 realms on this server. they re all strong and most of it is much more balanced now than it was at other times. no flame, enjoy.

Finster, <no longer RB GM>

That was well said Finster

 

[old.Trapp|Uberleech]

Agree with you Finster.

As fo hibs excuses for not succeeding, I feel a bit ashamed, however, I remember the few ocasions (1?) when albs have tried for hib relic, you guys were all the same, saying -it wasn't planned at all we just threw a bunch of people together and went to hib to have som fun. That's pretty much what we did too.

No ecuses from me, we tried, we failed. So albs (Herbal Congo etc), if you want to show your lameness by laughing, laugh away. May have been a poor attempt, then so be it, I think we learned few things at least.

 

[Eblessair]

Originally posted by C0ngo


Fair point Wuren.

But with the numbers of Albs on the way getting into the keep wasn't that important really.

I think you probably did have enough people there to suceed though (assuming you had rams for the 2nd/3rd doors which it looks like you didn't) but it would have taken a long time and the chances are you'd have been spotted. You were there a fair while and the door was barely scratched.

Not sure any realm could take a Relic if the raid is spotted before even getting to the door cause the NPCs are hard enough without having real players as adds.

No criticism of the Hibbies for giving it a go but lots for the idiots posting here claiming you weren't actually trying to get it.

we only had the rams up for a couple of minutes, which is why the doors were hardly scratched
the one i was operating only had time to hit twice before i got uberganked

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Trapp|Uberleech

No ecuses from me, we tried, we failed. So albs (Herbal Congo etc), if you want to show your lameness by laughing, laugh away. May have been a poor attempt, then so be it, I think we learned few things at least.

Not that I'm very interested in your opinion of me but I was actually laughing at the post from Mirandalia that claimed this wasn't an organised attempt when clearly it was because not many people run about with the parts for at lease 2 rams on them.

Think I might also have said that as you were spotted b4 getting to the doors the raid had effectively failed at that point. Finster seems to be of the same opinion.

 

[granny]

Originally posted by Zanaa
-And newbies get killed by brown drakes

Yup, not ashamed to admit to being a newbie to the alb frontier & relic raids in general

 

[old.NorME]

Yay !! Was a fun raid and we learned alot from it

Too bad i only got control of that Ram abit late lol.. Think i was like last man standing banging the doors and screaming hello..

But great fun it was.

Problems we had:

1. We did not move as an army. Only groups running seperate ways.
2. We did not put up Ram's fast enough. Forget hitting a Relic door.
3. Guards pop really fast.

Solutions ? :

1. Just get all ppl together inside PK. Then move as one group. Get maps ready.
2. Think this can be solved if we move as one army .. Kill guards, set up Ram's. Kill guards , defend ram's.
3. Well they pop that fast .. I just did not know it. But we killed them nicely several times.



So as i said great fun and we learned alot.

 

[Matinex]

Originally posted by NorME


1. We did not move as an army. Only groups running seperate ways.


Solutions ? :

1. Just get all ppl together inside PK. Then move as one group. Get maps ready.

I dont have time to answer all questions here, but this one is just .. oh well, you cant travel as 1 big happy family when you are 40-50 ppl. too laggy

 

[Matinex]

And about the great drake thingie, the main force that organized this agreed to go through them, since its the closest way. However if u cant handle those 2-3 adds of great drakes u are not supposed to be able to take a relic. I think most people know the best way to kill npc monsters by the time they hit lvl 50.

The main reason this relic raid failed was because of the leader of the ram group who everyone was stuck to got LD and the rest of the group had no clue where to go after that, so they released and came back, and guess what, they got killed by the great drakes.

Sorry im not trying to come with a excuse here, but as i see it that was the main reason we did not get further, had to wait for people carrying the rams.

Anyways this is for you guys who wine (organ and congo): next time try it yourselves and let's see how far you get.

 

[old.Trapp|Uberleech]

Originally posted by C0ngo

Think I might also have said that as you were spotted b4 getting to the doors the raid had effectively failed at that point. Finster seems to be of the same opinion.

Has anyone said anything else? so we should have just said ok they saw us, let's suicide. we are not very experienced at keepraids (as you didn't know alrdy ) so could at least just keep going til we were killed to get little more experience. Were no other options really as both relics you albs posess are in that fort makes it pointless switching to attacking snowdonia fort :/

 

[Khalen]

Nice try of you hibs to do it... I had dispatched 1 cleric to confirm if hibs were raiding our relic.. But at the time he arrived I got messages from all over that a massive guard spawn killed them all.. Nice try to take it when we were killing massive mid armies Was fun though chasing mids for a change all the way from Arvakr to the lake/relic keep. Ok we did get wiped then the 3rd time but that was fun. I walked into the croud seeing only a few mids and I ran towards those naughty casters of you without being noticed (I think lag) But at the time I striked at a few all of a sudden a lot of Mids popped up (I think again lag...) So I got ganked a bit hard all of a sudden

All I see are people bribing and saying about pittiful attempts but not 1 saying how bad lag is in massive battles... And I find that one of the biggest issues... (sure it's not the transfer lag but the lag when your pc has to generate over 200 chars in view which it simple can't display on time...)

 

[Armolas]

Well I personally thought that this was a lot better organised than the last raid (yes despite all my whinging on group channel) as we actually had the parts for 6 rams delivered, and all got to the doors mostly together.

I am very surprised no one spotted us in Pennines but when all was said and done we just didn't have quite enough people to handle the guard pops - but at least this time we got the people we did have there to fight them.


For 7the information of the albs saying it must have been organised, it wasn't really that organised - abotu 50 odd people came with us on the dragon attempt, when that failed so badly, we thought "well we have most of our higher levels here, lets have another go at a relic", one group ran to get rams and back, and we all set off.

During the time for gettign rams we did of course lose a few people, and gain some lower levels who saw a force setting off and decided to come along, so we were probably about 40+ odd in Alb, but 10 of those would have been green at best.

So, as someone said its all practice, and we will get better at it.

It was certainly no worse than the Alb relic raids we have seen (unlike the last one which all went Pete Tong very quickly in the ines)

 

[old.Rawkeer]

<Edit> ignore me, i talk shit.

 

[Matinex]

Originally posted by Armolas


For 7the information of the albs saying it must have been organised, it wasn't really that organised - abotu 50 odd people came with us on the dragon attempt, when that failed so badly, we thought "well we have most of our higher levels here, lets have another go at a relic", one group ran to get rams and back, and we all set off.

Sorry but i have to say you are wrong on that one, it was a bit more organised than that actually, the whole plan was to get around 50 ppl and all who were coming had been informed about it, everyone know the route we were taking and it was not "get the rams and lets go" as you say it.

 

[Armolas]

Ok I stand corrected - thats what it seemed like to me anyway, and it was pretty much a quickly organised thing anyway, as far as I can see.

Yes people knew where we were going, yes there was more to it than get the rams and lets go, but not too much more - and not too much more is needed really, we just need more bodies there, as we still don't have enough high levels in the realm to pull something like this off as quickly as it needs to be done.

IMO of course, and a relatively uninformed opinion at that

 

[Matinex]

Im not sure about that we need more bodies there, the people who were intended to come showed up, only problem was that the ram group got lost, and ONE extra group that was not with us from the begginning of the plan got killed by great drakes.

If i wanted more people i would have told more people to come. But i did not cause it would take too much time to organize it and lead them to the place safely, the first 4 groups came just in time, next 2 groups came there after 40 mins and then we were missing 2 groups that got lost somehow (read above).

So lets say all 8 groups would have been there at same time, then it would be very possible for us to bring home the relic.

 

[Khalen]

Don't forget the point that we spotted you guys... So it's pure speculations that you would have made it.. But who cares... It didn't happen so we won't know..

 

[Herbal Remedy]

tried it again today / mebe just suicide but damn it was funny when u pulled all guards at once and stt mezzd, cheered me right up after almost every hib at benowyc had laughed at me solid for 15 mins before i released. names of a few who laughed there asses of at me yet got owned by npcs matinex, niljindi, and not sure but Eblessair and alot of others. Hibs u do suck u cant take a relic yet bost your the best realm , a realm that uses wall bugs, you say best because uve not lost a relic bah your to pussy to come and take anyone elses because the guards own you.

 

[old.Mousah]

nice try, the first down was down when you attacket, we were only 10 ppl defending it and i really thought you would take it,
but guess the uber guardpull wasnt that easy to handle


Mousah mOO
Pikeman 47
<Dragon Knights>
R3 L1

 

[Khefru]

Originally posted by Herbal remedy
tried it again today / mebe just suicide but damn it was funny when u pulled all guards at once and stt mezzd, cheered me right up after almost every hib at benowyc had laughed at me solid for 15 mins before i released. names of a few who laughed there asses of at me yet got owned by npcs matinex, niljindi, and not sure but Eblessair and alot of others. Hibs u do suck u cant take a relic yet bost your the best realm , a realm that uses wall bugs, you say best because uve not lost a relic bah your to pussy to come and take anyone elses because the guards own you.

Yet again herbal shows his maturity in the above post.

What a tool. Grow up boy. If u have nothing better to post than childish taunts, save them for the playground where u probably still get outwitted.

I wasn't there on the raid, but is it any wonder that nearly all Hibs laughed at your corpse? Any Hib that reads these boards will know that u are an imbecile worthy of contempt.

 

[Thorinn]

Hehe yeah we got owned by the guards, but again we still have to learn

 

[Novamir]

Gotta dig my screenie out of Herbal /lau spamming on my corpse a few days ago =) and the subsequent killing of about 20 albs including him the next day..