respeccing friar..

Kinag

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So, I've been planning on respeccing my friar (reason the respec stone at my house is at 8p :p) but I'm not sure if it will really pay off.

Atm I'm 39staff/49enhance/15 rejuv/13 parry, and I want to go 34staff/49enhance/25rejuv/9 parry.

The reason I'm asking is because I'm not really sure if it's worth dropping even more ws to get a bit bigger heal.

My template is done with 25 dex cap, 10 melee speed/9melee damage etc. and 25 buff effectiveness if I swap legs and belt, and 25 heal bonus if I use mace/shield.
 

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imo... do it ill slit ur wrists. mate that is poo
go 49 enhance, 39 staff, 7 rejuv,19 parry:)
 

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That's not even something I would consider.. I'm staying either at 15 rejuv for 30% rez, or going 25..
 

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Kinag said:
The reason I'm asking is because I'm not really sure if it's worth dropping even more ws to get a bit bigger heal.
Stick with your current spec if you like to solo.

I dont solo at all and my spec is 29staff/34rejuv/48enh and I'm going for 44rejuv/49enh once I find a respec stone - using ML-styles when I melee anyway :p
 

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Like to solo? I get my ass handed to me each time I try..

Well, almost each time.
 

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Saggy said:
Stick with your current spec if you like to solo.

I dont solo at all and my spec is 29staff/34rejuv/48enh and I'm going for 44rejuv/49enh once I find a respec stone - using ML-styles when I melee anyway :p
NOO! dont let him poison ur mind kinaq:< evul rejuv friars SHOO be gone
 

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I don't know about your problems with solo'ing, but I can solo perfectly, and I have 7 rejuv/44 staff/47 enhance/12 parry. It'll get you the best self-haste for melee, a side-style stun which finishes your Friar's friend-chain, and 7 rejuv for the cure poison and disease, and the rest in parry. I find this an excellent solo-spec, and if I put up my healfont I can chain-pull reds, and even purples if they're not too high. In my opinion, if you want to go that high on rejuv it might be better to roll a cleric, as you'll get insta's and what-not. ;)
 

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Basically it all depends on how you play your friar, Solo or groups?

I play mine solo the majority of the time and am specced 39St 49 Enh 18rej and 9 Parry. Parry only gives .5% more chance to parry per spec level so imo, more value in getting a few levels in MoParry and a better spec, Staff, more weaponskill obv wanted, use counter evade well and you will noticed a diff, Snare then a couple of heals pays off. With 18 Rejuv you get the next spec Major heal which i get 231hp per cast, hps soon go up fast with good dex. And imo enhance speaks for itself.

But as i say, all down to how you want to play your friar. Out of curiosity, what Masterlevel you and what spec? If you intend on solo rvr, battlemaster is a must imo, great for duos too.

Just my opinions though :)
 

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Equador said:
I don't know about your problems with solo'ing, but I can solo perfectly, and I have 7 rejuv/44 staff/47 enhance/12 parry. It'll get you the best self-haste for melee, a side-style stun which finishes your Friar's friend-chain, and 7 rejuv for the cure poison and disease, and the rest in parry. I find this an excellent solo-spec, and if I put up my healfont I can chain-pull reds, and even purples if they're not too high. In my opinion, if you want to go that high on rejuv it might be better to roll a cleric, as you'll get insta's and what-not. ;)
My Wannabe-Warden-Friar isn't made to replace Cleric, it's made to bring resists/BG/Grapple/heals/ST for my group so no, Cleric isnt' an option for me :cool: Personally I dont find enough time for effective damage dealing so staff spec is more or less useless for me - going to use hammer+shield in my next template :p

edit: People do realize that Friar's rejuv line is better than Warden's regrowth line? :p
 

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A hammer and shield? :eek2:
Well in that case, drop your staff skill completely then, and go for 49 enhance...matter resists are much more important now that warlocks are on the prowl. And since you won't be in melee combat if I'm understanding correctly, you can take up rejuv up to 44 as well. Anyway, just do what you think is best. I get all but the last 2 resists ( matter and cold at 16 instead of 24, which is decent enough if you cap resists on your gear ) I can cure dots and disease, and the parry points are more to use the last few points as you cannot get that other rez with your remaining points. I do excellent damage though, and I'm asked for RvR-groups on more than 1 occasion.
 

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top cold resist is kinda important as its the main nuke dmg type.

mid base nuke (so thats bd's and sup SM's), rm spec nuke, sm LT, eld light nuke.

If your gona group thats a kinda must have ><
 

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Equador said:
A hammer and shield? :eek2:
Well in that case, drop your staff skill completely then, and go for 49 enhance...matter resists are much more important now that warlocks are on the prowl. And since you won't be in melee combat if I'm understanding correctly, you can take up rejuv up to 44 as well. Anyway, just do what you think is best. I get all but the last 2 resists ( matter and cold at 16 instead of 24, which is decent enough if you cap resists on your gear ) I can cure dots and disease, and the parry points are more to use the last few points as you cannot get that other rez with your remaining points. I do excellent damage though, and I'm asked for RvR-groups on more than 1 occasion.
As I said in my first post I'm going to respec to 44rejuv/49enh :cool: I do consider my damage good with 29staff but I find BGing/Grappling/healing far more important and therefore I've no time for meleeing (basically just using ML-styles on tanks while BGing).
 

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Saggy said:
As I said in my first post I'm going to respec to 44rejuv/49enh :cool: I do consider my damage good with 29staff but I find BGing/Grappling/healing far more important and therefore I've no time for meleeing (basically just using ML-styles on tanks while BGing).

you forgot cybering ><

u needstrong staff skeelz for that ;)

soz im not feeling very subtle atm :<
 

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49E 34S, 25R, 12P ist my specc and i m really satisfied. Much more then any other and i tried almost all. The damage decrease is still aceptable.

Another good choice is 49E, 29S, 33R, 3P but the damage output will decrease enormously compared to 39S.

In my opinion these 2 speccs are really good for an allround-friar.
 

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I will play my friar in groups most likely, I'm battlemaster.

But my template is all done and I spent lots of cash on it.. so would be stupid to waste it all when I won't be meleeing ^^
 

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A friar with a hammer and a shield.. Now that's what I call interesting! :)
 

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Deepflame said:
A friar with a hammer and a shield.. Now that's what I call interesting! :)

Sounds a good plan to me. Have lots of +healing on the shield and hammer. One key press to swap to it, one keypress to swap back to staff. After all, you'll not be healing and hitting at the same time !

Darzil
 

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Deepflame said:
A friar with a hammer and a shield.. Now that's what I call interesting! :)
lol... make a freaking cleric:<!!
 

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Mikah75 said:
lol... make a freaking cleric:<!!

Eh, friars get Evade, I sometimes wonder how life would have been for my cleric if he would have been able to evade.
 

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2 good friars advice in here.
Its obviously a matter of what you want, PvE or RvR.

In RvR solo, you will logically not cope anymore on prydwen. Why ? Because you are not RR5+.
In a group, you could be wanted a few more still warlock nerf for your resists, if you are ML10 BM, and have decent rejuv.
On staff level, the variance and the crap ws of friars says it all - 29 or 39 is almost the same, you wont damage ennemy most of the time anyway. The sure thing is that a 44 staff friar can make more damage.
You wont get much more btw over 50 in staff (44+something).
Loss of dodger did not helped survivability in rvr (appart maybe in poc when no vamps about).

Good debate on this subject on TDF as always.
 

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friar ws isnt crap :S if u have a minimum of 39 staff as long as u have the +11 u hit for very nice dmg. i can solo fine in RVR
 

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the 25rej 34staff 49enh is best spec by far for a group friar imo

25rej isnt alot of points, and u dont have to use it, but when u do u will heal for useful amounts with some ToA bonuses/RAs

34staff is enough damage, hybrids dont get much wep skill for train points anyway. 34staff+25dex cap/some melee dmg/speed and u are hitting like a 44staff friar used to in any case.

49 enhance because your grp needs warlock protection and root cc duration reduction.

rest parry, u need some parry if your gonna BG.
 

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There's no such thing as "best-friar-group-spec-thingie"...in my opinion anyway.
50 parry, rest staff would probably be viable too!

Aaaand I did quite good on soloing until I left...at least I like to think so.
 

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Beweg deinen Hintern ins Spiel und gib mir den ML10 Ordistab Ela.

Könnte ihn dringend brauchen, aber es gibt keinen mehr. Schäm dich Kristina das du ihn dir unter den Nagel gerissen hast :)

Und schick mir mal eine PM bei uns, wie es dir so geht, hattest du mir nämlich versprochen, du Nuss.

Sorry for german but its better if not all ppl understand my rude words for a rl lady (Glerina) :p
 

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what did he say what did he say:<!!
i hope ur not influencing rejuv friars circ
 

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Du wolltest ihn ja nicht haben als ich ihn dir angeboten habe! Selberster Schuld ;) und ich melde mich dann jetzt mal bei dir!

Thanks for calling me a lady! :)

He said that he only likes me for my incredibly richyrichness :(
And all the time I thought his feelings were for real!


on a side note:
Straef isn't as annoying when you don't talk to him as often ;)
And when you talk to him, make sure he's all alone so you can say he's insane afterwards!...I heard this from someone so I'm not totally sure tho!

P.S.: I'm clever!
P.P.: too many images : (
 

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Glerina said:
on a side note:
Straef isn't as annoying when you don't talk to him as often ;)
And when you talk to him, make sure he's all alone so you can say he's insane afterwards!...I heard this from someone so I'm not totally sure tho!
(

While typing I forgot that this isn't Straef's birthday thread, but knowing him too much than it can be good for me ;) he'll probably goof around here too!
 

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<3 Saggy :D

It'll be interesting so see 49/44 spec on the friar and the difference in having him playing the class in FG is really really noticable - gives me more time to look for my ae mezz! :p
 

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