Reavers pls help decide :p

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Hi again :p
Making my template now for my Reaver, and got at a crossroad when had to pick a shield :p
Ml9 one or Ml7 one? Dont say crafted one, I need large shield, but cant decide which one is better for a BGing reaver (50 flex / 42 shield / 32 parry / 26 SR) small scale RvR (duo with tic farming stealthers:flame:).
Thanks!
 

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Betrayal said:
Hi again :p
Making my template now for my Reaver, and got at a crossroad when had to pick a shield :p
Ml9 one or Ml7 one? Dont say crafted one, I need large shield, but cant decide which one is better for a BGing reaver (50 flex / 42 shield / 32 parry / 26 SR) small scale RvR (duo with tic farming stealthers:flame:).
Thanks!
ml7 cheaper and easier to get

both are about the same util afaik so unless you have an ml9 or the cash for it id go ml7
 

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Why do you "need" a large shield, and why can't you get a crafted large one...?
 

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Betrayal said:
Hi again :p
Making my template now for my Reaver, and got at a crossroad when had to pick a shield :p
Ml9 one or Ml7 one? Dont say crafted one, I need large shield, but cant decide which one is better for a BGing reaver (50 flex / 42 shield / 32 parry / 26 SR) small scale RvR (duo with tic farming stealthers:flame:).
Thanks!
ml7 imo good utility nice speed looks great and heal proc ;)
 
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I can aquire both ml7/ml9 one that is not a problem, dont need crafted one because can fit one of those 2 in template (with a bit of tweaking :p) until can get kraken / levi stuff for the ultimate template from vn boards (which is a dream but we all dream at times) :>
Thing was what would be more utile in rvr, the 80 heal thingie or the 150/50% abs :p Was leaning toward the ml7 one because not sure the abs buff from shield stacks with som one or with whatever procs from scalars, or with battler / swc charge (which I will abuse every fight I can :p) :>
Thanks for input, and one more question:
- haste debuff from copperhead (viper follow up) can be spammable or gives immunity? (as you blocking several times and restarting chain)
- snare from constrictor is unbreakable or if I get another swing / spell on oponent it will break making it not worth to try use?
Many thanks again all :>
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Betrayal said:
Thing was what would be more utile in rvr, the 80 heal thingie or the 150/50% abs :p Was leaning toward the ml7 one because not sure the abs buff from shield stacks with som one or with whatever procs from scalars, or with battler / swc charge (which I will abuse every fight I can :p) :>

The heal proc will give you life back instantly.
The absorb is like a 150 point crafted ablative. It won't stack with other ablatives crafted onto your armour, or the som ablative.
It will stack with scalars/battler/scw

I'd say the ml7 one is better in general if the rest of the stats don't matter.
Engaging vs none DW'ers with a heal proc shield = :kissit:
 
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Give more solo vamps \\o!!!!!! :>
Thanks for tips :>
 
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Where does that drop Elitestoner, and what mob please?
Can you also be kind please to post it's stats if possible? Many thanks :>
 

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Loonatik said:
Why do you "need" a large shield, and why can't you get a crafted large one...?


caus with a large shield you can block for 3 mobs while small shield only blocks for 1, and medium 2
 

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Left Hand (Sinovia's Sinister Block):
Imbue: 35.0
Cold: 8%
Heat: 8%
Matter: 8%
Spirit: 8%
Armour Factor: 10
Utility: 64.0
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0
 

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Sharaft said:
caus with a large shield you can block for 3 mobs while small shield only blocks for 1, and medium 2

That's exactly why I use crafted shields on my reaver and swap between large and small depending on situation. Slaming targets with a regular large shield simply drains way to much endu.

I just hate the looks of the Sinovia Shield and the util sux.
 

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Sharaft said:
caus with a large shield you can block for 3 mobs while small shield only blocks for 1, and medium 2

I know that but I thought he needed it for RvR where a smaller and faster shield is much better. Still, even if you go for a large one, why not use a crafted one with more utility?
 

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Loonatik said:
I know that but I thought he needed it for RvR where a smaller and faster shield is much better. Still, even if you go for a large one, why not use a crafted one with more utility?

yeah ofcourse! i would never use large in rvr, waaay to slow to even get some damage, but in pve large shield is uber :p but still, the sinovia shield rocks :p nice resist and it does actually look good.. well imo.. :p
 

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Personaly I wouldn't go for a shield that has +shield on it...
 

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Erulin said:
Personaly I wouldn't go for a shield that has +shield on it...

dont need more than +8 and mob 3, caus afaik block caps at 50?
 

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Sharaft said:
dont need more than +8 and mob 3, caus afaik block caps at 50?

No, and it doesn't have diminishing returns after 50 either.

Darzil
 

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Golena said:
The heal proc will give you life back instantly.
The absorb is like a 150 point crafted ablative. It won't stack with other ablatives crafted onto your armour, or the som ablative.
It will stack with scalars/battler/scw

I'd say the ml7 one is better in general if the rest of the stats don't matter.
Engaging vs none DW'ers with a heal proc shield = :kissit:

Armour ablative or Minstrel Ablatives do stack with SoM ablative, I believe, so this should be the same.

Is ML7 shield still a reactive proc ? Came across a patch note the other day that suggested it was now a normal proc.

Darzil
 

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Sharaft said:
yeah ofcourse! i would never use large in rvr, waaay to slow to even get some damage, but in pve large shield is uber :p but still, the sinovia shield rocks :p nice resist and it does actually look good.. well imo.. :p

He's saying Bodyguard reaver, though, so he may be defending against an assist train = multiple foes, so large shield is better.

Darzil
 

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Darzil said:
Armour ablative or Minstrel Ablatives do stack with SoM ablative, I believe, so this should be the same.

Is ML7 shield still a reactive proc ? Came across a patch note the other day that suggested it was now a normal proc.

Darzil


Minstrel ablative doesnt stack with som, when i run ablative in Shademode and it procs it overwrites but when its used the mincer ablative still runs on.
 

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Darzil said:
He's saying Bodyguard reaver, though, so he may be defending against an assist train = multiple foes, so large shield is better.

Darzil


yeah ok, hehe didnt read that, agree with ya that large shield is better for BG, but still solo i would change to a small or medium shield just to cut down some weap speed
 
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Think I would stay with large one even for soloing :>
Has better chance to block more than one oponents, and stealthers add in a nice proportion, I dont plan to slam much, parry chain or viper will give me the stun when I need it, and if really forced to slam, there are end barrels in case swc proc rate wont be acceptable :> As for delay, if can get 4 levis in pve after slaming with shield of khaos (large) 233 qui (no aug, 80 qui in template) 10% melee haste from toa bonuses no haste charge / buff, should work in rvr too :> Of course ones will say 5 levi is better than 4, which I agree completely, but is not end of the world either :> Got ML7 shield now and waiting to finish template mls to go out see how it goes :>
Btw what mob / where drops sililia's necklace and other stuff? Saw a nice melee reaver template made by Kalorian from reaver forums, but uses two of sililia's items and searched for them on Market Explorers and nothing ><
And is assasins WS debuff poison affecting only our WS / chance to hit / damage or affects style damage / proc damage / chance to block / parry as well?
Many thanks again for all replys :>
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Sililia stuff drops from the Egg of Youth arti mob, harpy called Sililia.
 

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Ezeine said:
Sililia stuff drops from the Egg of Youth arti mob, harpy called Sililia.

Really rare drops, I remember giving my Sillia's necklace away to Amanita

She did give me 10 plat though :p
 

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UndyingAngel said:
can be done with 1 very good shield tank and a cleric, thats how I used to farm it.

how the fuck do you kill the pillers while keeping the bird engaged?
 

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