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Maelstar

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Taken from the 1.82 patch notes.

Combat Style Changes

Reactionary combat styles now provide a 3 second window in which they may be used. When a reactionary style is available for use (such as after you block your target and you wish to use a block reactionary style), the reactionary style will register as valid and trigger as long as you use it within 3 seconds. In general, this will make it much easier to successfully perform reactionary styles against enemy targets.

Is it me, or is this game getting easier and easier every patch?
 

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Maelstar said:
Taken from the 1.82 patch notes.

Combat Style Changes

Reactionary combat styles now provide a 3 second window in which they may be used. When a reactionary style is available for use (such as after you block your target and you wish to use a block reactionary style), the reactionary style will register as valid and trigger as long as you use it within 3 seconds. In general, this will make it much easier to successfully perform reactionary styles against enemy targets.

Is it me, or is this game getting easier and easier every patch?

It is ... in 3 or 4 more patches they'll make magic damage about he same as melee damage and take out interupt at all... then it won't matter what you play you just need to press the buttons and you'll win!
 

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I think that single change is going to comepletly ruin any 1 v 1 melee combat, is there even any need to back-up any time styles with reactionals anymore?

When you buy the game it sais you have to be 12+ to play it, yet they seem to want to make it so a 5yo could play and compete with even the experienced players.
 

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more a change to benefit 2H users so please shut up with the QQ its pointless
 

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Eyres said:
please shut up with the QQ its pointless

You sir are a moron.

It's hardly pointless QQ it's a discussion about the question if the game is getting easier and easier which it is. They've turned TOA into a soloable walk in the park ... they're spreading out "realm specific" abilities over all 3 realms ..they're spreading out class specific abilities out over more classes (look at assassins) ... if they keep going at the current pace the game will be Dark age of Warcraft by the time we hit 1.90.
 

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Pirkel said:
You sir are a moron.

just call me a moron because you havent a leg to stand on in the arguement, its just like admitting defeat anyway
 

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kk meight!

Because your argument was so well constructed and well formulated?
 

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if that means that I can use my Hamy chain after a Frosty Gaze finally... :clap:
 

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As has been pointed out before this will actually have a downside for some people:

a) Evade styles are no longer spammable after an evade stun (ie. dragonfang), same goes for other reactional stuns.

b) You can ONLY use the style within 3 seconds, so if someone is swinging slowly, say a 2h user who's been haste debuffed, he may miss the opportunity to style entirely now.
 

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Pirkel said:
kk meight!

Because your argument was so well constructed and well formulated?

as much so as your pointless QQ that apparently isnt QQ its a well constructed critsism.... haha clueless fool
 

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Void959 said:
b) You can ONLY use the style within 3 seconds, so if someone is swinging slowly, say a 2h user who's been haste debuffed, he may miss the opportunity to style entirely now.

You only have to PRESS the style within the 3 second window mate, not carry it out.

For me as a flex user, this is a huge boost for 1 vs 1. As all of our styles (apart from our taunt which is shocking) are based on reactionaries or positional, it'll mean that I wont just be sitting there hitting unstyled or with detaunt or having to resort to run through.

I can't see it doing any classes any harm as such, it just helps the non-anytime spammers out.

Also, don't tell me you've never been annoyed when you parry/evade/block someones attack, try to hit them with a reactionary and a 1 damage bleed prevents you :p
 

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I like the idea of the change, and what its trying to do. I just hope it works as it is meant to. Only trying it out will prove that.

I notice most of the people whining about it of cause are the strafing, positional lunatics. :touch:
 

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The only reason i dont like it is because it's going to make thing's so much simpler, which for me will take the fun out of the game. I liked it when you had to use your brain + quick reactional skills to win fight's, this may be a huge benefit for some (Making certain classes more capable in RvR) but it's going to take alot of fun out of the game.

Imo ofc :p
 

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Eyres said:
as much so as your pointless QQ that apparently isnt QQ its a well constructed critsism.... haha clueless fool

haha!

So
Funny!
 

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i dont like it and i am a 2h user, will make it far to easy to land reactionary styles, apart from this change the latest patches have been top notch though so cant really complain :)
 

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Maelstar said:
I think that single change is going to comepletly ruin any 1 v 1 melee combat, is there even any need to back-up any time styles with reactionals anymore?

Yes because backing up anytimers with reactionarys are really really smart!1! Kinda sounds like you need this change :(
 

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Try gettin a reactionary of with a slow 2-hander against a fast 1-hander

then u will understand what mythic was thinking
 

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well if i get my parry reactive off vs a stealther they die in the 3rd style, not exactly fun for them :/
 

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Kagato said:
I notice most of the people whining about it of cause are the strafing, positional lunatics. :touch:

It will benefice strafers more than toe to toe fighters imo, strafers use positional/opening, now if they see an evade they have enought time to use evade/opening
 

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Ckiller said:
Try gettin a reactionary of with a slow 2-hander against a fast 1-hander

then u will understand what mythic was thinking

why should it be as easy with a slow 2h as with a fast 1h to land a reactionary tho? makes no sence.
 

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Lets see how it works out 1st mayhaps ? Maybe it isnt that big a deal.
 

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Alme said:
why should it be as easy with a slow 2h as with a fast 1h to land a reactionary tho? makes no sence.
You swing, you hit
They swing, you parry
They swing you don't parry
You swing but can't perform the parry reactional because you didnt parry their *last* attack
 

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Void959 said:
You swing, you hit
They swing, you parry
They swing you don't parry
You swing but can't perform the parry reactional because you didnt parry their *last* attack

yes i know, but thats a price u pay for frontloading, why should it not be like that?
 

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Alme said:
yes i know, but thats a price u pay for frontloading, why should it not be like that?
Ah I see what u mean, thought u were asking why it would work that way.

U got a point though, this will allow slow wep users to get reactionaries off a significantly larger proportion of attacks than they actually block/parry.
 

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