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Scratching ones head trying to figure out if you have an IP address conflict as the forums keep dying and not finding anything, solution = change the original IP and see what happens.
 

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Needing 4 new tyres, at £160 a pop.
Don't get me started, car went in for its annual service and was recommended to have all 4 plugs replaced. Fuck me, I used to remember when they were 3 or 4 quid each not 22 fucking quid each.

Still will not get a dynamo car (The Running Man....)
 

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Getting running water back, and then arriving home to find there's been a power cut, the alarm is whinging (not the siren, I'm not that daft), and the oven clock needs resetting.

And then finding that the internet is off.
 

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Also, car not being ready when they said it would be ready. Needed a new flange (fnar fnar) in part of the cooling system, and they broke the one they ordered...
 

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Also, car not being ready when they said it would be ready. Needed a new flange (fnar fnar) in part of the cooling system, and they broke the one they ordered...
So they fucked the flange.
 

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Fucking cable management, soffets, lips, slippery hands, the sun, getting all sweaty.

How hard is it to make a hole in a soffet and feed some conduit through? A. FUCKING HARD.

I have had to give up as I am knackered, up and down ladders, up and down into the loft, letting go off my guide wire so having to start all over again. Have got the conduit to the soffet but it is catching on something so need to make the hole bigger but I am not sure I want to go that high on a ladder.
 

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Having to pay a fuckload for a licence to rent my old house out, with regular inspections - all of which I wouldn't mind if it wasn't for this:


"In the social rented sector with social housing landlords, this is the norm... In the private sector, lots of private landlords do put carpets down but social housing landlords and local authorities in England are not required to put floor coverings down so they usually don't"

Carpets? The house is nicer for my tenants than it ever was when I was living in it myself. It's carpets are new, it's properly decorated, insulated etc. Gas safety checks annually. All maintenance issues dealt with immediately.

The "shit landlords" in Nottingham are all the social housing. I.E. Nottingham council owned properties. The private landlord properties tend to be of a much higher standard.

The whole narrative is about landlords being shit, but in general they're not. It's the fucking councils, the government. Deflecting.
 

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I've never understood wall to wall carpets, lived in UK for years but still never really got it. Why is it so prevalent? Most euro countries have wood/vinyl/plastic and throw down a rug here and there, seems easier to maintain to me (especially with folks wearing shoes indoors, madness)
 

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We've just put carpets down upstairs. Warmer, nicer under bare feet. Sound insulating too.

Downstairs I've slate tiles throughout. Underfloor heating is a total revelation.

But we're changing from "can wear shoes" to "bring your slippers" for visitors. Where we live it'd be a complete and literal shitfest otherwise.
 

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We've just put carpets down upstairs. Warmer, nicer under bare feet. Sound insulating too.

Downstairs I've slate tiles throughout. Underfloor heating is a total revelation.

But we're changing from "can wear shoes" to "bring your slippers" for visitors. Where we live it'd be a complete and literal shitfest otherwise.
Have you ever played "follow the <insert farm animal> shit footprints"
 

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Too much shit everwhere @Deebs. It'd be basically impossible :)
How many times have you or the missus got all dressed up, drove to whereever and then realised your shoes have shit up the sides as you stepped in a wet one ? :)
 

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How many times have you or the missus got all dressed up, drove to whereever and then realised your shoes have shit up the sides as you stepped in a wet one ? :)
We never get dressed up. Fuck that shit. If I can't rock up to a restaurant or venue in my shorts then it's not worth going in :)
 

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The local rag, paywalling themselves into oblivion.
 

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Having to pay a fuckload for a licence to rent my old house out, with regular inspections - all of which I wouldn't mind if it wasn't for this:




Carpets? The house is nicer for my tenants than it ever was when I was living in it myself. It's carpets are new, it's properly decorated, insulated etc. Gas safety checks annually. All maintenance issues dealt with immediately.

The "shit landlords" in Nottingham are all the social housing. I.E. Nottingham council owned properties. The private landlord properties tend to be of a much higher standard.

The whole narrative is about landlords being shit, but in general they're not. It's the fucking councils, the government. Deflecting.
Carpeting tends to be removed and replaced for H&S/liability reasons. Nobody wants to move in to find the last tenants carpet was infested.

Articles like this are always lax because they only focus on very narrow views, rather than a broad section, because those links wouldn't be as click baity.
 

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Carpeting tends to be removed and replaced for H&S/liability reasons. Nobody wants to move in to find the last tenants carpet was infested.

Articles like this are always lax because they only focus on very narrow views, rather than a broad section, because those links wouldn't be as click baity.

I mean yeah and nah, there's also a bit of sensibililty about it.

My Nan lived in a council house, she had a fall and ended up in a home, for a couple of months prior to this they did loads of modifications to her home to make it OAP friendly (wet room for example), when she died they ripped all of these modifications out for a new family and gave them the bare essentials whilst I presume throwing the stuff that was a couple of months old.

Oh, and this in a LA that recently was in national news because their services for social housing is fucking woeful.

So not woeful, just extremely wasteful.
 

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I mean yeah and nah, there's also a bit of sensibililty about it.

My Nan lived in a council house, she had a fall and ended up in a home, for a couple of months prior to this they did loads of modifications to her home to make it OAP friendly (wet room for example), when she died they ripped all of these modifications out for a new family and gave them the bare essentials whilst I presume throwing the stuff that was a couple of months old.

Oh, and this in a LA that recently was in national news because their services for social housing is fucking woeful.

So not woeful, just extremely wasteful.
That's likely because of the prevailing demand at the time and the management of the housing list. Rip & replace of functional installations is bad practice but if nobody on the housing list at the time had the same needs as your Nan then it does happen.
 

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I've never understood wall to wall carpets, lived in UK for years but still never really got it. Why is it so prevalent? Most euro countries have wood/vinyl/plastic and throw down a rug here and there, seems easier to maintain to me (especially with folks wearing shoes indoors, madness)

Because for most of the modern era the quality of British housing stock was complete dogshit (Irish housing stock was worse, and worst of all? New Zealand). Which all have in common damp climates that occasionally get properly cold. The houses had terrible insulation and badly fitting doors and windows, so carpets became a sort-of solution that, at the time, also gave an impression of luxury to the growing middle class. It was a minor illusion of warmth in otherwise draughty houses. It's really only quite recently that actually insulating houses properly has become a thing, and it's driven by cost rather than comfort (in that slightly masochistic British stoicism vein).

I haven't had a home with downstairs carpets since the 90s, but upstairs carpets have usually hung around for noise suppression reasons. We've gradually been getting rid of the upstairs ones as well and we're just about to get a new bedroom fitted in a couple of months so we'll be carpet free.
 

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Because for most of the modern era the quality of British housing stock was complete dogshit (Irish housing stock was worse, and worst of all? New Zealand). Which all have in common damp climates that occasionally get properly cold. The houses had terrible insulation and badly fitting doors and windows, so carpets became a sort-of solution that, at the time, also gave an impression of luxury to the growing middle class. It was a minor illusion of warmth in otherwise draughty houses. It's really only quite recently that actually insulating houses properly has become a thing, and it's driven by cost rather than comfort (in that slightly masochistic British stoicism vein).

I haven't had a home with downstairs carpets since the 90s, but upstairs carpets have usually hung around for noise suppression reasons. We've gradually been getting rid of the upstairs ones as well and we're just about to get a new bedroom fitted in a couple of months so we'll be carpet free.

I will die on the hill that bedrooms need carpets, I suspect you'll get rugs or something for them anyway?
 

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Because for most of the modern era the quality of British housing stock was complete dogshit (Irish housing stock was worse, and worst of all? New Zealand). Which all have in common damp climates that occasionally get properly cold. The houses had terrible insulation and badly fitting doors and windows, so carpets became a sort-of solution that, at the time, also gave an impression of luxury to the growing middle class. It was a minor illusion of warmth in otherwise draughty houses. It's really only quite recently that actually insulating houses properly has become a thing, and it's driven by cost rather than comfort (in that slightly masochistic British stoicism vein).

I haven't had a home with downstairs carpets since the 90s, but upstairs carpets have usually hung around for noise suppression reasons. We've gradually been getting rid of the upstairs ones as well and we're just about to get a new bedroom fitted in a couple of months so we'll be carpet free.
Yeh this, when I bought this house in 2004 I ripped out every carpet and had wood flooring installed downstairs. Upstairs I had new carpets fitted.
 

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I will die on the hill that bedrooms need carpets, I suspect you'll get rugs or something for them anyway?
Oh yeah, but the house is super-insulated now and carpets are inherently dirty even when you take your shoes off, because people spill stuff all the time (especially with teenagers in the house). Rugs are just to make the bed look less bare.
 

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Carpeting tends to be removed and replaced for H&S/liability reasons. Nobody wants to move in to find the last tenants carpet was infested.

Articles like this are always lax because they only focus on very narrow views, rather than a broad section, because those links wouldn't be as click baity.
Extensive personal experience means I can't support this view.

If they replaced the carpet, then yes. But you saw the pictures in the article - that's pretty much the norm with social housing, not the exception. Certainly in Nottinghamshire.

The worst houses, with the worst conditions are council run. The vast majority of private rented landlord accomodation is of a good quality.
 

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I haven't had a home with downstairs carpets since the 90s, but upstairs carpets have usually hung around for noise suppression reasons. We've gradually been getting rid of the upstairs ones as well and we're just about to get a new bedroom fitted in a couple of months so we'll be carpet free.
You just putting proper wooden floorboards in?

I like carpets in bedrooms. They feel great under the feet. We'll see how ours look after ten years though.
 

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Extensive personal experience means I can't support this view.

If they replaced the carpet, then yes. But you saw the pictures in the article - that's pretty much the norm with social housing, not the exception. Certainly in Nottinghamshire.

The worst houses, with the worst conditions are council run. The vast majority of private rented landlord accomodation is of a good quality.
Cool, nobody asked you to. Also you're generalising on both sides.
 

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You just putting proper wooden floorboards in?

I like carpets in bedrooms. They feel great under the feet. We'll see how ours look after ten years though.

The proper wooden floorboards were always there. I just needed to sand and varnish them, which is a massive PITA but they look great. There was just one wonky floorboard in my daughters room that I had to replace in the end.

If I had loads of spare cash I'd have probably gone for parquet floors (proper ones) but it's about 20th on my list of stuff.
 

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We have wooden and stone floors downstairs, carpeted upstairs. I have investigated the floor boards upstairs and the amount of work they would need, it would be pain. Nobody cares about spilling paint on floorboards, apparently, and they must be at least 100-150 years old, when upstairs was added to the house.
 

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