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[Moriath]

tbh it never fails to weird me out that car drivers either don't understand or simply refuse to grasp the concept that overtaking a cyclist is perfectly easy and natural. If you are not in a position to overtake, or overtaking would be illegal, then that would be true for anything on the road in front of you. Am I being to literal and logical here?

I understand it completely. Just a cyclist doing 10 mph or 20 mph on a country road where the speed limit is sixty is a pita.

 

[Bodhi]

View: https://youtu.be/lr0Gq8O60j8


As I said, utter filth.

 

[old.user4556]

I understand it completely. Just a cyclist doing 10 mph or 20 mph on a country road where the speed limit is sixty is a pita.

I nearly killed a cyclist here:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.1...FnZk5JkP3hoAQMKNE49Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

It's a 60mph, but I was doing about 45mph round the bend when I came across a cyclist practically stationary in the middle of the road (it's very steep, hard to tell from that street view). Given it was double white lines I couldn't overtake so had to slam on the anchors to avoid ploughing into him.

Looking back down the hill, the cyclist was about where that cross is:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.1...cMegHWkxkMk_ZoHp6c3Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

 

[TdC]

I wasn't just talking about cyclists. Any traffic. What happens in most of the, frankly horrendous, youtube things I've seen, and in some of the comments on here tbh is that the common view seems to be that the speed limit is the place to be to use the road. It's not...it's the limit. Oh, I know enough of the UK highway code to know that you're not supposed to hold up traffic, but cars, tractors, horsecarts and cyclists are all allowed on the roads. The bottom line is that if it's unsafe or illegal to overtake then you shouldn't. If you can't handle the stress of slowing down for a bit until it actually is safe/legal to pass, then you should question your using the roads in the first place because all that stress will likely both shorten and take the joy out of your life.

Note: the figurative you, not you specifically Mori.

 

[Scouse]

Just a cyclist doing 10 mph or 20 mph on a country road where the speed limit is sixty is a pita.

Awww, diddums.

 

[Moriath]

Awww, diddums.

And dangerous to the cyclist as bigg shows.

 

[Raven]

I nearly killed a cyclist here:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.1...FnZk5JkP3hoAQMKNE49Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

It's a 60mph, but I was doing about 45mph round the bend when I came across a cyclist practically stationary in the middle of the road (it's very steep, hard to tell from that street view). Given it was double white lines I couldn't overtake so had to slam on the anchors to avoid ploughing into him.

Looking back down the hill, the cyclist was about where that cross is:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.1...cMegHWkxkMk_ZoHp6c3Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

I bet he had a smug little look on his face after avoiding death.

I had some cunt try to kill himself with my car the other week, he looked most pleased with himself that he avoided death by about 1 foot.

I still maintain that if it wasn't for gamers twitch reflex I would still be picking bits of the stupid cunt out of the grill on my car.

 

[Scouse]

Why the hate?

 

[Raven]

Why the hate?

Because, through absolutely no fault of my own I nearly killed someone because they don't think common sense and the rules of the road apply to them. In this case crossing from one side of the road to the other without looking, or caring whether there was oncoming traffic.

Imagine if I didn't react (and seriously, they pulled over to the opposite side of the road around 20 feet in front of me, me doing 40, a "normal" driver would have ploughed into them) I still have no idea how I missed him and it shook me up pretty badly. He looked so smug that I nearly killed him that if he had one of those silly little bells, he would have rang it.

We have some great cycle paths around Northampton, you can get from the centre of town to the outlying villages and industrial estates on cycle paths alone, they even send road sweepers down them every few weeks (much of it old railway routes) yet people still insist on using the road, playing dodge the artic truck. One of the largest industrial estates, designed to accommodate cycle traffic is plagued by idiots on bikes.

Cyclists do commit suicide by truck far too often around here, I feel really sorry for the drivers.

 

[Tom]

It's a 60mph, but I was doing about 45mph round the bend when I came across a cyclist practically stationary in the middle of the road (it's very steep, hard to tell from that street view). Given it was double white lines I couldn't overtake so had to slam on the anchors to avoid ploughing into him.

That's called driving too quickly.

 

[Raven]

That's called driving too quickly.

45 in a 60, too quick... lol ok.

 

[Scouse]

45 in a 60, too quick... lol ok.

Blind bend, signed. Yep. You drive to the conditions, not the speed limit.

 

[Raven]

Blind bend, signed. Yep. You drive to the conditions, not the speed limit.

Yep, so wobbling cyclists should really stick to the side of the road, rather than wobbling and wheezing along the middle.

 

[sayward]

I have a mouse/rat. It hasn't eaten the poison blocks or touched the poisoned bait or triggered the 2 traps full of peanut butter. Maybe I frightened it to death.

 

[Scouse]

Yep, so wobbling cyclists should really stick to the side of the road, rather than wobbling and wheezing along the middle.

You drive to the conditions. Blind bend. You're supposed to be predicting a stationary object in the middle of the road. Worst case scenario. Then you drive to those conditions...

 

[sayward]

And why didn't I know there's a key on my laptop that disables the internet?!!

 

[Moriath]

You drive to the conditions. Blind bend. You're supposed to be predicting a stationary object in the middle of the road. Worst case scenario. Then you drive to those conditions...

Worse case scenario would be that theres a stationary car in the middle of the road but you dont crawl round at five mph.

 

[Scouse]

Worse case scenario would be that theres a stationary car in the middle of the road but you dont crawl round at five mph.

Never said you should, but if you're struggling to avoid a cyclist, which is the sort of thing you should expect to be around the corner of a signed tight blind bend, then you're going too fast for the conditions.

What part of this basic driving knowledge are you and @Raven struggling with?

 

[Raven]

Common sense means slow moving vehicles stick to the side of the road and present the least amount of potential danger, as you would walking on the road. You don't stride down the middle...do you?

Actually, you probably do, out of principle.

 

[TdC]

I have a mouse/rat. It hasn't eaten the poison blocks or touched the poisoned bait or triggered the 2 traps full of peanut butter. Maybe I frightened it to death.

try bacon. I got my mouse with bacon.

 

[Moriath]

try bacon. I got my mouse with bacon.

Peanut butter works great for us.

 

[Raven]

I have a mouse/rat. It hasn't eaten the poison blocks or touched the poisoned bait or triggered the 2 traps full of peanut butter. Maybe I frightened it to death.

Its made a home in one of your bras.

 

[Scouse]

Common sense means slow moving vehicles stick to the side of the road and present the least amount of potential danger, as you would walking on the road. You don't stride down the middle...do you?

Completely aside from the fact that there are a lot of very good reasons a cyclist may be in the middle of a road - if you'd struggle to miss a cyclist in the middle of a road you'd also struggle to miss a tractor in the middle of the road. Because it's in the middle of the road.

I think you struggle for sanity because of your deep deep hate sometimes.

 

[TdC]

You drive to the conditions. Blind bend. You're supposed to be predicting a stationary object in the middle of the road. Worst case scenario. Then you drive to those conditions...

there is a popular biking spot near my house that goes in to a natural park. it's popular with bikers, walkers, drivers, all sorts. it's, for the NL, fairly high with a lot of gradient change, and the roads are narrow double-lane things that do a lot hairpin and other severe bends.

I biked there recently, and it boggled my mind to see the amount of cars overtaking just ahead of blind corners that I encountered. In some bends it was possible to see the upcoming traffic, and even there I encountered cars overtaking into the face of oncoming traffic. I probably had my smug biker face on the whole time.

Anyway, the above aside, imo a lot of the traffic works because smart people take in to consideration the behaviour of not-so-smart people, people in trouble for some reason and those lovely unforseen occurrances (like magic black horses appearing out of nowhere, which happened to me while travelling in Norway). It's a bit much to ask someone to be perfect all the time forever but one can indeed exercise common sense. Tbh that includes taking in to consideration that some other road user will not be doing the same.

 

[TdC]

Peanut butter works great for us.

the mouse I had would ignore that. I tried many a night. left traps completely untouched. first night of bacon...bam!

 

[Tom]

It's called driving at a speed at which you can stop in the distance you can see to be clear ahead. It's a fundamental rule of safe driving—you never, ever break it.

Anyone who disagrees with me on this point is a fucking idiot.

 

[old.user4556]

I can't even.

 

[caLLous]

Look at @Tom with his fancy em dash.

 

[old.user4556]

That's called driving too quickly.

I have the highest of respect for you Tom, but that post gave me aids to the power of cancer.

There was plenty of time to stop (because clearly, I didn't hit him), that did not change the fact that I had to slam on the anchors because a) continuing to travel at 45mph would have meant I would have killed the mushroom-head and b) it was double white lines, so illegal to overtake. I had to dribble at 5mph until it was safe to do so. The point being made by Moriath, and what I was reinforcing, is that I really don't think these roads with 60mph limits are the right place for cyclists to be travelling very slowly. But alas, it's everyone else's fault but the cyclists. Who cares if they have the right, they're a hazard to themselves.

 

[Scouse]

I can't even.

Hate to say it G, it was the first thing I thought when I saw the pic...

Edit:

Ib) it was double white lines, so illegal to overtake. I had to dribble at 5mph until it was safe to do so. The point being made by Moriath, and what I was reinforcing, is that I really don't think these roads with 60mph limits are the right place for cyclists to be travelling very slowly. But alas, it's everyone else's fault but the cyclists. Who cares if they have the right, they're a hazard to themselves.

Also, it's A) not illegal to cross the white line in an emergency- such as if you were going to hit him, B) boo-hoo on the dribbling, you mean you had to sit there comfortably in your aircon cabin listening to music? C) yes it IS everyone else's fault because legally cyclists are allowed on the road and it's the job of car drivers to recognise that they don't get exclusive use and that other slower users of the road are going to be there.

They're clearly NOT a "hazard to themselves" - the hazard is the other road users. (We'll ignore the rather selfish "Who cares if they have the right" bit)...

What they are is an inconvenience to car drivers. Fair enough, I accept that. I accept it because A) I'm a car driver and B) I can't go a mile on a road without some cunt buzzing and/or abusing me just because I'm on a bike.

But tough titties drivers. It's not about cyclists - it's also about horses, tractors, caravans, pedestrians, everything else. It's just that it seems acceptable to vent at cyclists for some reason.