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[TdC]

We're you headphone/toilet free all day too? As in, is it possible you were doing -something- that -could- have made you miss a knock/doorbell/delivery/whatnot?

Trust me, I didn't miss them.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Trust me

 

[DaGaffer]

"Did you see that email I sent you?"

Eh.. No, you dipshit? My monitor is not on and I haven't even hung up my coat yet. I've literally just walked in the door

This message brought to you from the year 2006.

 

[DaGaffer]

I have a customer that sends me faxes, and as they are still coming out of the machine he rings to tell me he is sending me a fax, and its contents

Probably because most people's faxes are gathering dust underneath a desk with no paper in them and he's calling from bitter experience. Yes, he shouldn't be using old tech, but hey, you still have a fax number...

 

[Ormorof]

isnt there some nonsense also about a faxed copy with a signature is considered legal but an emailed pdf straight from printer with signature is not?

at least thats what i was told back in the day when i queried why we still have a fax capable printer

 

[DaGaffer]

isnt there some nonsense also about a faxed copy with a signature is considered legal but an emailed pdf straight from printer with signature is not?

at least thats what i was told back in the day when i queried why we still have a fax capable printer

Yup, my bank wouldn't accept some of my mortgage documents by PDF, but they would by shitty fax (although weirdly some of the docs were OK by PDF).

 

[Edmond]

I don't see what's so odd about it, I use the fax at least 3-4 times a day, also I sometimes send 4-5 pages in one go, it would take ages to scan 4 pages on our desktop all in one printer. Yes we do have a dedicated fax line for it too

 

[Moriath]

I don't see what's so odd about it, I use the fax at least 3-4 times a day, also I sometimes send 4-5 pages in one go, it would take ages to scan 4 pages on our desktop all in one printer. Yes we do have a dedicated fax line for it too

It's for your business needs a good tool. My company last company got rid of faxes ten plus years ago. Only thing they were getting used for then was spam from outside companies using paper up with offers.lol

They did put in an ability to accept faxes into our email system. But no one ever used them.

 

[Edmond]

Sure I understand in the IT and office environment, the fax is redundant, but in my type of business they are still very much used. All my suppliers and have them to receive orders, as I said before, I need to draw stuff out by hand and it's the quickest and easiest way to do it

 

[DaGaffer]

Sure I understand in the IT and office environment, the fax is redundant, but in my type of business they are still very much used. All my suppliers and have them to receive orders, as I said before, I need to draw stuff out by hand and it's the quickest and easiest way to do it

In my experience the fax is redundant. Right up until the moment you need it. Then you have to run around the building trying to find the one fax that still works.

 

[CorNokZ]

This message brought to you from the year 2006.

Having your work email on your phone.. Dude, no

When I am off work, I am off

 

[Raven]

Faxes are still used a lot in the building and motor trades. Some builders don't sit in front of a PC all day for some reason...

 

[DaGaffer]

Having your work email on your phone.. Dude, no

When I am off work, I am off

Oh its worse than that. Its on two phones...

 

[old.Tohtori]

Having your work email on your phone.. Dude, no

When I am off work, I am off

This is the reason i feel homework in schools is a very bad idea. It only enforces the current problem of "taking work home" that is causing all sorts of problems with stress etc.

 

[caLLous]

Don't be silly Toht. Homework is a necessary (and very useful) part of education for lots of reasons.

 

[Scouse]

Don't be silly Toht. Homework is a necessary (and very useful) part of education for lots of reasons.

Don't see why study has to be done at home. It could form part of a 9-5 school day, rather than a 9-3 one...

 

[fettoken]

Don't be silly Toht. Homework is a necessary (and very useful) part of learning the correct answers for the tests.

 

[CorNokZ]

Don't be silly Toht. Homework is a necessary (and very useful) part of education for lots of reasons.

Finland doesn't give homework and they have the best educational system in the world m8

 

[old.Tohtori]

Don't see why study has to be done at home. It could form part of a 9-5 school day, rather than a 9-3 one...

This. Homework is not preparation for real life, which school should be. The free time kids have after school should be used for what they want to personally pursue. Hobbies, games, books, writing, whatever they are interested in. Just like we do.

 

[Raven]

Yep, homework is fucking with kids atm, there is far too much of it now. Kids don't have time to be kids.

 

[Gwadien]

I think the best way of tackling homework is giving kids booklets at the start of the year with -all- the work that they're going to be doing throughout the year, then they can answer some questions on each topic, and then hand in the booklets every month or so, and then it's clear to see what the kids struggle at.

Not giving kids homework such as 'Make a space rocket out of bottles' - Parents should be doing that with kids for the lols, not enforced by the schools.

Yes.

@russell i'm looking at you.

 

[caLLous]

As I see it you need to send the kids home with homework in order to get them to figure shit out by themselves. This is the sort of stuff that will prepare them for real life. If you have a teacher standing next to them every time they have a problem, they are going to be hopeless once the real world smacks them in the face. Also, there's a good chance that there would be less stuff taught with no homework because the teachers would have to go over stuff more and work through problems etc (I'm thinking of maths mostly here).

And what about coursework? Are we throwing that out of the window as well? Probably some of the most useful "project management" experience you get early on before higher education and employment.

 

[Scouse]

You get more useful experience by having a life @caLLous.

I can't see any reason to ramp up homework until GSCE time. In fact, too much work for a developing mind is counterproductive.

 

[caLLous]

Let's fuck school off altogether then. Most of it is just taking on board information to pass a test anyway (although having said that I did have a real-world use for 2πr the other day and I remember using 3 4 5 triangles a few years ago!).

And honestly I don't know what homework is like nowadays so I could well be wrong. I'm talking about how it was back in the day.

 

[Scouse]

Let's fuck school off altogether then

Erm... Not quite what I'm saying.

But if you like

 

[Raven]

Its about balance, otherwise we end up with people who have absolutely no idea how to think, thinking isn't just about attaining knowledge through a set syllabus it is about socialising and learning through play.

 

[DaGaffer]

As I see it you need to send the kids home with homework in order to get them to figure shit out by themselves. This is the sort of stuff that will prepare them for real life. If you have a teacher standing next to them every time they have a problem, they are going to be hopeless once the real world smacks them in the face. Also, there's a good chance that there would be less stuff taught with no homework because the teachers would have to go over stuff more and work through problems etc (I'm thinking of maths mostly here).

And what about coursework? Are we throwing that out of the window as well? Probably some of the most useful "project management" experience you get early on before higher education and employment.

Which would be fine, but the reality is that the middle class parents fill the teacher role (and then some) and the point of the exercise becomes moot. (Yes I know there are exceptions). I'm not completely anti-homework, but I do think there's way too much, at too early an age, for very limited return (are all these kids doing homework from age 7 better educated than the school leaver of 30 years ago? I think not).

I don't think anyone is suggesting coursework should be dropped. I certainly wouldn't as I don't think exams are a particularly good arbiter of skills and intelligence (there are definitely lots of people who can do well at exams without understanding the subject at all).

 

[russell]

I hate setting/ doing/ marking homework. Gahhhh.

 

[old.Tohtori]

What i'd do, personal idea/opinion, no real training in the field, younger kids might need a different curriculum yadayada(usual disclaimer bull );

Make school days as per work, 9-5 what have you.
Don't give homework, give assignments. Such as with jobs, "we need this paper by friday". Kids can then choose to do it at home to save time.
Give some time during the day for "personal work hours". Kids can use it as they see fit, with same pressure as with homework(but kept in school), as in your parents will smack you if you don't get it done.
Could also segment this time so that other classes are being taught while other kids do their work. Less students in class, more allocated teacher/kid time.
Give ideas for home, not work. Such as "Here's a paper on how to build a volcano, might want to try it out." Again, choice then to do so if it interests the kid.
Added to above; try to steer the kids to what they seem good at. If they don't "get" biology, or don't seem interested, don't waste time trying t force it on them. Use the time on other things they seem interested in, hell, doubletime in chemistry class.
Hometime is hometime. For siblings, parents, hobbies, what have you.

Just a rough top of head thing i wrote, but youg et the idea.

 

[TdC]

they turned up today. the guy said "over half the delivery staff were sick", which is why it took 3 delivery days intersperced with a weekend to get me a national package.

I've actually had this particular guy deliver stuff before. He's a bit older, and looks/sounds like Catweazel. Also, he wears woman's boots.