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Put 100 carnivores in a room 1 at a time, give them a lamb and a knife and then do the same experiment with a 100 vegetarians and a patch of carrots and I bet you would end up with a hell of a lot more harvested carrots than dead lambs. Not to mention the highly skilled processes of actually cutting the lamb up, removing organs, preparing joints etc etc.

This is true but so what?

If somehow the system that fed us broke down we would kill/eat whatever we could find - just because most of us no longer work in primary food production and have a natural squeamishness about hurting animals does not mean that we wouldnt do it.

As to butchering - all you need are sharp knives - even chimps and neanderthals could do it so I doubt it would take anyone long to pick up as long as you weren't too fussy about particular cuts of meat. The skills are more around treating skins so that they can be used for clothing etc.
 

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This is true but so what?

If somehow the system that fed us broke down we would kill/eat whatever we could find - just because most of us no longer work in primary food production and have a natural squeamishness about hurting animals does not mean that we wouldnt do it.

As to butchering - all you need are sharp knives - even chimps and neanderthals could do it so I doubt it would take anyone long to pick up as long as you weren't too fussy about particular cuts of meat. The skills are more around treating skins so that they can be used for clothing etc.
Higher than birthing an animal, feeding it for the duration of its life and the cost of any medication or drugs (worming etc)? If you take the "effort to get the payoff" out of the equation (which I still think is higher for livestock than vegetables), it indeed boils down to the squeamishness (or OMGTHEHORROR) aspect.

Put 100 carnivores in a room 1 at a time, give them a lamb and a knife and then do the same experiment with a 100 vegetarians and a patch of carrots and I bet you would end up with a hell of a lot more harvested carrots than dead lambs. Not to mention the highly skilled processes of actually cutting the lamb up, removing organs, preparing joints etc etc.


By the same token. This country no longer produces enough vegetables to cover those consumed by the population.
 

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It doesn't have enough animals either really. Certainly not in the wild!
 

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So we should kill and eat each other? I'd like to see the vegetarians win that!

I was just chatting to a girl that works in a different department. You know when a girl is so insanely hot that it makes it difficult to think to speak? Next time she's about I'm going to have to close my eyes so I can have a normal conversation with her.
 

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So we should kill and eat each other? I'd like to see the vegetarians win that!

I was just chatting to a girl that works in a different department. You know when a girl is so insanely hot that it makes it difficult to think to speak? Next time she's about I'm going to have to close my eyes so I can have a normal conversation with her.

Aparrently scientists have proven that there's a significant reduction in ability to process stuff in the brain/reduced intelligence in men when talking/with highly attractive womens.

The cunts.
 

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It doesn't have enough animals either really. Certainly not in the wild!

Deer! We are slowly getting overrun by them since they have no predators - plenty of deer in the woods round here and not that difficult to stalk.

One of those would last my family for weeks.
 

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taking apart an animal successfully is pretty hard work. it's not really done with your pocket nail-clippers you know.
 

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taking apart an animal successfully is pretty hard work. it's not really done with your pocket nail-clippers you know.

It can be done with flint tools quite sucessfully - posessing steel knives makes it so much easier.
 

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sure, but I have neither flint tools or steel knives on my person, and I prefer to pay a butcher to do all the distasteful stuff for me.
 

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sure, but I have neither flint tools or steel knives on my person, and I prefer to pay a butcher to do all the distasteful stuff for me.

Me too - I was just countering the suggestion that everyday people couldnt eat meat without someone to butcher it for them.
 

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oh, no. if I had to take apart animals to do so I would. tbh I think the complete preparation of an animal or complete control over the lifecycle of your veg (eg planting, etc) would give you more satisfaction at the cooking / consuming phase.
 

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oh, no. if I had to take apart animals to do so I would. tbh I think the complete preparation of an animal or complete control over the lifecycle of your veg (eg planting, etc) would give you more satisfaction at the cooking / consuming phase.

Yes but it's way more effecient and humane for specialists to farm than everyone having a go.

My Sister who moved to New Zealand bought an enormous house with hundreds of acres of land and it came with sheep but knowing 0 about how to care for them they have been stalked by disease/parasites. In her first year all the lambs that were born died within a week or two - its not really a hobbyists area.
 

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Have old car parked up out back for the last 6-7 months as it needs some work that i was just going to undertake in the next few weeks. Now my younger brother who has a car of similar age after borrowing it's 4 new tyres to pass his MOT has decided he is selling his car (Worth maybe €300 and wants to use my car for afew months and has said he will fix 1-2 minor problems with it).

Now it's Only worth about €800 and needs maybe a hundred quid spent on it but it flew the mot last year and i really wanted to shift it as i needed the cash, so the question is how do i politely tell him to piss off as i can't sell it when he is using it. Plus i don't see the point in selling his car which runs fine for the tiny amount he will get for it, it's coming across as pushy to me anyway.
 

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so he wants the money and a free car to use? on his fkin bike. He's your brother, no need to be polite ;)
 

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Seems abit cheeky to me tbh, car has been sitting up but thats because tbh i had bills and cba to fix it, all seems abit squatters rights to me tbh. He already has 4 new tyres i paid almost 300 quid for on his car which he can pay to get swapped back over before he sells his car.

I dunno why do family always fucking complicate things.
 

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TdC said:
taking apart an animal successfully is pretty hard work. it's not really done with your pocket nail-clippers you know.

It doesn't have to be a cow or a sheep! A chicken for example is quite a lot easier to kill and then pluck, clean and cook.

They are also very easy to farm on a small scale. Plus you can have eggs as well.
 

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It doesn't have to be a cow or a sheep! A chicken for example is quite a lot easier to kill and then pluck, clean and cook.

They are also very easy to farm on a small scale. Plus you can have eggs as well.

screw that, you get claret and messy bits everywhere. Just go to Tesco and get it all handily pre-bagged. My wife's in charge of messy animal dismemberment, I'm going to useless/living on root vegetables should civilisation ever collapse :(
 

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It doesn't have to be a cow or a sheep! A chicken for example is quite a lot easier to kill and then pluck, clean and cook.

They are also very easy to farm on a small scale. Plus you can have eggs as well.

Any animal is pretty straight forward if you aren't overly fussed about the correct joints of meat. Cut at neck and anus and let gravity do most of the work. Then you are left with basically a bug lump of meat.
 

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Seems abit cheeky to me tbh, car has been sitting up but thats because tbh i had bills and cba to fix it, all seems abit squatters rights to me tbh. He already has 4 new tyres i paid almost 300 quid for on his car which he can pay to get swapped back over before he sells his car.

I dunno why do family always fucking complicate things.

Or tell him that if he pays to have it fixed up, he is welcome to use it for a couple of months before you sell it (and make sure he knows you are selling it!).

Depends how long it's got on its tax/MOT I suppose.
 

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I think they have basically given up trying to persuade people that they aren't all a bunch of mad raving bigots and are now pursuing the cerebrally challenged vote again.
 

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That moment that you pour yourself a drink, get yourself comfy, put a film on and realise you need to make some room for the pizza you just ate.
 

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My Sister who moved to New Zealand bought an enormous house with hundreds of acres of land and it came with sheep but knowing 0 about how to care for them they have been stalked by disease/parasites. In her first year all the lambs that were born died within a week or two - its not really a hobbyists area.

aye. farming and care of livestock animals isn't really for the unprepared who thy to wing it.
 

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So we should kill and eat each other? I'd like to see the vegetarians win that!

Vegetarian nazis
"You eat meat? Wicked child"

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I'd like to see every vegetarian nazi locked in a room full of sausages and bacon. The only way to escape is to eat through 3 inches of salty porky yumminess.

(That sounds dodgy)
 

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(BTW, Blackadder 2 was the best of the lot)
(4 was superb, but need to be in the right mood to watch it - undertones of immense tradegy)
 

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I was in a pub the night the last Blackadder goes forth was on for the first time, and it was on the tv in the background.

The final scene made me cry and all my mates took the piss, cunts
 

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