Quite ridiculous to be honest

[BloodOmen]

Not having a go at anyone here before someone jumps on the band wagon.. just saying this is really ridiculous.

I can understand the part about him going against his religion as it were but put to death for that? the poor bastard only got a 5 minute trial without a lawyer.

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Death row for Afghan downloader

 

[Laddey]

Poor cvnt. And murderes and rapists don't get the death sentance, but he does for downloading an article on women!

 

[BloodOmen]

Poor cvnt. And murderes and rapists don't get the death sentance, but he does for downloading an article on women!

Aye, bloody daft isn't it.

 

[Blackjack]

We've been over this before.

It's obvious that they are stuck in a society, with laws that became outdated 800years ago.
I can understand people being pissed that their country is occupied, i really can. But the problem is that if coalition forces were to pull out of places like Afghanistan now. The extremists would just take over, write the war down as a victory over the infidels, and take the fight us, via suicide bombing and terror attacks.

But i'm getting sidetracked.
It's horrendous that a 23 year old kid is going to be executed for reading about women and islam.
But he should have packed his gear and moved the fuck out of that backwards country if he wanted to be an open minded person. It's their law, he knew it's their law. There is no justice in that system, only punishment for blasphemy.
Want to avoid getting your head lobbed off? Move to a country where that wont happen.

 

[Mey]

Something needs to be done to stop the insanity that is coming out of the Islamic world.

 

[Bahumat]

Such a shame. Stupid fucking idiots probably twisting religion

 

[Laddey]

Such a shame. Stupid fucking idiots probably twisting religion

religion is bollocks, imo

 

[old.Tohtori]

BlackJack said, among his opinions, mine.

Their laws, their ways, he SHOULD and probably DID know that if caught, he'd be sentenced.

His choice to act, not my place to say what their country should or shouldn't do.

do i think it's overkill?(no pun) Yes, but at the same time it's their way.

 

[Gorbachioo]

BlackJack said, among his opinions, mine.

Their laws, their ways, he SHOULD and probably DID know that if caught, he'd be sentenced.

His choice to act, not my place to say what their country should or shouldn't do.

do i think it's overkill?(no pun) Yes, but at the same time it's their way.

Oh for crying out loud, cut the pc crap already.

Yes its their way, but its stupid. And theres nothing wrong about condemning the murder of a 23 year old who was simply educating himself.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Oh for crying out loud, cut the pc crap already.

Yes its their way, but its stupid. And theres nothing wrong about condemning the murder of a 23 year old who was simply educating himself.

No PC crap there, how about you piss off with your "my view is only one right".

I said quite clearly there that i think it's overkill.

Now go f*ck that cow you like to post so much.

 

[noblok]

Want to avoid getting your head lobbed off? Move to a country where that wont happen.

And get sent back because of silly immigration laws.

 

[soze]

And get sent back because of silly immigration laws.

Your not talking about England we do not have silly immigration laws none that say no anyway

 

[Hawkwind]

BlackJack said, among his opinions, mine.

Their laws, their ways, he SHOULD and probably DID know that if caught, he'd be sentenced.

His choice to act, not my place to say what their country should or shouldn't do.

do i think it's overkill?(no pun) Yes, but at the same time it's their way.

Whilst I agree somewhat the scarey thing is, if these same clerics had their way it would be enforced on you as well. The religion has been so twisted by evil weak minded, so called clerics and mullers, it will take centuries to repair the damage.

Radical Islam is not an understanding religion and the people preaching it seem hell bent on nothing less than world domination and death to all ifidels. Just hope the moderate Islamists win their battle to reclaim their religion and live in peace with the west, Christians, jews, and others.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Whilst I agree somewhat the scarey thing is, if these same clerics had their way it would be enforced on you as well. The religion has been so twisted by evil weak minded, so called clerics and mullers, it will take centuries to repair the damage.

Radical Islam is not an understanding religion and the people preaching it seem hell bent on nothing less than world domination and death to all ifidels. Just hope the moderate Islamists win their battle to reclaim their religion and live in peace with the west, Christians, jews, and others.

Yeah, it's quite silly to even think one could change the ways they have, that's why i'm, at the moment, in the "let 'em" camp as it's no worth me to shout "boo wrongdoers!" at the fence.

And yes, if they did rise to power, things would change to that. But again, i live in a society that has own problems too, noone eprfect, it's simply the "human life" factor that brings it to a "shocking" level. They ain't as advanced in "human rights" as we are, but they're no worse then we were.

 

[Blackjack]

And get sent back because of silly immigration laws.

I didn't say move to a freedom loving country like mine or yours.
We don't need filthy afghanis up here. Even if he is a free thinking, educated moderate muslim, who actually has a sense of the twenty first century global society.


No honestly, immigration laws aside.
The problem is, here atleast. That we have so many immigrants who are not, and have no desire to be, integrated.
The little man here, in some cities have so many problems with criminal immigrants, and immigrant groups. That they feel the need to put pressure on the government to do something about it via voting for the hardline parties. And in turn, the government institutes stricter laws in some areas that will not necessarily help solve the problem we have atm.

But this wasn't a discussion on immigrants. But some poor sod getting executed for reading an article on women and islam. So please ignore the main body of my post

 

[tris-]

live and let live.
its not our country, we dont live there, hence their laws/rules/daily living is not the same as ours and shouldnt be compared.

who says our shit is so right?

 

[Gorbachioo]

This "we should like totally understand their ways" thing is just so ridiculous. No, our culture is not flawless. Yes, there is no one right moral system. But killing a student for educating himself is just perverse? k?

I could perhaps understand this point of view if you thought like this about everyone. But what would you say if those were american christians killing people for educating themselves? The fact that these people are poor and stupid is not an excuse for this. It might be for some things, but for murder? No.

 

[old.Tohtori]

This "we should like totally understand their ways" thing is just so ridiculous. No, our culture is not flawless. Yes, there is no one right moral system. But killing a student for educating himself is just perverse? k?

I could perhaps understand this point of view if you thought like this about everyone. But what would you say if those were american christians killing people for educating themselves? The fact that these people are poor and stupid is not an excuse for this. It might be for some things, but for murder? No.

Yeah, ain't you the epiphany of reason

It's not a "like totally understand them", it's a "it's their way". They knock people on the head with a brick in texas, i don't condone it, but it's their law too.

 

[tris-]

I could perhaps understand this point of view if you thought like this about everyone. But what would you say if those were american christians killing people for educating themselves? The fact that these people are poor and stupid is not an excuse for this. It might be for some things, but for murder? No.

our laws are not the same as their laws.

does that make sense?

 

[Gorbachioo]

our laws are not the same as their laws.

does that make sense?

It makes perfect sense.

And?

 

[tris-]

so what the fuck is your point then?

its their laws, they live how they live. just as we live how we live.

 

[Gorbachioo]

so what the fuck is your point then?

its their laws, they live how they live. just as we live how we live.

My point is this: the way they live (as you put it) is stupid. And theres nothing wrong about saying that.

 

[tris-]

so is your way of living from someone elses perspective.

 

[Mey]

Sounds like a job for AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!

YouTube - Team America World Police (FUCK YEAH)

 

[Golena]

My point is this: the way they live (as you put it) is stupid. And theres nothing wrong about saying that.

The fact that we arn't allowed to walk round to your house and kill you for having a different view to us is also stupid. Is there anything wrong with saying that?

If there is your an utter hypocrite.

 

[- English -]

killing someone for reading about another religion is stupid imo

what happened to william wallace and FREEEDOOOM

 

[Gorbachioo]

The fact that we arn't allowed to walk round to your house and kill you for having a different view to us is also stupid. Is there anything wrong with saying that?

If there is your an utter hypocrite.

Eh... what? See this is why i dont bother debating with you.




l0lz:lol:l0lz

 

[old.Tohtori]

Eh... what? See this is why i dont bother debating with you.

You're a hypocrite because you think your way i the only right way and everyone else is living "wrong!".

That's his point i believe.

 

[Jeremiah]

what happened to william wallace and FREEEDOOOM

You killed him!!!

(See what I did there? Har-de-har!)

 

[Gorbachioo]

You're a hypocrite because you think your way i the only right way and everyone else is living "wrong!".

That's his point i believe.

Well the way he made that point wasnt very good, would you agree?


We have been trough this over and over again before. If you want to be a moral relativist then fine. But be sure you are like that to everyone.

You hear a news like this: American man killed by fanatical christians for reading about women and christianity.

Your answer is a) Someone should shoot those lunatics

b) Its their way and we should respect that.

If you can honestly tell me that b would be your reaction then we're done here. But since i know that its not i'll call you a hypocrite.