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Why do they need too?

It was a simple question and only required a simple answer. The short of it is, you cant. Wouldnt it be nice to be able to spend 250 million euro on players in a season?

I think we all know why you wont admit it would be nice because of the all abuse heaped on Manshitty fans on here for spending gazilions on players, wisely or not.

Its a situation any fan of a club would love their club to be in, well any except Manu fans it seems :p
 

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I think his point was what happened them after winning the league and since then.

I dont have time to answer properly right now BUT, I am sure if that was what he meant he would have had some snappy come back thought up and printed by now :p
 

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You know we have a £100 million cash warchest right? We aren't spending because we are being cautious and there is not good value at the end of the market we are looking to buy from.
Just keep on believing that while players like Ozil and Van Der Vaart, who would improve Man Utd ten fold go for less than 15m :p
 

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I'm still crushed we didn't get Ozil :( .....Bayern were mad to sell him at that price though
 

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Just keep on believing that while players like Ozil and Van Der Vaart, who would improve Man Utd ten fold go for less than 15m :p

You didn't buy them either. ;)

Oh and VDV was a very late move in a position we didn't really need to strengthen. Ozil was a miss but he was determined to go to Spain anyway. Next.
 

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Nope, I've been at work without time on the net :/

It's exactly what I meant. Blackburn spent and won the league... then what?

You need stability and a great commercial team to stay at the top both on the field and in terms of profit. United did this quite happily before the glazers, and would again without them.

Arsenal are lucky at the moment, the board isn't likely to sell yet. What football clubs need is FIFA legislation that the club must sell 30% of the club to fans when they float.

Football is heading in the direction of self sustaining clubs. Everything about rich billionaires buying clubs goes against that.

Clubs should not be the playthings of the rich.
 

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You didn't buy them either. ;)

Oh and VDV was a very late move in a position we didn't really need to strengthen. Ozil was a miss but he was determined to go to Spain anyway. Next.

Yea they dont keep going on about having a war chest of 100 million which they are sitting on waiting for some mystical player that offer better value than ...
 

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Or maybe Ozil just didn't want to come to England? I think Fergie has his eye on Schwienstieger instead, or maybe he actually has faith in the squad we have. He said as much in summer, everyone doubted him, but look at the league table.
 

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Yea they dont keep going on about having a war chest of 100 million which they are sitting on waiting for some mystical player that offer better value than ...

Let us see what happens between now and the end of August 2011, if you are right then I will say so but I see United spending big to replace Scholes in 2011.
 

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We need to spend to replace scholes for sure.

Gibson wont be up to standard, no time soon at least.

Anderson (a player i always rated very highly even when others not) is not the same type of player as he hasnt got the passing range. With that siad, he has played some lovely passes in last few games but needs to do it more consistantly. He will develop into a very high quality player but just dont think he have the range scholes has had for so long.

Carrick seems to be getting worse rathr then better. Constantly costing us by giving the ball away

Fletcher doesnt have the passing range or vision
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If these guys come in, they cant go mad with the money anyways due to the UEFA rules coming in. Ok they easy to get around with some thought and if they do it very soon they can spend big this summer and pretty much avoid issues.

Problem is, there is no reason to go spending mad. With exception of that central midfield role we got a strong first team. We just need a playmaker and there is possibility of some coming on the market at reasonable prices in near future. Ozil was a miss but UK was never on the cards there, and tbh VDV is regularly hit and miss plus was one them random deals that squeeze through.

I be more then happy though for these guys to come in, clear the debt. State "here is 150m kitty - this the only amount we putting into club (remember united already got a large amount of money in the bank at the moment that isnt being touched so it not a big investment.

After this investment in, Utd can be left to work of the money they earn as a club which be plenty with no loan payments. They will easily become the club with the largest amount of available revenue to spend.

If they keep out the club running and only have the clause of playing a pre-season match in qatar then things be perfect.
 

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Let us see what happens between now and the end of August 2011, if you are right then I will say so but I see United spending big to replace Scholes in 2011.

Chod tell me your opinion about Luca Modric.
 

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Actually Corran, United can spend big and keep spending big every year. The rules are all about not spending what you cannot afford. Well with the Glazers gone and no debts to service, £300 million revenue every year (growing too) United will be in the black for at least £50 million a season. The debt is the major issue, without it United are the healthiest and most profitable club in the world.
 

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Chod tell me your opinion about Luca Modric.

Talented player but has proven to be a bit lightweight against the biggest sides so far, have seen him totally vanish on at least three occasions playing against United and that always worries me about a player with so much ability.
 

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cause i really believe that this player can givf a lot to Man. Un.
 

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cause i really believe that this player can givf a lot to Man. Un.

Invention? Definately, clever player. I am just not sure he has to heart to fight a full season against the best sides in the world. Happy to be proven wrong though and I know Fergie really rates him.
 

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what about this portugal guy (dont remember his name lol) ? Neither in the first 18?

the guy that you bought from a portugal club this year.
 

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what about this portugal guy (dont remember his name lol) ? Neither in the first 18?

the guy that you bought from a portugal club this year.

Bebe? Very rough, has potential but he needs alot of work to get to the top. Tom Cleverly is looking like he could be good enough given time, we also have young Ravel Morrison who has great potential.

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i think that Fergi doesnt believe him so much, right ?
 

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i think that Fergi doesnt believe him so much, right ?

If you look at him and analyse the positives then he has two good feet, explosive pace and determination. What he currently lacks is crossing ability, an understanding of his team mates and the way they play but also some physical strength to cope with the demands of English football.

He has a good chance, he is at the right club to develop but he is still very much a risk at this time. Fergie sees potential but getting him to fulfil that potential will not be easy.
 

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i hope that this guy will take a chance to prove his ability.

Btw, another guy that can be a very good Scholes's replacement is Kaka.

Sounds stupid i know. But dunno i like it.
 

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i hope that this guy will take a chance to prove his ability.

Btw, another guy that can be a very good Scholes's replacement is Kaka.

Sounds stupid i know. But dunno i like it.

Couldn't afford him me thinks, well until they get rid of the current owners :)
 

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Actually Corran, United can spend big and keep spending big every year. The rules are all about not spending what you cannot afford. Well with the Glazers gone and no debts to service, £300 million revenue every year (growing too) United will be in the black for at least £50 million a season. The debt is the major issue, without it United are the healthiest and most profitable club in the world.

£50m aint really big in this day and age... im talking about spending £100m + every season as some teams do (badly :p ). But you not said anything really different to what I said tbh
 

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Don't expect United to suddenly start spending 100m-200m+ on players if the Qataris take over. I'm sure they'll invest in a few key players (an attacking CM, world-class RB and a goalkeeper), all of which they're looking for anyway, but they still won't necessarily go nuts for any of them. The difference will be in the wage bill; they'll be able to stop players leaking away to Spain and the lower tax rates, or across town to City; but its not Ferguson's style to import a dozen mercenaries; even when United had the money to do so in the past.

NB, is caughtoffside the worst site ever for transfer rumours? Have they ever got one right?
 

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Dont need a goalkeeper. We already purchased one that is on his way in January. Already trained with us :)
Sure he may not be a world beater at the moment, but he solid enough and to be fair the goalkeeping position is so hard to fill as the best keepers will never be available.

Rightback, rafael is coming along now but definately need someone else to help cover that position as he lacks experience which shows in some big games. But he getting better all the time.

Creative midfield is the money area that we got to spend in for sure. Even our wings are beginning to look more secure with Park getting more offensive minded and thus given better cover for the Nani/Valencia combo.

Until Fergi leaves we wont be the big spenders of the City/Madrid standards. Fergi likes to get the youth through the ranks where he can, and build a legacy that lasts for many years. Maybe a new manager would splash the money around if they could but cant see fergi ever doing that. Spending a largish amount on the odd player is all he really ever done
 

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You know what might be a viable money saving option...if we were somehow able to...Clone Scholes!
 

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Dont need a goalkeeper. We already purchased one that is on his way in January. Already trained with us :)

They're still looking at more cover in goal. Lindegaard may be the answer but with Kuszczak and Amos still very much second string, there will be another goalkeeper signing; don't forget that now Foster is gone, they're already down one on their normal goalkeeping complement, Fergie will want two keepers to replace Foster and VDS.
 

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They're still looking at more cover in goal. Lindegaard may be the answer but with Kuszczak and Amos still very much second string, there will be another goalkeeper signing; don't forget that now Foster is gone, they're already down one on their normal goalkeeping complement, Fergie will want two keepers to replace Foster and VDS.

De Gea or Neuer will be coming in next summer as a replacement for Edwin retiring. Lindgaard is a long term signing with potential but he is not expected to push for the number 1 spot for about 3 years.
 

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i hope that this guy will take a chance to prove his ability.

Btw, another guy that can be a very good Scholes's replacement is Kaka.

Sounds stupid i know. But dunno i like it.

Kaka's finished! Milan let him go because they knew his knees are fucked!
 

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