Prydwen : 20 % hibernia 40 % midgard 40 % alb

[Dorin]

I'm not saying that it's not more difficult to get those 5 fgs of hibs together for some RvR. What I am saying is that it's far from impossible. Like I said before, the problem exists because people choose not to RvR, not because there aren't enough people. If you can get 100+ people into DF inside 30 mins of it opening, or 100+ hibs out to defend a relic, there's no reason why you can't get 100+ hibs to emain. People just choose not to go.


Look, i think you didnt get the point. In the other 2 realms, there are ppl who choose NOT to rvsr aswell. But who cares if /who shows 600+ ppl.[On alb Excalibur, 900+ players = 100ish ppl in emain, according to you, they should have 300 ppl in Emain?] You will find plenty rvsring, crafting, doing pve raids, leveling alt , new player etc.Many hibs choose not to rvsr becouse we dont have a chance in realm vs realm warfare, only in 1fg vs 1fg encounters (yea we got like 2 fixed rvsr grps, that means 16hibs, yaaay!). Population wont rise becouse many new comers choose Albion / Midgard over Hibernia, couse if you start a character here without a presetup guild-group, you will have a goddamn hard time leveling up your char. (its almost near impossible by now.) Oh and the reason why we cant get 100+ hibs in Emain? Well maybe becouse 75-125 lvl 50 players online while the other 2 realms got 200+. Relic Raid? pointless as we cant defeat an army which has 2x(or maybe3x) our numbers and defending. Wont forget the 200+ albs in Forest Sauvage on one of our relic taking attempt. At that time hib usually got 150 lvl 1-50 ppl online. So pls dont even try to explain why cant we do this or that, obviously you didnt lvl up a character here to 50 and tried to rvsr with it. Do that and you may understand how annoying is the " trip to emain, the 4 fg albs at amg, the 5fg mids at 1pm, loosing Crauchon on daily basis". As i said many times, Hibernia is good for rp farming with a nice rvsr guild (due to the odds), but as a realm its fucked. (/relic, /realm: DF kinda shows that.)

 

[Dorin]

Originally posted by cadiva
None of my Hib chars got past lvl 10 because I could never find anyone to group with. The ones that got to level 10 got to level 10 because there was a chap in our Midgard guild had lvl 50 chars on Hib and one day he came out and buffed my chars and helped me level them to 10.

So, while it probably is true that there are less people on Hibernia, from my own experience it would be nice if some of the people who are on Hibernia actually bothered to be polite and speak back to people who ask their advice on things.

Now obviously, there are going to be exceptions to this rule and I'm sure there;s boatloads of really really nice people in Hibernia but I have to say I found 4 of them, one I already knew, 2 were in the same guild as the guy I already knew and one was someone who very kindly answered the questions of a newbie who wanted to know about Celtic Duel.

In conclusion, I apologise for the length of this post, all my Hibernian chars have been consigned to the dustbin and my guildmates and me now have a once a week bash night back on Alb/Pryd.

PS: Oh and I think most people who know my chars would say I'm a nice person and not at all a l33t d000d or anyone else you wouldn't want to talk to

By reading your post you just showed why this realm is dead:

1, no low lvl xp grps (ppl will give up, mostly the dudes from alb/mid excal, who find grps rather easy... hib excals wont come here afaik: )
2, no high lvl xp grps (there is one, at 4fins... everyday a new chanter gets to 50, then he pl-s his buffbot and shade, great.)
3, who did you ask? lvl 50s? 90% of them are really nice lads, maybe you have found one that is not : )

 

[hangianix]

Yeh Dorin, he prolly asked you (j/k)

Nincs harag remelem

 

[iziz]

Originally posted by Dorin
lots and lots of stuff in here, compressed 100% by me to avoid even longer posts than I usually make

I don't need a lecture about running out to emain, DC getting taken etc etc etc, you're talking to someone who has run out to emain solo many, many times, when there were no people about to rvr with, albeit on excal. Hell, I even had a guild in the top 10 there, when I was the only person in the guild. I've leveled in all realms on both servers, and I have a number of RL friends there, so I actually have a fair idea about what the problems are in pryd/hib... and I know it's not population. It's an issue, but it's not the reason you can't get more than 1fg to RvR.

I was quite amused by this though:

Originally posted by Dorin
Many hibs choose not to rvsr becouse we dont have a chance in realm vs realm warfare

You made it very clear I am wrong, and yet you made my point for me. You refer to Many hibs. How many hibs would that be? Would you perhaps, (and this is just a thought that occured to me. Quite a simple one tbh. I'm amazed it even popped into my head because it seems so simple) have enough people to RvR if these Many hibs who choose not to rvsr because [you] don't have a chance, decided to put their egos aside and work together in RvR?

Just a thought.

Oh... and I heard hib was able to get a fairly decent sized force together yesterday... (although I wasn't on at the time so I don't know if this is accurate or not).

 

[Dorin]

Hangianix: nincs , de kedves alb barátaidnak magyarázd el, hogy miért nem jó prdywen/hibernia mert nem értik : )
Iziz: its not becouse of only the egos dude... we gather 2fgs we meet 4fg, we gather 4fg we meet 6fg, no matter how many we are, the enemy will outnumber us sooner or later. Yes many hibs gave up after meeting odds that we cant handle and switched realm , lvled up a stealther or simply quit the game. But you are speaking about the "selfishness" and sadly its true at some point. There are some ppl in the underdog realm that likes 1fg vs 1fg encounters and "checks back later" if the enemy is more then 2fg rather then trying to organise the rvsring hibernians to wipe out the enemy zerg [yea, its hard and some ppl not really encourage this]. But as i said above there are times when some nice ppl try and lead the hibs in Emain [the only person doing it now is Trelawney afaik, cheer kiss for you mate] and make wonders, but the story ends when albion ports 5+fgs to Emain.
So sometimes its great to be a hib, but mostly not.
many hibs: 1-3fg to make it clear for you

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

We need NP back again

 

[AzuratMinimus]

Originally posted by Dorin
many hibs: 1-3fg to make it clear for you

With 2fgs you can whipe most mindless zergs anyway. Just need everyone to cooperate and not all tanks/casters having diffrent targets. Also need em to protect healers.

 

[old.Cher]

1-3fgs of random hibs, mainly chanters.... and often with bugger all healing.

my lvl 36 warden was the main healer for a group of hibs last night.... and he has 5 regrowth.

 

[mid-sinister]

Dont whine about mids attacking DC with 5FG when you are 2FG defending, oh and btw, it wasnt 5FG, unless this is a diffrent time...

We attacked DC with 2-3fg, 2fg hibs defending and they wernt doing very well, we were bonedancer heavy and lots of shadowblades came along to get the ones on the battlements, hibs were bundled in the lord room quite a bit before the last door dropped.

When the last door was literally about to drop, another 1-2fg midgards came and we killed all the hibs at the lord, and then the lord together.

Anyway, dont whine about so many mids attacking DC, reguarly at bledmeer there is reports of "guard was just killed by 45 enemies at your outpost" Bledmeer faste was just captured by the forces of hibernia, they then either log there or sit there for days on end to farm anyone who attacks the keep.

 

[old.Aure]

The trick to Hib Pryd is tolerance of the odds I think. Enjoyable 1fg vs 1fg fights are had, 1 vs 2fg possible or 2 v 2 etc. Everytime you are victorious in a close fight on Hib Pryd, the secret is to prepare to leave the zone. The next fight your foes are more, so you know that the next time you /release you are going to a different zone. I took 4 months off, some things are better, some the same. Whats the same is no matter how many you are the others are more that applies 24/7. 1 good win, = more than you next time.

Hibs have grown up being overwhelmed 24-7 for over 14 months, and in the end no matter what we do we can't compete like the other two 95% of the time. A bit like most FA cup games, the underdogs put on a good show and can do the odd giantkilling act, but lose in the main. Its not quality however, its quantity. sure its great fighting the top Alb/Mid foes as 1fg or 2fg, don't mind that at all, thats what you go for. Its the 2fg that become 5 or 6 in a few secs. In the end there's no _real_ control really over that from either Hibs or Albs tbh so all you do is leave the zone.

Have to agree with Sinisters though, the Bled odin's lot shows Hibs can have numbers, and it isnt alwasy sense to do that, its just that those people dont go Emain cos after their one win, theres more opponents. People log, /who emain and well over 80 Albs a week last Saturday and 35 lvl 50 Hibs online. So the other point about making 5fg to fight 5fg is stymied that those people know whatever they do they get overwhelmed. It make take 2 hours to make those 5fg and voila one win and theres 100 albs porting over, so even if numbers theoratically there, the practice and experience is that its pointless.

In the end the whole arguent is futile, its really Mythics game design that creates. Alb and Mid are intrinsically more appealing than Hibernia and the main rvr zone is Hib frontier in which the Hibs cant port to or get there so swiftly.


Will the free lvl 20's or maybe lvl 30 in Hib Pryd case move peeps to Hibernia? What's peoples thoughts on that? More alts or newcomers?

If more alts, it just weakens the weak.

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

The problem with Hib/Pry is that it has become the playground for bored Mid/Alb Excalibar players.

Add FOTM classes and mindless PL'ing = Hibernia being shyte at the moment. I cannot count the "do u have focus shield m8?", "PL me plz!!1" messages I get everyday.
Nerf mana chanters now for fucks sake, so we can get rid of all the wannabe mana bombs...

But hey... we have Cher, the fwiendly Firbolg shade.

 

[Sharma]

Originally posted by Uncle Sick(tm)
But hey... we have Cher, the fwiendly Firbolg shade.

Must be an extremely small firby then

 

[old.Greggor]

Originally posted by old.Aure
Will the free lvl 20's or maybe lvl 30 in Hib Pryd case move peeps to Hibernia? What's peoples thoughts on that? More alts or newcomers?

If more alts, it just weakens the weak.

the free 20 or 30 lvl charater is only for people for 50th lvl charaters, so more alts

 

[old.Cher]

problem being, is people have to be demented to stay in hib..... least i'm still sane!

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Originally posted by old.Cher
least i'm still sane!

I object, yer honor.

 

[amazingsteve]

Originally posted by Derric
Heh,not us then