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willowywicca said:
Well suppose your target has 50% resists, with the debuff you'd be facing 37.5% resists (-12.5% from a 10% debuff since it's 1.25*delve like most things in daoc), so instead of doing 50% of your dmg you'd be doing 62.5% of your damage, which equates to a 25% increase in damage output ( 12.5% of 50% = 1/4) For that 25% to be a +50 dmg gain, it means you were hitting for 200 damage prior to debuffing. (since 25% of 200 = 50). Therefore the debuff nuke hits for 200 less damage. 200 - 200 = 0. Therefore you're saying the debuff nuke does 0 damage against people with 50% resists.

Anyone can see this is not true, therefore, you are clearly completely wrong and thus since no one else has expressed differing views, we are forced to conclude that I am right!

HAH! :flame:

my head hurts :(
 

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Got a nice crit on PA today. 1268 damage, hmm now i want crit on offhand aswell:)
 

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willowywicca said:
Well suppose your target has 50% resists, with the debuff you'd be facing 37.5% resists (-12.5% from a 10% debuff since it's 1.25*delve like most things in daoc), so instead of doing 50% of your dmg you'd be doing 62.5% of your damage, which equates to a 25% increase in damage output ( 12.5% of 50% = 1/4) For that 25% to be a +50 dmg gain, it means you were hitting for 200 damage prior to debuffing. (since 25% of 200 = 50). Therefore the debuff nuke hits for 200 less damage. 200 - 200 = 0. Therefore you're saying the debuff nuke does 0 damage against people with 50% resists.

Anyone can see this is not true, therefore, you are clearly completely wrong and thus since no one else has expressed differing views, we are forced to conclude that I am right!

HAH! :flame:
clearly that formula can't be correct since I do only 50 more dmg on my bb with 48% cold resists after my debuff nuke. And the debuff nuke does 400 dmg instead of 600 with my normal spell without pre debuff nuke. So sure call me wrong but I prefer to look at live in game facts than paper facts :)
 

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Arid|Disci said:
Throw weap :D nerf

throw weap

done 515+211dmg with TW on jov xd just cant host any pix ;<

provoke i did 665+266 on minimez and the 639+293 on Zel :)

someone gib webspace so i can upload! :d
 

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Rohac said:
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Hmm wtf. when was this?. Mortificator attacks you with his sword. I must been drunk as hell. I use rapier/dagger.And i dont remember ever beeing 2shooted.

Dont drink and daoc?
it was ages ago in df. I had to check stats at time, presumed you were not lvl50, but you were.
 

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willowywicca said:
Well suppose your target has 50% resists, with the debuff you'd be facing 37.5% resists (-12.5% from a 10% debuff since it's 1.25*delve like most things in daoc), so instead of doing 50% of your dmg you'd be doing 62.5% of your damage, which equates to a 25% increase in damage output ( 12.5% of 50% = 1/4) For that 25% to be a +50 dmg gain, it means you were hitting for 200 damage prior to debuffing. (since 25% of 200 = 50). Therefore the debuff nuke hits for 200 less damage. 200 - 200 = 0. Therefore you're saying the debuff nuke does 0 damage against people with 50% resists.

Anyone can see this is not true, therefore, you are clearly completely wrong and thus since no one else has expressed differing views, we are forced to conclude that I am right!

HAH! :flame:

u such a geek willow :p
 

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willowywicca said:
Well suppose your target has 50% resists, with the debuff you'd be facing 37.5% resists (-12.5% from a 10% debuff since it's 1.25*delve like most things in daoc), so instead of doing 50% of your dmg you'd be doing 62.5% of your damage, which equates to a 25% increase in damage output ( 12.5% of 50% = 1/4) For that 25% to be a +50 dmg gain, it means you were hitting for 200 damage prior to debuffing. (since 25% of 200 = 50). Therefore the debuff nuke hits for 200 less damage. 200 - 200 = 0. Therefore you're saying the debuff nuke does 0 damage against people with 50% resists.

Anyone can see this is not true, therefore, you are clearly completely wrong and thus since no one else has expressed differing views, we are forced to conclude that I am right!

HAH! :flame:

worse than alevel maths :touch:
 

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Zebolt said:
clearly that formula can't be correct since I do only 50 more dmg on my bb with 48% cold resists after my debuff nuke. And the debuff nuke does 400 dmg instead of 600 with my normal spell without pre debuff nuke. So sure call me wrong but I prefer to look at live in game facts than paper facts :)

are you by any chance only 50 dmg from your cap before debuffing? (owing to the fact that yes, you have relics, which I originally stated was something that must *not* be the case if the debuff is to be worthwhile) Anyway post a screenie of the debuff dmg.. but it's pointless since I'm talking about it being worthwhile when you have no relics, and you're talking about how it is atm with relics..
 

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willowywicca said:
are you by any chance only 50 dmg from your cap before debuffing? (owing to the fact that yes, you have relics, which I originally stated was something that must *not* be the case if the debuff is to be worthwhile) Anyway post a screenie of the debuff dmg.. but it's pointless since I'm talking about it being worthwhile when you have no relics, and you're talking about how it is atm with relics..
I can't respecced to supp a week ago..
 

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i want to whine :(

onigiri baseline nuke hit harder then maeloch spec nuke does, even though i know he got better equipment :(
 

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Lejemorder said:
i want to whine :(

onigiri baseline nuke hit harder then maeloch spec nuke does, even though i know he got better equipment :(

I also need to debuff first which maeloch doesn't :p And that pic is from when I had mom5, I seriously doubt maeloch has mom5 :p
 

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willowywicca said:
I also need to debuff first which maeloch doesn't :p And that pic is from when I had mom5, I seriously doubt maeloch has mom5 :p

Well, I used to have MoM4 and everything in passives back in the day (plus stt ofc which i love to spam as everyone knows), but it's no fun solo'ing without MoC/purge.

Nah, I need to a debuff also to hit the crazy numbers, otherwise damage can really be pretty crappy (under 300 vs mids with ~50% resists). High rr mid casters generally outdamaging me by over double atm...nerf nuking orenthal the other night for 270 to get chain hit back for 658.

Ofc all my fault for rushing up a shitty template with no resist pierce (one I could mostly solo with buffed-up pet tho'!). Working on getting a proper 10% pierce template, and ofc pierce nerf inc with NF will lvl things out alot again between casters with ubah templates and ones with mediocre ones anyhow.

Mael, 50th ment.
 

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Foadon said:
done 515+211dmg with TW on jov xd just cant host any pix ;<

provoke i did 665+266 on minimez and the 639+293 on Zel :)

someone gib webspace so i can upload! :d

ahh haha, i remember zell was whinging like hell about that :)
 

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on a rr2 sb from a rr4 inf

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Give the ability to crit on critshots back :(

Anyhow I could show I guess some screenies of hitting for 1123 with my bow but it would only lead to 'nerf archers'-whines I guess :p
 

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AngeLujo said:
with what staff and what and huh? how the hell can a friar hit that big? :)

tartaros (5.6spd staff, there is the slowest staff for a friar unless there is a rare ml10 staff with high delay), 10% melee and style dmg, 100 dex in template :)

friars hit really hard on casters, but against plate (even with if plate is crush weak, my max dmg against an arms was 194 w/o crit (b4 toa)) u hit for really low dmg.

with some lucky crits a friar can 2 shot cloth casters and 3 shoot ns.
 

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Well did yesterday On Zorthan i think a BD 1621dmg with my fire wizard when we charged mpk... Can post The sreenshot later on afternoon since i play from deferent net cafe atm. Hehe u must see it imo, finally bolt is back :clap:
 

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Bigchief hit me today PA for 1089...do I win a cookie?

Gustav
 

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Lejemorder said:
tartaros (5.6spd staff, there is the slowest staff for a friar unless there is a rare ml10 staff with high delay), 10% melee and style dmg, 100 dex in template :)

friars hit really hard on casters, but against plate (even with if plate is crush weak, my max dmg against an arms was 194 w/o crit (b4 toa)) u hit for really low dmg.

with some lucky crits a friar can 2 shot cloth casters and 3 shoot ns.

Friars can also break their staff hitting a shield with their pathetic weaponskill

Slow weapon + decent styles ===> high damage on cloth casters

Low WS + not dualwielding ===> good luck getting past a shield

Friars have lower WS then most stealthers; due to their 1.5x spec-points divided over 4 lines and they dont gain any DEX during levelling while their staff is a 100% DEX based weapon.
 

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AngeLujo said:
with what staff and what and huh? how the hell can a friar hit that big? :)

was with tartaros yes, capped quickness too. i am not toa'd there, tartaros gift is 10% towards lvl 7 and i miss +4 staff....
 

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Puppet said:
Friars can also break their staff hitting a shield with their pathetic weaponskill

Slow weapon + decent styles ===> high damage on cloth casters

Low WS + not dualwielding ===> good luck getting past a shield

Friars have lower WS then most stealthers; due to their 1.5x spec-points divided over 4 lines and they dont gain any DEX during levelling while their staff is a 100% DEX based weapon.

dont tell me :)
had a friar me self, had just around 300 dex buff, 11xx WS, but i think me hit rate vs high defensive class was good.
vs sbs and ns did i won 1vs1 fun if i was lucky to evade cd or they missed pa and i loved the way ppl think u where a cloth caster and attacked u like u were 1 and then u swing u staff back for 300-400 dmg :)
 

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Lejemorder said:
dont tell me :)
had a friar me self, had just around 300 dex buff, 11xx WS, but i think me hit rate vs high defensive class was good.
vs sbs and ns did i won 1vs1 fun if i was lucky to evade cd or they missed pa and i loved the way ppl think u where a cloth caster and attacked u like u were 1 and then u swing u staff back for 300-400 dmg :)

on gorre i met 6-7 stealthers, all sb's or so, they didn't bother to pa me, i mean, a single caster can't be dangerous for so many people, well, they attacked me, i poped rr 5 ability and use static tempest 3, then i continued to kill them one by one, after some kiting and stuff i had them all down, was fun..
 

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Phusion said:
on gorre i met 6-7 stealthers, all sb's or so, they didn't bother to pa me, i mean, a single caster can't be dangerous for so many people, well, they attacked me, i poped rr 5 ability and use static tempest 3, then i continued to kill them one by one, after some kiting and stuff i had them all down, was fun..


most likely it was ppl who have never played one before and dont know anything about sorc RR5 ability :D
 

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xxManiacxx said:
most likely it was ppl who have never played one before and dont know anything about sorc RR5 ability :D

well unless friars suddenly turns to sorc i dunno :)

hehe phusion i stopped played my friar b4 toa, no grps and soloing wasnt that fun excal :(
 

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