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Well nothing he says is wrong. Its a national disgrace that we (England) aren`t at a major championship but had x3 teams in the semis of the Champions League.
 

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That french twat is just bitter becuase the french league is a sack of shit and all thier best players want to leave. Rather than improving that league he wants to shaft every one elses.
 

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Platini is president of UEFA and he is selling a product, the european championship. It's evident that england not in the Euro is bad for his product, but as a good sellman he can't admit it or else sponsors will pay less for publicity!
Instead of silly racist insults, start using your brains and blame your team to have made this Euro less attractive to football lovers....
 

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why would england not being in the euro's make it less attractive football? Imo england don't really play attractive football, just they rake in alot of sponsorship and profits when they're in it :)
 

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Yes but he's attacking England as a football team and then blames the foreigners for the Premier League, can't have it both ways!

He's just a French idiot who wants to slag off England because he's in a position to do so.
 

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Well wouldn't you be annoyed if someone slagged off your country's football in general?
 

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christ i never thought id see the day i agreed with a french man infact its left the taste of bile in my mouth

everything what hes said is true what his motivation is to come out with these comments is less clear is it hes bitter that the premiership is the most succesful league in the world? or he cares that our national game is suffering frankly theres no love lost between us and the french so id say the former.


our game is suffering terribly english players get benched to make way for foreign players and whats worse they are happy to sit there and earn 50k a week its a disgrace and until its stamped out england will never be a potent force in international football.
 

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christ i never thought id see the day i agreed with a french man infact its left the taste of bile in my mouth

everything what hes said is true what his motivation is to come out with these comments is less clear is it hes bitter that the premiership is the most succesful league in the world? or he cares that our national game is suffering frankly theres no love lost between us and the french so id say the former.


our game is suffering terribly english players get benched to make way for foreign players and whats worse they are happy to sit there and earn 50k a week its a disgrace and until its stamped out england will never be a potent force in international football.

I think you're way off the mark here.

I just think it's evasive to blame everything on the foreign players. People need to realise and accept that it was our lacklustre performances in the qualifying groups that caused us to loose out on Euro 2008. Blaming the foreign players is ridiculous. If our squad wasn't a bunch of overpaid prima donnas then perhaps we would have gone through. We just lack the quality and commitment to make it through at the moment, something hopefully Capello will sort out.

Also, the most of our starting 11 vs Croatia were permanent fixtures (and doubtless most of our other players) in their corresponding Premiership clubs, so I don't really see your point. If anything, playing against the foreign players should make our squad better.

We need to look at our own performance rather than point the finger at other people all the time.
 

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the problem is your squad isnt getting better because they are sitting on the bench, because the players playing against the top foreign players are foreign aswell :D i dont follow english football at all but thats what i got out of this thread
 

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Well English players and their agents out price the players because they are English, which 10-20 years ago was a bonus. The whole system needs changing from the top down, the directors of the FA are as much use as a chocolate fireguard.
 

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Maybe you two have a point but it was our bad performances that lost us a place in Euro 2008. Perhaps the influx of foreigners is an underlying cause aswell, but in the end of the day we didn't perform in our group, that is no one's fault but our own.
 

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tbh, and this is not ment disrespect..

we wont miss the english team on the euro2008
you haven't qualified therefor are not one of the 16 best countries of europe.

Also, why would we miss england? All countries have great teams, and all matches we are gonne see are (hopefully) very good.

yes england has a good team, but apparantly others have better.

If you really really think your team is so good, and will be missed at the euro 2008.. explain to me why they arent there then.

And why would we miss all the riots some of your contrymen allways put up to.

sorry, but im a bit tired of english people that keep whining about this.
(not just here btw)
 

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Well I am sure you would be annoyed if your team did not qualify for a major championship that you had a good chance of winning (on paper that is).

Oh, and please mention the "riots" in Euro 2004 and World Cup 2006 that every Englishman supposedly put up.
 

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Well I am sure you would be annoyed if your team did not qualify for a major championship that you had a good chance of winning (on paper that is).

On paper.. glad you putted that with it.

lucius said:
Oh, and please mention the "riots" in Euro 2004 and World Cup 2006 that every Englishman supposedly put up.


i said some of your countryman and not every Englishman.

edit i know i would get flamed by some of you, it's your country and you don't want it to look bad or people giving bad opinions about it. But it's the truth.
 

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I'm not flaming you, I just think it's a bit of a silly comment to make when all nations have a minority of people who are fanatical.

Holland also have a good chance on paper, but I don't fancy their chances vs a much more professional Italy and France.
 

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And why would we miss all the riots some of your contrymen allways put up to.

I'm sorry. What? We have probably the best behaved fans in Europe when travelling. Look at the amount of clubs around Europe outside the UK that have had serious crowd trouble, violence, racism and clubs being forced to play behind closed doors.

Platini and Blatter can kill football as a sport if they get their own way. Thankfully the world of football does not seem to take them that seriously. They both make very inflammatory comments that are very unnecessary from people in their position.
 

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I agree with most of what AH said, exept the hooligan bit. sure you said some, but in all fairness Holland and Germany and alot of the eastern European countries are just as bad.
altho I'll give holland the benifit that most of their hooligan problems seem localised to Clubfootball rather than internationals. but still!

so tbh that was abit of a "low blow"
I wont as such miss England "from a sporting perspective",
but then again...hehe I will miss them, or rather the freak show that is :p
 

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I'm sorry. What? We have probably the best behaved fans in Europe when travelling. Look at the amount of clubs around Europe outside the UK that have had serious crowd trouble, violence, racism and clubs being forced to play behind closed doors.

this isnt about club football tho is it ? A great example of that is Italy and holland, while they have thier fair share of hooligan problems on club basis, you never hear about Italian or dutch hoooligans when it comes to thier International games do you ? be it at home or abroad or at Championships. The same cannot be said for England.

Platini and Blatter can kill football as a sport if they get their own way.
if your gonna make such a statement at least have something to back it up, otherwise you just come off as a bitter fan lashing out at the easiest target avalible.
 

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I'm not bitter, I just feel that they have some outlandish ideas, that have no basis in reality. Remember Platini wanting to make football a non contact sport? Blatter pushing through his quota proposals despite being told byt the EU that they are illegal. Blatters comments over banning Taylor for life over the Eduardo tackle.

As for hooligans with international fans, in their home nations sitting in pubs and bars I am sure that all over Europe the problems are just as bad as they are in the UK. And club football does translate to international. It's the same fans that support their clubs that support their countries.

I don't think there will be trouble this tournament, and not because England aren't there. The way matches are policed is improving. Too often in Europe the police make things worse by rushing in battons first.
 

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I wouldn't go so far as to say we are the best behaved but certainly we have cleaned up our act. Our past is nothing to be proud of but it is nothing to dwell on either. Now everyone is just as bad as each other.
 

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As for hooligans with international fans, in their home nations sitting in pubs and bars I am sure that all over Europe the problems are just as bad as they are in the UK. And club football does translate to international. It's the same fans that support their clubs that support their countries.

I don't think there will be trouble this tournament, and not because England aren't there. The way matches are policed is improving. Too often in Europe the police make things worse by rushing in battons first.

Club football does NOT translate to international.
And police rushing ?? plice arent there unless its needed for.

you wanne stand in line1 at cops side and get a bottle rain over your head? and then say ah dont charge.. we'll rush things..
 

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Have you watched any of the European games involving trouble with English fans recently? Over zealous policing only against the travelling English fans. Notice that in club grounds in England this does not happen. You have a very outdated view of English football, like Lucius said do not dwell on the past.
 

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Man United fans in Rome springs to mind.

I wouldn't worry too much about him or her Ch3tan, obviously a very outdated image, as you put it.
 

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Platini and Blatter can kill football as a sport if they get their own way. Thankfully the world of football does not seem to take them that seriously. They both make very inflammatory comments that are very unnecessary from people in their position.

I agree 100% with this part. Both of them should just fuck right off.
 

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Yea, Platini should be going about his job and not slagging off other countries. I don't mind him having an opinion, but he is the president of UEFA, he shouldn't be making those kind of comments.
 

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Yea, Platini should be going about his job and not slagging off other countries. I don't mind him having an opinion, but he is the president of UEFA, he shouldn't be making those kind of comments.

Well, In what way did he say it? I mean, he could've said it to state once again that the euro2008 isnt incomplete withouth england and can be a success aswell.

We all know how sentances can be put by the press.

(ps, a bad post lucius? you can stereotype dutch people as much as u want, i dont care.. i wasn't stereotyping english people at all)
 

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