Golena
Fledgling Freddie
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- Feb 11, 2004
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Sorry ironheart i'm going to have to disagree. Raid leaders shouldn't have to hold the hand of everyone through the pre-steps.
If I want to know how to get a pre-step i'll go look on vos, get together some people and go do them. If I am unable to do this then I don't get the ability. Why should people who have done this HAVE to go walk everyone else through it. Some people enjoy doing that and do it because they want to. There's plenty of people able to lead pre-reqs, no reason one person should lead 10 of them by themselves! This isn't real life, it's a computer game and you only get out of it what you are prepared to put into it.. i.e. if you want to go afk, do /stick, then you'll get that amount out of it. If you want to put some effort in you'll get further. All sounds reasonable to me!
As has been pointed out to get all the way to ml8 you actually only need enough ml exp to get to ml3. That's about 2 hours camping the CB mob, you can even do this with a zerg of 50 peeps if lots of people need ml exp so it shouldn't be hard to get a group together if a rush is being organised. Kill it for 30-60 mins at the end of a raid and you will have full ml exp!
While it's always nice to start and finish with the same people that just isn't possible. Try finding 10 or 20 (if you want to do pre-reqs with people) dates when all 50-100 people can make it.. you'll be hitting ml10 sometime in 2007. Casual players might not make the full rush sure, but there's other raids round the corner so they can make 1-3 in one rush, then 5-7 in the next etc. ML Rushes arn't run for everyone, you claim they are only for the hardcore, if casual people tried to run a ml rush at a casual speed, I doubt you would see the hardcorers jumping up and down saying you can't leave a week there.. 7 days for pre-reqs that's way too long! It's an attempt to organise something for a lot of people, it's not an attempt to organise something for everyone because people have differing requirements and you can't please them all!
Personally I don't inherently disagree with pre-claiming as long as the raid is run well by the person claiming the item (if you don't like the rules don't join, or run a raid yourself, don't pre-claim and see how many turn up to yours instead). If the raid actually ends up being run by someone else or is badly run then they don't deserve to pre-claim, end of story. I guess time will tell how that saga works out.
If I want to know how to get a pre-step i'll go look on vos, get together some people and go do them. If I am unable to do this then I don't get the ability. Why should people who have done this HAVE to go walk everyone else through it. Some people enjoy doing that and do it because they want to. There's plenty of people able to lead pre-reqs, no reason one person should lead 10 of them by themselves! This isn't real life, it's a computer game and you only get out of it what you are prepared to put into it.. i.e. if you want to go afk, do /stick, then you'll get that amount out of it. If you want to put some effort in you'll get further. All sounds reasonable to me!
As has been pointed out to get all the way to ml8 you actually only need enough ml exp to get to ml3. That's about 2 hours camping the CB mob, you can even do this with a zerg of 50 peeps if lots of people need ml exp so it shouldn't be hard to get a group together if a rush is being organised. Kill it for 30-60 mins at the end of a raid and you will have full ml exp!
While it's always nice to start and finish with the same people that just isn't possible. Try finding 10 or 20 (if you want to do pre-reqs with people) dates when all 50-100 people can make it.. you'll be hitting ml10 sometime in 2007. Casual players might not make the full rush sure, but there's other raids round the corner so they can make 1-3 in one rush, then 5-7 in the next etc. ML Rushes arn't run for everyone, you claim they are only for the hardcore, if casual people tried to run a ml rush at a casual speed, I doubt you would see the hardcorers jumping up and down saying you can't leave a week there.. 7 days for pre-reqs that's way too long! It's an attempt to organise something for a lot of people, it's not an attempt to organise something for everyone because people have differing requirements and you can't please them all!
Personally I don't inherently disagree with pre-claiming as long as the raid is run well by the person claiming the item (if you don't like the rules don't join, or run a raid yourself, don't pre-claim and see how many turn up to yours instead). If the raid actually ends up being run by someone else or is badly run then they don't deserve to pre-claim, end of story. I guess time will tell how that saga works out.
