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Discussion in 'The Front Room' started by TdC, Jan 3, 2015.

  1. TdC

    TdC Trem's hunky sex love muffin Staff member Moderator

  2. Moriath

    Moriath I am a FH squatter

    Hehe from being that American guys friend. No charges been levelled he just been mentioned in a case.

    Wouldn't suprise me tho the girls from what I see were seventeen. Which is dodger in America but not in the uk.
     
  3. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    He's mates with a convicted paedo. Post-conviction meet-ups.

    If you were high-profile and someone you were friends with was convicted of underage sex would you continue to associate with them?

    Add to that the girl alleges that she was forced to have sex with him in the US. There's questions to be answered.

    Considering the US put in an extradition request for Gary McKinnon's harmless UFO-hack attempt I think there should be an impending prosecution and extradition request for rich-guy with paedo allegations against him.
     
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  4. old.Tohtori

    old.Tohtori FH is my second home

    Depends on what circumstances. Might be i woukdn't even as low-profile.

    Genuine kiddie predator, or someone just having sex with someone "underaged"? -> that arbitrary underage number ofcourse depending on country/own age/f*ckload of other random sh*t.
     
  5. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Them circumstances.
     
  6. old.Tohtori

    old.Tohtori FH is my second home

    Yeah meant that as a more generic answer to your question, case by case. Would also have to consider what level of friend and all that. For example if it was a good friend, would require a lot of talking to clear things before outright judging.

    I just don't think it's that simple to answer with a definitive yes/no.

    Besides the point a bit, but in any case; even if i was in contact with a person who was a full on kiddie fidder, it should never be a reason to suggest i was one, or that i have anything to do with this persons actions. Justice should work to judge those involved, not name/shame those that might haev farted in the general direction.

    There's way too much judging with 0 proof going on as it is with people.
     
  7. fettoken

    fettoken I am a FH squatter

    15 in Sweden - just sayin...
     
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  8. Embattle

    Embattle FH is my second home

    Nothing until proven in court.
     
  9. SilverHood

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  10. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Absolutely.

    So lets have an extradtion and a trial.
     
  11. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    Its a civil case, so there would be no extradition anyway. There's also a lower burden of proof. And he's got an immunity from prosecution anyway apparently.

    Its all a bit weird, and it does seem odd that the only two people named in the civil case happen to be two famous people seen in a single photograph with the woman making the claim. It seems a little convenient.
     
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  12. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    It's all a bit dodgy that he's got immunity from prosecution based on a previous criminal case that allegedly didn't involve him. But yeah - this will go nowhere...
     
  13. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    Well apparently the immunity was applied to pretty much any associate of Epstein's rather than Andrew specifically. But that alone is decidedly strange; smacks of prosecutors who didn't fancy the costs of a legal case against a billionaire so got him to "take one for the team" for his rich buddies.
     
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  14. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

  15. ECA

    ECA I am a FH squatter

    The BBC are pussies about the royal family for some reason.
     
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  16. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Pretty much all the media are. Suspicion of Rolf and the like was front page news.

    Maybe they're scared of parisian underpasses? ;)
     
  17. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    Civil case, so no. He can be subpoena'd to appear, but there's no way to force him.
     
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  18. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Wouldn't you expect allegations of sexual impropriety in a civil case be at least examined by whoever is responsible for criminal prosecutions?

    It's not like it's a trivial allegation...
     
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  19. old.Tohtori

    old.Tohtori FH is my second home

    Agreed, but also; I'd like for every person claiming someone is some kind of rapist/paedo, that then turns out isn't, to be jailed(or do the persons underwear laundry for life etc, bacon sarnie every day). I agree it's not a trivial allegation since you can ruin someones life with it, true or not.
     
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  20. Moriath

    Moriath I am a FH squatter

    Yes but they can. Still proceed even if the criminal side doesn't want to.
     
  21. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    I don't have any expectations tbh; the American justice system is beyond parody at this point.
     
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  22. TdC

    TdC Trem's hunky sex love muffin Staff member Moderator

    that's awesome. I didn't know one could just refuse a subpoena.
     
  23. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    Moving...
     
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  24. CorNokZ

    CorNokZ Currently a stay at home dad

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  25. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    Well, I does mean he might have issues travelling to the US, which I would imagine would be a bit of a problem for him.
     
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  26. Moriath

    Moriath I am a FH squatter

    I think it means it's hard to enforce across borders.
     
  27. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

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