One week to go, who are you planning on voting for?

[Deebs]

I agree that all the parties have hidden agenda and I was one of the first to vote Labour into power way back when I thought that the country needed a change.

What a big fucking mistake that turned out to be. I've never been more worse off than under the Labour government. Also, I want Labour out as I didn't vote for that cnut in power right now.

Personally I would love the notion that if a PM steps down then a General Election is called within a specified time and let the public choose who should lead the country.

 

[00dave]

i think hes shallow and will do what the tories always do fuck off the poor and look after the rich.

I'd rather that were the case than what labour have created. Look after the poor and the super rich but not give a shit about the inbetweens. At least the conservative way encourages you to get off your arse and earn some money, because the labour way of looking after the poor just encourages you to stay on your arse and hold your hand out.

 

[Chilly]

I agree that all the parties have hidden agenda and I was one of the first to vote Labour into power way back when I thought that the country needed a change.

What a big fucking mistake that turned out to be. I've never been more worse off than under the Labour government. Also, I want Labour out as I didn't vote for that cnut in power right now.

Personally I would love the notion that if a PM steps down then a General Election is called within a specified time and let the public choose who should lead the country.

This isnt the US, there is no legal or real link between your vote and whoever the house elects PM.

 

[chipper]

I'd rather that were the case than what labour have created. Look after the poor and the super rich but not give a shit about the inbetweens. At least the conservative way encourages you to get off your arse and earn some money, because the labour way of looking after the poor just encourages you to stay on your arse and hold your hand out.

i do agree with you it winds me up to know im working my bolloxs off day in day out to support some fucking chav who cant be assed to do an honest days work.

i dont like the nanny welfare state labour have created but make no mistake it would take years to make any noteworthy changes the tories and lib dems both know it, they are making promises they couldnt keep till perhaps the end of their first term or maybe a second.

the only thing i will give cameron credit for is having the guts to turn round and risk losing voters by telling them its their responsibility as well not just the governments. for that comment alone i actually entertained the notion of voting torie then my senses came back and i put it out of my mind.

im not a labour fan boy some of there stuff i genuinely dont like but i like a lot less of the tories and lib dems manifesto's its the lesser of evils for me.

politics is like religion you will never convince people to your way of thinking

 

[Athan]

Personally I would love the notion that if a PM steps down then a General Election is called within a specified time and let the public choose who should lead the country.

Beware unintended consequences. Do you really think a party would oust a leader, even if convinced the incumbent needed to go, if they knew it would mean having to call a General Election within, say, 6 months, when they know they're in no state to win it ?

No, they'd put up with the bugger until the next election was close enough for it to make no difference, and damn the consequences of any internal strife.

(I note that whilst technically/legally we don't vote for PMs in the UK... in essence that's what many people will be doing.)

 

[nath]

We've all been smoking big, fat Labour cock for the last 13 years and are fed up with the fucking taste !

My point was that the shock at someone happily continuing to suck labour cock while other people claiming that Cameron's smeg is much tastier. I've no problem people voting tories, I think it's amusing that someone could possibly claim superiority for it.

because labour are shite and are now clearly the worst party, so tell us if you support them what have you been smoking?

I'm not voting them, I disagree with lots of what they've done and I think Gordon Brown is a fuckwit. I'm voting Lib Dem and I don't claim they're amazing or the saviour of the universe, but as I said I do find it tremendously amusing people claiming superiority for voting tories over labour. It really is a case of a giant douche vs a shit sandwich, and you're saying your shit sandwich is vastly superior to the giant douch.

 

[Scouse]

We've all been smoking big, fat Labour cock for the last 13 years and are fed up with the fucking taste !

Actually, I think we've been suckling on thin, jaundiced, cheesy Labour floppy cock

 

[Scouse]

politics is like religion you will never convince people to your way of thinking

True. You have to create the conditions under which people will come to the decision to act in the right way under their own steam.

The only thing we can do is modify the one thing that achieves this - capitalism. However, we never vote on this. There are more than 2 ways to run a global financial system, and we're not even looking at them.


Actually, I may not vote lib dem after all. I'm being drawn in by this pathetic, nonsense, won't ever make a fucking difference election - which is simply a smokescreen. We need genuine change. We won't get it. Spoiled paper again for me.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Agree with nath.

Strangely.

 

[nath]

Agree with nath.

Strangely.

Good lord, I feel dirty.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Gordon Brown is Jupitus. Ever noticed how they're never on these forums at the same time?

Busted.

 

[Jupitus]

Gordon Brown is Jupitus. Ever noticed how they're never on these forums at the same time?

Busted.

Jesus fucking christ, Roo, you are so close to being perma-banned right now.......







Brown's a ****, you could well be right

 

[Deebs]

Jesus fucking christ, Roo, you are so close to being perma-banned right now.......







Brown's a ****, you could well be right

Is Brown a short arsed cnut?

 

[Jupitus]

Is Brown a short arsed cnut?

Rather a short arsed **** than a lanky pelican-nosed cuntwank

 

[Deebs]

hehe

 

[old.user4556]

cuntwank is allowed?!

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

cuntwank is allowed?!

As a male, technically its not wanking. Its more like the holy grail.

 

[mr.Blacky]

Can't vote. But libdem makes makes more sense. Sorry too much crap pre-labour and now too much crap post-tory.

Oh can't vote caus I was never registered in the UK, couldn't vote in the Netherlands caus not Dutch (I am Dutch/English with a UK passport) but for some reason I can vote in Ireland for the parlement... and I aint Irish!

 

[DocWolfe]

I don't understand why anyone would vote for Lib Dem's their policies are shocking. Everyone's just been wooed by Clegg's bullshit.

I can guarantee the majority of people who are going to vote for them haven't read their manifesto at all.

 

[Kryten]

Going Tory again, mostly because the tory candidates for here and the next constituency are bloody good.

 

[Embattle]

I don't understand why anyone would vote for Lib Dem's their policies are shocking. Everyone's just been wooed by Clegg's bullshit.

I can guarantee the majority of people who are going to vote for them haven't read their manifesto at all.

I put money on it that it don't really matter which one of the three you vote for at the present time.

 

[Furr]

This guy generally gets it right, US statistician who's latest claim to fame was getting the US election practically dead on except for one state.

FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: UK Seats Projection: Tories 299, Labour 199, LibDems 120

Hung Parliament.... We'll I guess in some ways this should be a positive, if just the Tories had to make the cuts then they would get booted out for another 15 years, sharing the blame with the liberals may be the only way forward.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

I don't understand why anyone would vote for Lib Dem's their policies are shocking. Everyone's just been wooed by Clegg's bullshit.

I can guarantee the majority of people who are going to vote for them haven't read their manifesto at all.

Let me guess... Tory? Heard so many tories with that dismissive response, it's hilarious. They can't back themselves so they have to rely on utterly ludicrous claims like people are only voting LibDem because of a TV debate. Utter farce and nonsense, you should open your eyes a bit more.

 

[Embattle]

A considerable number people are voting to remove the current government, it doesn't mean they always support what they are voting in....I like to think this election is carrying some of the traits of when London voted Boris in as mayor.

 

[ECA]

This guy generally gets it right, US statistician who's latest claim to fame was getting the US election practically dead on except for one state.

FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: UK Seats Projection: Tories 299, Labour 199, LibDems 120

Hung Parliament.... We'll I guess in some ways this should be a positive, if just the Tories had to make the cuts then they would get booted out for another 15 years, sharing the blame with the liberals may be the only way forward.

Heh I didn't think anyone else would have heard of 538 - the founder is a poker player/baseball stat analyst.

 

[Zenith.UK]

There is one fundamental flaw in that 538 method.
It applies regional bias based on historical data.
Regional isn't detailed enough. It has to be down to individual constituencies, and even then historical data isn't a good indicator. It might work like that for the US elections but the UK elections are more susceptible to wildcard events (gaffes, individual personalities, single issue independents etc).

 

[ECA]

There is one fundamental flaw in that 538 method.
It applies regional bias based on historical data.
Regional isn't detailed enough. It has to be down to individual constituencies, and even then historical data isn't a good indicator. It might work like that for the US elections but the UK elections are more susceptible to wildcard events (gaffes, individual personalities, single issue independents etc).

I know Nate from pre-538 when he posted on the same poker forum as me so I'm biased quite a bit

The wildcard events you mention all feature heavily in american politics, as do personalities and single issue people.

You can point to Ralph Nader affecting the presidential race for Gore, Ross Perot in '96 and there is a huge resurgence of single issue politics right now with the "Tea Party" taking over Republican primaries.

There's a methodology breakdown here that just got posted.

FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Nerdfight: UK Election Model Methodology

 

[Raven]

Let me guess... Tory? Heard so many tories with that dismissive response, it's hilarious. They can't back themselves so they have to rely on utterly ludicrous claims like people are only voting LibDem because of a TV debate. Utter farce and nonsense, you should open your eyes a bit more.

So...there is no correlation between Lib-Dems popularity and the recent TV debates..?

"k"

 

[Wazzerphuk]

You think that's the SOLE reason? Really?

 

[Raven]

No but its got the Xfactor generation to vote for them solely by TV performances. I bet hardy any of the new Lib Dem Voters have actually read their manifesto or understood any of their proposals.