oh well

Belisar

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I gotta give it to you Araudry you do make me laugh.

On a post about the loss of a relic your first comment is to boast about how many kills you got. Nothing to do with the relic or the actual event itself but of course you were thinking of the realm weren't you when you made that post.

Then you moan about numbers when alb has more than either mid or hib - oh dear that's right they do not want to go RvR do they.

Then you say it was a chanter (solo ?) camped behind a wall and pbae'ing. Wow makes such a difference that one and ofc (even if this happened) there is no way to counter it.

Your comments do not seem to be those of someone who has gained such a high level of rps. Maybe the account was recently ebay'd but for someone who should have a wealth of knowledge and humility you really are a joke (but as you say, I am the noob not you, so what do I know).

I would like to quote a comment from an alb (excal) on a recent RvR post here on Freddies - leave and take your toys with you.

Hhmm I need more practise at this abuse and flame thing - not sure I am good enough yet - is there anyone else I can pick on for a while :eek6:
 

Araudry

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VidX said:
Yip, a chanter and a PS mincer with /effects none can't go up and stun them?

You're just making yourself look even more stupid now.
yes he has aoe insta stun with aoe insta mezz and he can spam it on 1 sec reuse timer u didnt know that?

VidX said:
For someone who is fond of calling others noobs, you aren't really that good at the game yourself it seems, go rtfm.
nop, i m a noob u didnt know that also?

Belisar said:
I gotta give it to you Araudry you do make me laugh.

On a post about the loss of a relic your first comment is to boast about how many kills you got. Nothing to do with the relic or the actual event itself but of course you were thinking of the realm weren't you when you made that post.

Then you moan about numbers when alb has more than either mid or hib - oh dear that's right they do not want to go RvR do they.

Then you say it was a chanter (solo ?) camped behind a wall and pbae'ing. Wow makes such a difference that one and ofc (even if this happened) there is no way to counter it.

Your comments do not seem to be those of someone who has gained such a high level of rps. Maybe the account was recently ebay'd but for someone who should have a wealth of knowledge and humility you really are a joke (but as you say, I am the noob not you, so what do I know).

I would like to quote a comment from an alb (excal) on a recent RvR post here on Freddies - leave and take your toys with you.

Hhmm I need more practise at this abuse and flame thing - not sure I am good enough yet - is there anyone else I can pick on for a while :eek6:
maybe i m a ebayed noob but even if u ebayed ur chars none would notice it anyways so who cares...noob.. :>
about relic i dont need str relic so thats how i care of the RR that happened :eek:
 

Ketinna

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Araudry said:
maybe i m a ebayed noob but even if u ebayed ur chars none would notice it anyways so who cares...noob.. :>
about relic i dont need str relic so thats how i care of the RR that happened :eek:

care enough to brag about youre kills twice :worthy: :worthy:
 

Ethild

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Araudry, all you have done in this thread is make yourself look about 12 years old with your posts.

It's kinda in your favour to stop now.
 

Vermillon

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thaaadi said:
lol 1 animist thanks for 20k+ rps anyway

After 2.5 years i belive is ok you can have some fun my litle n00b.

Hey did you ever saw how emain looked like before NF? <rolling on the floor> :kissit:
 

Dervis

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it is really amazing.

no hibbs in frontier, labs bitch.
lot of hibs in frontier labs bitch.
should we turn up in bite-size chunks? or maybe you should write to mythic to "award" you some RPs for free every week - will 100k RPs be enough? oh yeah - and at least 1000 DBs per week. That should keep you guys happy.

most over-powered, over-populated realm and you are crying foul because hibbies were well organised to get your relic?

i'm sorry that we are bucking the 1.70 trend, it might have something to do with the actual community on hib/pryd

such bad losers tbh.
 

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Dervis said:
it is really amazing.

no hibbs in frontier, labs bitch.
lot of hibs in frontier labs bitch.
should we turn up in bite-size chunks? or maybe you should write to mythic to "award" you some RPs for free every week - will 100k RPs be enough? oh yeah - and at least 1000 DBs per week. That should keep you guys happy.

most over-powered, over-populated realm and you are crying foul because hibbies were well organised to get your relic?

i'm sorry that we are bucking the 1.70 trend, it might have something to do with the actual community on hib/pryd

such bad losers tbh.

Out of interest. What is your reasons for saying albs are the most overpowered realm? I got many reasons that both hib and mid more powerful then alb. However i would agree alb has some powerful classes, they aint the most overpowered realm by far.
 

Aran Thule

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Corran said:
Out of interest. What is your reasons for saying albs are the most overpowered realm? I got many reasons that both hib and mid more powerful then alb. However i would agree alb has some powerful classes, they aint the most overpowered realm by far.

Hmm well i would think the main thing about NF is range given a lot of it is based on keep takes.

in these situations the scout is far superior to the ranger/hunter due to them being unable to enter melee, and scouts having a way (shield) to prevent themselves from being beaten in archer stand offs.

The sorc has greater range on his CC then the other realms, and also gets one of the best defencive skills at RR5.

They also have a third stealther class with CC, which after 3 years i have yet to see any justification for.

Thier tanks get better armour then the other realms.

Add to this that Albion in nearly all servers outnumbers the other realms (i blame the name of the game mostly)

But as you say all the realms have classes which seem overpowered to the other realms, but not much we can really do about it apart from carrying on.
 

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Aran Thule said:
The sorc has greater range on his CC then the other realms, and also gets one of the best defencive skills at RR5.

They also have a third stealther class with CC, which after 3 years i have yet to see any justification for.

1. Sorting spells by range you will get Amnesia on first place followed up by nerasight. Afaik hib got an instant-ae version of amnesia, didn't they?

2. Sorc got no instant cc-spells at all, so a sorc always need to stop, start a cast and finish it. It may work fine on plain ground, but pls sho me there are plain grounds where you may take full advantage of your range and are not outranged by nearsight or amnesia? In all other situations, especialy inside structures instant cc >> all.

3. Count a Mincer as cc class in open battles/keep sieges? ^^ :O

4. Interrupt, ae-desease without a immunity timer and basline stun on a caster for teh win. Reaver banelords may fix it on alb side, but its our own fault as reavers in the past did not get groups due to leak of determination and today they dont get groups due to leak of decent RR.

5. Alb is missing gtae in a really common spell-line.

6. I for myself still looking for the alb zerg. Could only find it in fh-threads so far. During my rvr time we always faced equal numbers of enemies or have been outnumbered.

and and and ....

Alb is under permanent pressure of Hib and Mid since NF started. Many people left rvr again ...
 

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Brolundar said:
Alb is under permanent pressure of Hib and Mid since NF started. Many people left rvr again ...

yep found scout to be good fun as i dont get zerged constantly, jaja qq etc,
saying albs zerg more than others is like saying samantha fox is hot, she may have been years ago, but sure as hell not any longer....
 

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Brolundar said:
1. Sorting spells by range you will get Amnesia on first place followed up by nerasight. Afaik hib got an instant-ae version of amnesia, didn't they?

Yes, Hibernia has AE insta amnesia.. Amnesia is rather useless in keepfights; it only cancels the current spell; it doesnt interrupt or such.

2. Sorc got no instant cc-spells at all, so a sorc always need to stop, start a cast and finish it. It may work fine on plain ground, but pls sho me there are plain grounds where you may take full advantage of your range and are not outranged by nearsight or amnesia? In all other situations, especialy inside structures instant cc >> all.


Sorcs got access to Ichor of the Deep; which is instant-CC. Sorcs also got best cast-time, radius and range on their AE-mezz.

3. Count a Mincer as cc class in open battles/keep sieges? ^^ :O

It still has CC ofcourse. Thats like saying a hero is no longer a tank in certain cases :p

4. Interrupt, ae-desease without a immunity timer and basline stun on a caster for teh win. Reaver banelords may fix it on alb side, but its our own fault as reavers in the past did not get groups due to leak of determination and today they dont get groups due to leak of decent RR.

Clerics got baseline stun; with a bit of assist and such u can benefit from that. Reavers are pretty unique with the PBAE interruption; Hibernia nor Midgard dont have that stuff.

5. Alb is missing gtae in a really common spell-line.

Only need first tier of GTAE to make it interrupt; so each wizzie should have that; iirc. the other sub-lines dont give anything useful ? Void eldritches arent exactly common either AND by far most eldritches dont have GTAE (due to what another sub-spec offers)
 

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Puppet said:
Yes, Hibernia has AE insta amnesia.. Amnesia is rather useless in keepfights; it only cancels the current spell; it doesnt interrupt or such.




Sorcs got access to Ichor of the Deep; which is instant-CC. Sorcs also got best cast-time, radius and range on their AE-mezz.



It still has CC ofcourse. Thats like saying a hero is no longer a tank in certain cases :p



Clerics got baseline stun; with a bit of assist and such u can benefit from that. Reavers are pretty unique with the PBAE interruption; Hibernia nor Midgard dont have that stuff.



Only need first tier of GTAE to make it interrupt; so each wizzie should have that; iirc. the other sub-lines dont give anything useful ? Void eldritches arent exactly common either AND by far most eldritches dont have GTAE (due to what another sub-spec offers)

What you will never understand is that you CANT fit those things in an albion group because all goods are spread out on many clasees/specs, while the other realms get em in few classess/specs.

For example what you will trade for a reaver in group, what you will tade for a mincer in group (not have old sos anymore), what will you trade for a Friar in group(red resists). And dont forget that we got only 2 healing capable players(clerics) if you dont use a friar.
But what ever you do trade for one of those classes, the albion group loses much of its dmg dealing power and compared to the other realms groups it will suck, and will only delay it death in 1fg vs 1fg situation.

And dont count Ichor as insta CC because you need rpts to get it while others get insta CC by class/spec, is not the same thing as you try to put it.
 

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Albs perhaps would be a lot better off if they played more of the classes available to them, rather than just scouts, mincers, sorcs and cabbies.
 

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Puppet said:
Sorcs got access to Ichor of the Deep; which is instant-CC. Sorcs also got best cast-time, radius and range on their AE-mezz.

Ichor of the Deep

Spirit-based root plus direct damage spell. 1875 range with 500 radius. Damage and duration as listed. Two second non-interruptible cast time.

and if im right you need to stand still

melee stun,base line casting stun,insta mez ,insta stun,casting mez > Ichor
 

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Puppet said:
Yes, Hibernia has AE insta amnesia.. Amnesia is rather useless in keepfights; it only cancels the current spell; it doesnt interrupt or such.

It does not cancel a spell, it removes your current target and los check will fail -> cast will not be completed.

Rather useless in Keeps fights? Like uber ranged sorc cc in comparisation to instant?



Puppet said:
Sorcs got access to Ichor of the Deep; which is instant-CC. Sorcs also got best cast-time, radius and range on their AE-mezz.

Not all sorcs got RR10, that means either Ichor or Capped castspeed/damage

Puppet said:
It still has CC of course. Thats like saying a hero is no longer a tank in certain cases :p

How often a mincer will die while he tries to use his ae-mezz?

Puppet said:
Clerics got baseline stun; with a bit of assist and such u can benefit from that. Reavers are pretty unique with the PBAE interruption; Hibernia nor Midgard dont have that stuff.

Cleric basline stun? My own opinion, due to low smite spec iget high mana costs, lots of resists. As I am Cleric, a caster may complete 2 casts wile i am trying to complete my spell. Time I not provide bcs i have to heal rezz rebuff ....
Midgard got Banelords too, in example BD may become a banelord.
And there are shamans pbae-desease, ae-desease, ae-root, last two may be chained to interrupt, desease has no immunity timer.


Puppet said:
Only need first tier of GTAE to make it interrupt; so each wizzie should have that; iirc. the other sub-lines dont give anything useful ? Void eldritches arent exactly common either AND by far most eldritches dont have GTAE (due to what another sub-spec offers)

I geuss the list of resist mesages will appear in the status window will be very long.

Sure each looks from his side of the river...

At least:
Pre NF Albion was able to competite due to nice RA, available for a decent ammount of realm skill points.
This advantage is gone now.
 

Belisar

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Brolundar said:
and and and ....

Alb is under permanent pressure of Hib and Mid since NF started. Many people left rvr again ...

Not quite sure what you meant by this. Does it mean that because a lot of fights are happening in the Alb frontiers that many albs are not going RvR ? Would they come back if the fights tookplace in emain or odins ?

Hibs were under a lot of pressure pre-NF when the fights were mainly in emain and I suspect the hib keeps were taken far more than any other realms. I am sure there were prolly a few moans from hibbies about that but we only really stopped making the long haul to emain when it got very zergy (no finger pointing here - we were prolly all as bad as each other).

The way NF works it seems to me that someone is always going to be under pressure but at least if the fights are in your back yard there is less running to do :cheers:
 

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