Off-topic Mafia #9 Game Thread

[Golena]

Coming out in support of your mafia mate is not a smart move morph, and don't think you can rely on the i can't be his mate when we find him guilty because i would never have come out to support him reverse pshycology shit when ice reveals his true identity.

He would only be coming out in support of me if I was guilty, which i'm not. So your argument falls fairly flat on it's face right there..

Better luck next time.

 

[old.Tohtori]

He would only be coming out in support of me if I was guilty, which i'm not. So your argument falls fairly flat on it's face right there..

Better luck next time.

But, there's the little hing that it's your word on not being guilty, so the argument doesn't actually fall as such

I'm not gonna help anyone at the moment and going to do the only logical thing with such a stalemate:

unvote

 

[Golena]

If Toht and Morphius are mafia, then voting either or them off loses the town the game, since Rubric will assume that they must be partnering me and an innocent vote tommorow on an innocent is game over. That means if you believe that partnership is correct then voting either of them off today is a very bad move from a townies perspective.

Mod Can I vote on myself?

 

[Golena]

Actually noticed that if we get it right today, we can afford to be wrong tommorow.

That means my previous argument was incorrect.

As such, why not. Lets hope he's mafia or we're doomed.

Vote Morphius

 

[Olgaline]

Vote Count
Day 2

Kirennia - 1 - (Morphius)
Golena - 2 - (Rubric, Old.Tohtori)
Morphius - 2 - (Levin, Kirennia)
Old.Tohtori - 1 - (Olgaline)

Not Voted: 1 (Golena)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

hmm this is almost commical,
so the vote tally atm is really fucking with my conclusion becuase it fully supports all my Theoretical teamups.

wich are

- Levin & Kirennia
- Toht & Rubric
- Morphius & Golena

Guess that set my up with a theoretical 1 in 3 shot

Oh and I dont exactly think it's fair to say I've been "quiet" Levin, quieter maybe sure, but with both a new job, a tooth problem and The European championship going, and the simple fact that I'm split tree ways trying to find the most logical connection means I'm not posting as much as I'm doing alot of reading the thread atm. activity afterall, isnt nessersarily post frequency alone

 

[Golena]

- Levin & Kirennia
- Toht & Rubric
- Morphius & Golena

That's an interesting 3 partnerships.

I still can't see why people think me and Morph are likely to be a partnership. Me or morph sure, but together?
On day 1 morph left me hanging with 4 votes several times, in fact in the first instance he set me up with 4. Now I know the "vote for your mafia teammate" theories are running rife this game but if you were mafia would you risk it on day 1? I guess many of you would it seems.
I've also just put him on 3 votes leaving him out to dry. With everyone touting a Morph/Golena partnership, how long do you think i'm going to last tommorow if he's voted off and guilty?

I guess we've reached the place where the conspiracy theories out weigh the actual evidence. Fair enough I suppose.


Toht/Rubric and Levin/Kirrenia? Got any reasons you can share at the moment why your putting them together? I'm not seeing where these partnerships came from myself. I guess it surprises me because I had them paired differently in my head. There's also the worry that you seem slightly too innocent at the moment and I can't place you with anyone. If your going down the conspiracy theory route, the fact I can't match you with anyone is suspicious in itself, although I feel if you are mafia we're going to have to get you by removing the other partnerships left on the last day.

 

[Olgaline]

hehe, I'll explain sometime tomorrow, for now I need bed,
about you and morph tho, your looking at it the wrong way, look at it this way
if I concider the following to be my most likely setups (Levin & Kirennia) (Toht & Rubric)
and if you entertain that you dont change tho prefixes, wich only combo is then left ?
get it ?

 

[Iceforge]

Vote Count
Day 2

Rubric - 1 - (Morphius)
Golena - 1 - (Rubric)
Morphius - 3 - (Levin, Golena, Kirennia)
Old.Tohtori - 1 - (Olgaline)

Not Voted: 1 (Old.Tohtori)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch


Q:

Mod Can I vote on myself?

A: Yes

 

[Golena]

about you and morph tho, your looking at it the wrong way, look at it this way
if I concider the following to be my most likely setups (Levin & Kirennia) (Toht & Rubric)
and if you entertain that you dont change tho prefixes, wich only combo is then left ?
get it ?

I guess I don't agree with the logic, but I do see how you arrived there so fair enough.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Seems i would have the chance to vote morphius off, could someone give me reasons to do so?

 

[Levin]

Seems i would have the chance to vote morphius off, could someone give me reasons to do so?

Assuming we are all townies, three of us think he's guilty. If you nail him with a 4th vote and he turns out innocent, at least us three can't hold it against you, since we'd all be equally mistaken.

I don't know if there's anyone can say at this point that can't be rebutted in one way or another. You're just going to have to go with your own feeling. If you think there's a fair chance he's guilty, vote for him and be done with it. If you don't - make a an argument for someone else to be voted upon.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Assuming we are all townies, three of us think he's guilty. If you nail him with a 4th vote and he turns out innocent, at least us three can't hold it against you, since we'd all be equally mistaken.

I don't know if there's anyone can say at this point that can't be rebutted in one way or another. You're just going to have to go with your own feeling. If you think there's a fair chance he's guilty, vote for him and be done with it. If you don't - make a an argument for someone else to be voted upon.

I feel there's a fair chance any of you are mafia

 

[old.Tohtori]

If you all three are townies, that would mean rubric and olga are the only other mafia possibilities(if morp is mafia).

So olga+morp or rubric+morp are the only combos seen in that.

Olga votes for me, which makes no impact at all and morp votes for rubric, his own mafia buddy for a clever turnabout?

But if morp is innocent, then the mafia is most likely in you three voting already.

 

[Levin]

i find it pretty weird how so many people are willing to jump on levin for pointing out a pretty damn good argument, morphius putting the 4th vote, and then saying he was thinking of unvoting as to give the person a chance to save themselves. it just doesnt make sense. the difference between levin thinking of unvoting and morphius saying he thought he would unvote is that when morphius voted he knew he was making it 4. split personality or what? of course there is always the chance that he could have missed that there was 4 votes.

Further reasoning towards Morphius, regarding the incident on day one. These are the words of our dead cop, who was murdered by the mafia. I think that lends his words a little more credibility. Sure he was wrong, like the rest of us, about Ch3tan. That doesn't have to mean he was wrong about Morphius here. He followed these comments with voting Golena, but it most certiainly must have gotten Morphius's attention. Was Fl3a nightkilled because of this statement?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Further reasoning towards Morphius, regarding the incident on day one. These are the words of our dead cop, who was murdered by the mafia. I think that lends his words a little more credibility.

Might disagree but, it doesn't. Cop role gives no credibility, especially on day one as there's no info.

After one night, a bit more.

Not to mention the logic there was flimsy at best.

 

[Levin]

Might disagree but, it doesn't. Cop role gives no credibility, especially on day one as there's no info.

After one night, a bit more.

Not to mention the logic there was flimsy at best.

Credibility didn't come from him being cop, but that he was nightkilled. Sorry, I should have been more clear what I meant. My point is that, flimsy as it may have been, it's POSSIBLE that mafia noted it, and killed Fl3a for it. Then again.. they should probably rather have killed me then since I was the one starting that theory.

Either way, I was reading back through the thread and thought that post was worth quoting. If you think it's worthless, then disregard it.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Nothing really worthless, just don't want to quickhand my vote

 

[Olgaline]

I think morph and golena are for me the least likely mafia, so I'm simply not going to vote for them, instead of concerning my self with how that makes me look. Atm I belive That Levin and Toht are The most likely candidates, just not together. So instead of going with the flow "as I've tended to do" I'm this time going to follow my own hunch.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Er....how does that actually work?

Levin and me are mafia but one isn't?

 

[Olgaline]

At the momment I'm keeping my vote for Toht mostly due to not being given any reason to unvote, if I see anything that points more strongly towards someone els, I'll then concider that option, atm I'm very much concidering Levin as a posibility.

 

[Olgaline]

Er....how does that actually work?

Levin and me are mafia but one isn't?

no you are each by your selves the most like candidates.
How ever I see nothing to suggest your a team either, so what I'm looking for atm is posible partners for each of you. and if i fail to do that, then I'll have to look at you individually. This doesnt mean that I automaticly decide that the remaining are innocent, if something comes up that to me suggest that they are guilty well then I'll focus on them, atm tho my focus is on you and Levin simple as that

 

[Levin]

Olgaline, it's fine to express who you think is guilty and such, but I wouldn't expect others to follow your vote unless you can come up with some kind of reason? Do you think I am mafia because I am now voting on Morphius?

Look at Morphius's posts.. apart from the mistake that I believe he did on day one, that is. He hasn't posted much at all, and when he does, it's usually something non committal such as "hmm this is a puzzle, must think more". That waves a mafia-trying-to-stay-out-of-people's-sights flag to me.

And now Olgaline is reacting in an interesting way. He accuses both Tohtori and me of being mafia but maybe not together. Well, sadly I think my post here will be fuel on his fire, but it needs to be said if only to defend myself; Olgaline has no theory that I can see, and is going on a "hunch". Fine, I do that a lot too. But I'm usually wrong.

For the record, I'm beginning to wonder if Morphius/Olgaline isn't a possible combo. Oh and guys, if we could just nail one mafia today, I think our chances of finding the second one will be great tomorrow. If I survive today and tonight, I will tell you why (though most might already have thought of it as well). Can't say now or people might change their behaviour to nullify my "idea".

 

[old.Tohtori]

If I survive today and tonight, I will tell you why (though most might already have thought of it as well). Can't say now or people might change their behaviour to nullify my "idea".

You see, it's things like this that make you look really really naughty, and there's been lots

 

[Levin]

You see, it's things like this that make you look really really naughty, and there's been lots

Why is that? You'd have said that even if I had actually told you my idea, hadn't you? Then you'd probably have said "You outed your own idea, to the mafia's gain". I realize speaking ones' mind in this game is probably a bad thing. But if i die, at least people can read it afterwards without the "he's mafia" spectacles on. So here goes then, I'll speak my mind some more.

My idea was that if we catch a mafia today, we might be able to read back on todays posts and see who the dead mafia member had NOT mentioned as a combo or suspect. This is because at this rate a lot of people (if not all?) have listed combos and possible suspects, and maybe just maybe the mafia would figure it safe enough not to not mention his buddy. Hardly revolutionary I guess, and maybe not as 'clever' as I thought as it hardly covers everyone anyway. It would also take a lot of reading back of course but... there you have it

Do as you please guys. I've cast my vote on Morphius and I'm sticking by it. I've caught a cold and got a fever atm so im going to bed early.

 

[Levin]

would figure it safe enough not to not mention his buddy.

Geh, silly no edit rule. I meant "safe enough to not mention his buddy".

 

[old.Tohtori]

Why is that? You'd have said that even if I had actually told you my idea, hadn't you? Then you'd probably have said "You outed your own idea, to the mafia's gain". I realize speaking ones' mind in this game is probably a bad thing. But if i die, at least people can read it afterwards without the "he's mafia" spectacles on. So here goes then, I'll speak my mind some more.

Don't assume, it's rude and doesn't suit you

Your idea is good anyway, as we can now take into consideration that the votecount present now, is quite an indicator.

That's where i'm stuck at the moment.

 

[Levin]

Don't assume, it's rude and doesn't suit you

I didn't assume to be rude though, I assumed because it happened last game, I think? Of course.. maybe the guy there who did it was guilty. I just wanted to share my idea with as little flak aimed my way as possible. I failed, hehe. In any case I did not mean to be rude.. sorry about that and i blame the fever!

And NOW.. i have an appointment with bed. Thanks for quick feedback Toht.

 

[Rubric]

Well as i think Golena & Morph are the most likely combo, I'm almost 100% on Golena and probably 80 or 90 on Morph i have the opportunity to cast a lynching vote on someone i believe is guilty,

However i am nervous to cast this vote in case he is innocent and Golena will go all hangman on me tomorrow and win the game.

 

[Rubric]

Well as i think Golena & Morph are the most likely combo, I'm almost 100% on Golena and probably 80 or 90 on Morph i have the opportunity to cast a lynching vote on someone i believe is guilty,

However i am nervous to cast this vote in case he is innocent and Golena will go all hangman on me tomorrow and win the game.

Although if someone else casts the vote after i have said that then Gol could still use it against me.

VOTE: Morphius

Damned if i do, damned if i don't.

Please, please, please be Mafia.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Interested to see the result, i'm not that sure about Morph being mafia, but i can't deny it either.

As in, i think some others are more prone towards mafia in my books.