Off-topic Mafia #7 Game Thread

[old.Tohtori]

Again i'm gonna ask you ECA, to post your arguments without claiming i'm this, or that i'm that, or that i should get lynched.

Then i'll discuss your points.

But you've done nothing but create points that accuse me, while i haven't returned the favor.

If you can do this, we can discuss your points.

Calling my points retarded is a new low.

I tried to answer you and even say that you have a point, but that didn't change your ways.

So, summarize: Post your points in a way that you don't want me lynched, as you do on all others, and we can discuss it.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I suppose it's harder to measure the value of the deception though. Since everyone is aware that "they could have done this to get the INNOCENT stamp", its value decreases since eyes would be on them anyway. Then again, since everyone knows THAT... and it goes on in circles.

Only one thing is clear in it, fl3a ruined the possible trap.

It's a fact.

Be it a mistake or deliberate, is up to the individual.

 

[old.Tohtori]

And if i agreed with you ECA, i would agree on your logic. But i have my own logistics, and they contradict yours.

What seems msot interesting is that your logic absolves you completely.

 

[Will]

Only one thing is clear in it, fl3a ruined the possible trap.

It's a fact.

Be it a mistake or deliberate, is up to the individual.

It was hardly the most cunning trap in the world, was it?

 

[old.Tohtori]

It was hardly the most cunning trap in the world, was it?

It doesn't have to be. In the heat, mistakes happen, and it was one way to do it.

If fl3a was a townie(speculating here completely), why would he ruin it, even with a small % that it would work?

If he was mafia, it would be good to say it.

Again. Speculation.

reason why i'm not talking ECAs points, is simple, he keeps forcing my hanging. I have to use any spare time i had at work to defend myself.

 

[ECA]

Bleh I've made my point 10x already, I recommend anyone who isnt convinced reread the last 2 pages and see who has replied to who's point and who has completely ignored the others while trying to paint the other as the one at fault.

I think its fairly obvious my logic is solid, and yet you try and make bad arguments and distort what I am saying.

Thats the main reason why you are mafia - if you were not you would agree and vote kirennia/will.

You know my logic makes sense and are trying to distort and attack to avoid getting lynched.


If you were a villager you might attack it and find loopholes in it - you would not distort it as badly as you are trying to do.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Bleh I've made my point 10x already, I recommend anyone who isnt convinced reread the last 2 pages and see who has replied to who's point and who has completely ignored the others while trying to paint the other as the one at fault.

I welcome people to look at the pages too. And see who has been trying to get me hanged. I don't think i've claimed ECA as mafia, except in the comment about "townies should see this point".

But the more, almost ironially laughing point is this:

Thats the main reason why you are mafia - if you were not you would agree and vote kirennia/will.

I have voted for kirennia, first before you started accusing me, then after it was pointed out, changed my "haha" vote from you back to kirennia.

So...what now?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Only thing i'm not doing is agreeing with you fully.

Now it would be real easy to take that point you made "you'd vote for kirennia" and use it as a "see, clear mafia", but since i know you're less likely mafia, i'm not going to.

So how about YOU change YOUR vote to kirennia.

 

[ECA]

I've said all that needs saying, and wont play along with your feigned offence.

You have implicated yourself as mafia and your partner is will/kirennia/vasc.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I've said all that needs saying, and wont play along with your feigned offence.

You have implicated yourself as mafia and your partner is will/kirennia/vasc.

Figures.

Don't even practise what you preach.

You said i'm bad 'cause i don't vote for kirennia, i do. Yet, you don't acknowledge that and even refuse to vote that way yourself.

What gives?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Main reason i'm not mafia(your words) is 'cause i don't vote for Will/kirennia.

I do.

So should we assume by your logic that you're mafia 'cause you don't vote for kirennia?

 

[ECA]

Lol just you're not going to swing your way out of this one.

 

[old.Tohtori]

So now you're doing all you accused me off? Interesting.

Ignore VERY valid points and just keep claiming i'm mafia.

Claim my main "wrong" is that i don't vote kirennia, while i do.

You DON'T change your vote to kirennia though.

Anyone else here see this?

 

[ECA]

No, because you're lying again trying to worm your way out of it.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Right, i think i've pushed enough info out of you.

Thank you.

 

[Will]

We do appear to have reached a total deadlock here. Suggestions to get past it, anyone?

 

[ECA]

My suggestion would be waiting for everyone to read the thread when they get home from work and lynch tohtori.

 

[Levin]

I've read all, and I'm keeping with my Kirennia vote.

I'm not as convinced as ECA is that Tohtori is mafia, even if I haven't discarded the possibility. But ECA, Tohtori has a point there and you are not adressing it.

 

[ECA]

What point does he have?

 

[old.Tohtori]

We do appear to have reached a total deadlock here. Suggestions to get past it, anyone?

Well.

Since ECA told me to:

A: agree with him - which i did from some parts.
B: Vote for kirennia - which i have already.

I think i'm fairly "innocent" from that perspective.


One simple question ECA. If my main reason for being mafia is, that i don't vote for kirennia while i do, why are you not voting for kirennia?

 

[old.Tohtori]

You said i'm bad 'cause i don't vote for kirennia, i do. Yet, you don't acknowledge that and even refuse to vote that way yourself.

What gives?

For ECAs convinience had to quote myself.

 

[ECA]

That is NOT my main reason for you being mafia - yet again you claim me to have said something I have not said and distort what I have said

I said - IF you were a villager you would agree with my logic or question it and vote accordingly - I did not and never said my reason for voting for you and believing you are mafia is because of who you are not voting for

 

[old.Tohtori]

Thats the main reason why you are mafia - if you were not you would agree and vote kirennia/will.

That and, i did agree on parts of your post, those that did not contradict my own.

Now then, anything to add?

 

[ECA]

That and, i did agree on parts of your post, those that did not contradict my own.

Now then, anything to add?

you chop one phrase out of a sentence to make it appear so.

Firstly you are taking it out of a much larger chunk of text - the main reasoning behind you have refused to comment on for 3 pages, and secondly you ignore the conditionality of the statement.

 

[old.Tohtori]

you chop one phrase out of a sentence to make it appear so.

Firstly you are taking it out of a much larger chunk of text - the main reasoning behind you have refused to comment on for 3 pages, and secondly you ignore the conditionality of the statement.

Oh it was a complete sentence:

If i don't vote for kirennia, i'm evil. It's right there.

I'm voting for kirennia. I can even vote for Will.

want me to change the vote now?

How about you now practise what you preach, and vote for kirennia. Surely one more vote will come from somewhere.

If i haven't commented on some of your points, due repost and i'll answer with glee.

 

[ECA]

Your tactic at the moment is to question every post I make to fill the thread up with trash and stop people reading my earlier logic.

However you cannot hide that the only way you would attack me and ignore my logical valid points so badly and distort what I am trying to say so badly is because you are mafia.

 

[Iceforge]

Please stop using bold when it is not votes or other stuff meant for me (like mod: or prod... easier for me to miss votes the more bold is used in other instances

Anyway:

Vote Count
Day 1

Old.Tohtori - 2 - (Will, ECA)
Kirennia - 2 - (Levin, Old.Tohtori)
Levin - 1 - (Kirennia)

No Lynch: 2 (Fl3a, Vasconcelos)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

 

[old.Tohtori]

ECA, i ask again, a valid questions.

Why don't you vote for kirennia?

And why are you ignoring the point i've voted for kriennia most of the day?

Why are you ignoring that i've also agreed to parts of your logic?

Also, if you want, i'll vote for Will too.

So what's your problem, except a blind zeal to get me hanged.

If you can't answer those, you're surely becomig mroe and more a suspect in my books.

 

[ECA]

ECA, i ask again, a valid questions.

Why don't you vote for kirennia?

Because I believe you are mafia.

And why are you ignoring the point i've voted for kriennia most of the day?

Because you are mafia and want to convince everyone you are not.

Why are you ignoring that i've also agreed to parts of your logic?

You havnt, in fact you've avoided quoting any of it instead focusing on attacking any other aspect of my posts you can reply to to divert any attention away from the logic itself - this is actually my main reason why you are mafia.

What you have done is create 3 pages of me repeating my points logically and without prejudice and try and distort them and make it look like I'm trying to get you lynched for no real reason.


As a villager you would never ever behave this way.

In addition, you tried to ignore my logic and blow it off, claiming that the mafia could perhaps not have voted for Levin for the purpose of deception - a truly absurb claim compared to the advantage the mafia get of lynching levin and then killing another innocent - AGAIN THIS IS A HUGE PART OF WHY YOU ARE MAFIA.

Also, if you want, i'll vote for Will too.

Not right now thanks, I'm not sure who the second mafia is, so why would I switch my vote from someone who is mafia?

So what's your problem, except a blind zeal to get me hanged.

If you can't answer those, you're surely becomig mroe and more a suspect in my books.

lol.

Toht I will admit - you play the game well, but you are well and truly busted.

gg if you worm your way out of a lynch tonight.

 

[old.Tohtori]

First, if you're only reason is "you are mafia", then good luck to you as you are dead wrong. You'll see the moment i get hanged. Prepare to be hanged the next day though.

Second, you haven't just posted logic, all your posts have also insuated all the time that i'm mafia. Mafia mafia mafia. Say it long and many times enough and you believe your own lie.

Now...just so you don't again claim i ignore you points:

In addition, you tried to ignore my logic and blow it off, claiming that the mafia could perhaps not have voted for Levin for the purpose of deception - a truly absurb claim compared to the advantage the mafia get of lynching levin and then killing another innocent - AGAIN THIS IS A HUGE PART OF WHY YOU ARE MAFIA.

My point on "mafia didn't vote for levin because..." came before, read it carefully, BEFORE your logic was even close to this thread.

Go see yourself. Surely if you think you're right, you can check it.

Now, seeing as most of your points on me being mafia, are either A: You think i am. or B: I don't trust you blindly, i think that we can assume you could be wrong. Right?