Off-topic Mafia #7 Game Thread

[old.Tohtori]

mod: votecount please?
all this voting, unvoting etc is kinda confusing

According to me:

Kirennia - 1 - (Levin)
Levin - 1 - (Kirennia,)
Will - 1 - (ECA)
nolynch - 2 - (Vasconcelos, Will)

Not voted: 2 (Fl3a, old.tohtori)

i think...

 

[Levin]

Well I have to say... in my eyes ECA has a point about the 1:43 hours in between which both him and Fl3a could have killed me. So, since I know I am a townie, those two guys seem more innocent that the rest to me. I really don't think it's a trick because it feels like the benefit of nailing a townie would be greater than the benefit of maybe getting some credibility.

Note that all of this is in my eyes since I am the only townie who knows I'm a townie.

 

[kirennia]

Alright that's fair. I still feel that you are not somehow quite your usual self though.. so I suppose I would have to have a similar theory about you. It would be quite silly now if neither of us are! Still, I do agree with you that it's better to vote someone than to vote for novote.

No worries mate. Does seem that every game at the moment people are saying I'm acting strangely though, heh.

Gotta head out for now though, not sure when I'll be back. Revision for an exam tomorrow, bleh.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well I have to say... in my eyes ECA has a point about the 1:43 hours in between which both him and Fl3a could have killed me. So, since I know I am a townie, those two guys seem more innocent that the rest to me. I really don't think it's a trick because it feels like the benefit of nailing a townie would be greater than the benefit of maybe getting some credibility.

Note that all of this is in my eyes since I am the only townie who knows I'm a townie.

If it is a trick though, it's working exactly like it should, when looked at you alone. You know?

 

[ECA]

If it is a trick though, it's working exactly like it should, when looked at you alone. You know?

Even if it was a trick though, its not risk free - its very possible for one of the other players to get levin lynched.

Thats why it points very strongly to toht/will/kirennia being mafia with a smaller chance of vasc being mafia.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Even if it was a trick though, its not risk free - its very possible for one of the other players to get levin lynched.

Thats why it points very strongly to toht/will/kirennia being mafia with a smaller chance of vasc being mafia.

Erhm. Levin isn't a suspect in that.

It's you and fl3a, with the added fl3a destroying my test.

The test was to see if a mafia goon jumps on the wagon after i gave the third vote to Levin, if some other person got Levin lynched, the mafia would be overjoyed ofcourse.

 

[old.Tohtori]

So the trick lays in not voting and pulling the rug out from under my plan, while warning other mafia members of it.

 

[Iceforge]

Ty Old.Tohtori, copy+paste fortehwin.

Votecount
Day 1

Kirennia - 1 - (Levin)
Levin - 1 - (Kirennia,)
Will - 1 - (ECA)

nolynch - 2 - (Vasconcelos, Will)

Not voted: 2 (Fl3a, Old.Tohtori)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

 

[Levin]

So, it looks like unless someone who's already voted changes their vote, we will have either a deadlock, or a nolynch.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Aye. But it's a toughie with those tree.

All very bad bad people(if mafia) or very nice people to keep around.

(btw no problem Iceforge, gotta learn it some day)

 

[old.Tohtori]

Bah!

vote: kirennia

From those suspects, it's the biggest blab on my radar.

Time to move this game.

 

[fl3a]

im still not convinced about my suspects, and i dearly hope that im right about tohtori.
vote: no lynch

 

[old.Tohtori]

im still not convinced about my suspects, and i dearly hope that im right about tohtori.
vote: no lynch

I could easily do this, but, i don't know if i should.

It didn't work so great last time, and i'm not a 100% sure i'll survive the night

 

[Levin]

I have a bad feeling about this coming night too.

 

[ECA]

Sod it, tohts on my list of 4 and he's been way way more variable in chat, he says he doesnt go for confusion at the start but he forgets I was mafiosi with him last game and know he does.

unvote whoever
vote tohtori

Reasons:

He's mafia.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Sod it, tohts on my list of 4 and he's been way way more variable in chat, he says he doesnt go for confusion at the start but he forgets I was mafiosi with him last game and know he does.

unvote whoever
vote tohtori

Reasons:

He's mafia.

Interesting.

I never discussed any tactic with you, except one vote. You know nothing of what i did, except that you looked at it from a mafia perspective.

That's flakey at best and using my previous mafia background against me, so fine:

Unvote
Vote: ECA

Because he was mafia before!!!

 

[ECA]

It's not because you were mafia before its because:

you keep throwing random accusations
you are playing for confusion mode ( and succeeding ) - for eg vote switching to me to make it look tit for tat to disguise mafianess
you are disparaging my logic that yourself/will/kirennia are the most likely suspects w/ vasc/levin/fl3a being unlikely on the basis that its a trick when a kill would be much more +EV

 

[old.Tohtori]

It's not because you were mafia before its because:

you keep throwing random accusations
you are playing for confusion mode ( and succeeding ) - for eg vote switching to me to make it look tit for tat to disguise mafianess
you are disparaging my logic that yourself/will/kirennia are the most likely suspects w/ vasc/levin/fl3a being unlikely on the basis that its a trick when a kill would be much more +EV

No random votes: all have been based and facts given, more so then you.
No confusion mode, noone has voted based on what i say(like kirennia said).
You're "logic" says that everyrone else is mafia except you.
The kill is only efficient, if it doesn't get another mafia killed.

If i was mafia, i'd follow suite and just "novote" this day, kills someone who gives no info and be on my merry way.

According to your logic on voting me, you should vote for yourself as you're doing more of the things you're accusing me of.

 

[old.Tohtori]

and yes, you are trying to use my mafia background against me.

"I was mafia with tohtori, i know him!", when infact you knew nothing about my tactic in last game.

 

[ECA]

Your counter arguments distort what I say, and then comment on the distortion, and then you lieeeee.

I'm not trying to get you lynched because you were mafia - I was on the same team, so what grudge would I hold?

You say its me/flea then you vote kirennia?

You realise the logic behind what I say

3 votes on levin, and me/fl3a/vasc didnt jump on which mafia would do, vasc was afk, but that still means my earlier logic holds. Why would mafia take such a risk of lynching their own dude early unless its vasc/fl3a? they wouldnt, hence the combinations I wrote earlier still make sense.

As for "knowing nothing" about your tactic, its plain to see.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'm not saying it's anyone, i'm voting to gather information.

I said i suspect people, due to the reasons i gave.

But you misuse that as "you think i'm mafia fer suuure!".

Get it?

And i'm not distorting anything, again, you are.

I'm keeping this short and simple to avoid this confusion you fear.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Meant tactic in last game, which you had no part in. And that you shouldn't hold them against me. As you are.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Unvote

Because it was just a point-vote.

 

[Will]

Are we just playing "See how many times Tohtori can change his vote"?

It does look like either he is trying to start (or find) a bandwagon.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Are we just playing "See how many times Tohtori can change his vote"?

It does look like either he is trying to start (or find) a bandwagon.

If i wanted to start a bandwagon, i would've stayed with my earlier ones.

If i tried to find one, i'd be on one.

I'm voting and picking up stuff along the way, that all.

I've changed my vote, but that's because if i see my logic failing, or that there's a better logic, i'll change it.

I don't like the idea of a "freebie kill" to mafia, either way, novote or wrong vote, so i'm cautious.

But i'm not the only one votehopping, just look at ECA.

 

[ECA]

Tohts doing his whole feigned headless chicken act.

Seriously, toht is mafia.

Why would I hold the last game against you? we won. lol.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Tohts doing his whole feigned headless chicken act.

Seriously, toht is mafia.

Why would I hold the last game against you? we won. lol.

Sigh.

You're nto holding it against me in a way "you killed me etc etc", but you're holding my tactics as mafia against me. Which you knew, last game, nothing about and can't even comment if it were true.

And there's no headless chicken thing either.

I've explained all things, rational, clear, with no confusion, yet you're simply using my "talking person" status against me. I'm active, so what, i talk alot and i vote alot, that's how i get info.

 

[Levin]

Usually when two people get into a "duel" like this.. one of them tends to be mafia. Hmm.

 

[Levin]

Usually when two people get into a "duel" like this.. one of them tends to be mafia. Hmm.

But then again.. I wouldn't have put down either of Tohtori or ECA as mafia right now.. which is why I voted Kirennia. Double hmm.

 

[old.Tohtori]

the thing is, i'm not trying to get ECA hanged by all costs, i'm trying to figure out who to vote.