Off-topic Mafia #4 game thread

[Levin]

Vote: English

Sorry dude; I have no idea who's good and bad, but you voted for me. Consider this a cheap, simple and dirty retaliation vote. At least we might get things happening one way or another.

 

[Lethul]

Vote: English

Sorry dude; I have no idea who's good and bad, but you voted for me. Consider this a cheap, simple and dirty retaliation vote. At least we might get things happening one way or another.

I don't really have a clue about anything either atm. But the author has been the most fishy person in the game imo. And first night he even tried to get me killed.

Vote: English

 

[Calo]

Vote lethul

Same reason i voted you before.

And levin, I'm starting to think you're getting suspicous with the time. All that rattling

 

[Levin]

Vote lethul

Same reason i voted you before.

And levin, I'm starting to think you're getting suspicous with the time. All that rattling

Rattling? What rattling is that? You mean me talking and speculating? Or my retaliation vote on English?

I've said it before and I'll say it again - some people here are more active than others, and it's possible that I'm one of the more active ones. But what would the alternative be? If we all were as quiet as some of you others, we'd all have fallen asleep with boredom by now. At least this way, some of us are awake!

By the way, what was your reason for voting Lethul, again? I'm not against it, I'm just too lazy to try and find your previous reason amongst all that's been said.

 

[- English -]

Vote lethul

Same reason i voted you before.

And levin, I'm starting to think you're getting suspicous with the time. All that rattling

heh i aint lying to anyone.. Levin / Lethul are mafia.. no1 wants to beleive me. Will be intresting to see what happens when its proven im innocent. Shame it will be too late though. Im also curious to how mafia there are.. got a strong feeling theirs gonna be 3.

 

[Lethul]

Vote lethul

Same reason i voted you before.

And levin, I'm starting to think you're getting suspicous with the time. All that rattling

Unvote, Vote: Calo

You are constantly trying to avoid bandwagooning. Always voting for someone else if someone gets bandwagooned. You try hard imo to keep eyes off you. Maybe im wrong but it looks like it if you look back at previous votings. And now you say that levin is starting to get suspicious? You said that last time you voted for me now so he can hardly start getting suspicious now, in that case he would have been suspicious to you all the time but apparently not?

 

[- English -]

unvote

vote lethul

no you are constantly trying to bandwagon people

c'mon fellow townies, vote the scum out!

 

[- English -]

i dont think it helps our case as townies that half the people seem inactive ffs

 

[Levin]

English you're doing the same thing to me now that you did to Tohtori the previous day. Making me feel like I should unvote you just to not vote the same as Lethul is, lest you might convince everyone else he and I are in "kahootch". But I am not going to fall for it and for now my vote stays on you.

All that said, I'm still not 100% that you're mafia either.. so if you or anyone else can convince me to vote otherwise, i'm all ears. I'm just saying I won't change my vote because of your scare tactics.

 

[Levin]

Uh.. damn that was a quick smattering of posts... I need to read up and then I might change my mind completely again, one sec! (and damn the no edit rule heh!)

 

[Levin]

Damn this is getting too confusing! One thing I will agree with English on: it doesn't help the town that only some of us are talking!

 

[Levin]

So.. we have two possible kahootches here.. English and Calo on the one hand, and Lethul and me on the other? Why do I feel like the mafia are rubbing their hands in the dark right now going "eeexcellent" ?

 

[Lethul]

Damn this is getting too confusing! One thing I will agree with English on: it doesn't help the town that only some of us are talking!

It could be a mafia tactic, but we got fooled on amanita. And Toht says cerb is innocent. How many inactive people are left?

 

[Levin]

It could be a mafia tactic, but we got fooled on amanita. And Toht says cerb is innocent. How many inactive people are left?

It depends how you define "inactive", I guess. But a number of people have barely posted or not posted at all, since this new day started. I'm not trying to say they're mafia, but it would definately help if they spoke up a little more.

 

[Levin]

For example, Olgaline. What's your take on this? I see you're awake (OOC: other posts in the OT forum) but yet you say nothing here?

 

[Iceforge]

Votecount
Day: Day 4

English - 2 - (Levin, Kirennia)
Lethul - 2 - (Calo, English)
Calo - 1 - (Lethul)

Not voting: 4 (Vasconcelos, Olgaline, Old.Tohtori, Cerb)

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'm doing this, after watching all the sides talk, but help me if you're wrong english...

Vote: Lethul

You know that if Lethul is another innocent, we're screwed, but you've made a prime suspect of yourself.

 

[Calo]

So.. we have two possible kahootches here.. English and Calo on the one hand, and Lethul and me on the other? Why do I feel like the mafia are rubbing their hands in the dark right now going "eeexcellent" ?

Hehe I got the exact same feeling.

Dunno bout you Levin , but i just kinda find people who vote randomly pretty suspicous, like Lethul did last day on English. Same with vasc, there's really no pattern in it. Or you vote for someone and you keep with it, and put pressure on him , or you don't , but voting for someone and when he says "Hey I'm not mafia" oke unvote is a bit.. (and no I'm not pointing this to anyone, just in general).

Olga seems fine, didn't have 1 vote on him so I really don't know much about him. toht.. seriously no idea about, tbh great player for that .
Cerb too quiet, vasc some kind of lunatic?

 

[kirennia]

I personally feel I've said all that needs to be said; I think English's weird voting and very strange commenting on the break of each day couldn't make him look more guilty. Okay so you say you didn't say that last comment and it was Iceforge but then what better way to avert attention away from yourself if you are indeed a mafia author.

I still can't see why a townie author would have said what was said in the second day, even if it was an attempt to spice things up; it just made a random person look guilty...unless there is something more to it? I still don't see what the benefit would have been through trying to pin a random down as being a part of the mafia unless you yourself are part of the mafia and trying to avert attention.

That's why my vote on English sticks.

 

[old.Tohtori]

The problem here is the lack of people to vote. We're a dying breed really, and it's the final hours, if we mess the next one up.

I mean, if we vote the wrong person, it's almost impossible to vote for a mafia as they won't vote eachother. If it takes 4 to vote, you'd still need all of the townies to vote for that guy for him/her to get hanged, as the mafia wouldn't vote for themselves naturally.

So do we:

A: Take a chance and vote "just" someone and hope for the best?
B: Think about things and not hang anyone, let the mafia kill us slowly?(tomorrow won't reveal anything really at this point)
C: Take a moment to think and vote wisely, or as wisely, as we can and take the whole town into consideration, not just our own suspicions.

I'd go with C, because, so far, we've all voted on either mob mentality or by our own selfish needs and this is no way to get the mafia.

Just something to think about.

So i suggest, we take amoment, list who we think is mafia, list reasons, see who is actually standing out on all of our suspicions and then vote as a group, not as individuals.

 

[Vasconcelos]

VOTE: OLGALINE

I know I know, this doesnt get us anywhere, but among all the ppl in left in town, she has been the most annoying for me. Untill now, Ive been trying to decipher most of ppl posts trying to reach some logic. But Olga is just too quiet.
Might be just that she cant post as often as the rest do, or just cba to write long essays about this unterminable game, but, call me predictable, Ocam´s razor again: the most quiet is just the guilty one trying to not drag attention over him, (figures her looking nervously around )

 

[Lethul]

The problem here is the lack of people to vote. We're a dying breed really, and it's the final hours, if we mess the next one up.

I mean, if we vote the wrong person, it's almost impossible to vote for a mafia as they won't vote eachother. If it takes 4 to vote, you'd still need all of the townies to vote for that guy for him/her to get hanged, as the mafia wouldn't vote for themselves naturally.

So do we:

A: Take a chance and vote "just" someone and hope for the best?
B: Think about things and not hang anyone, let the mafia kill us slowly?(tomorrow won't reveal anything really at this point)
C: Take a moment to think and vote wisely, or as wisely, as we can and take the whole town into consideration, not just our own suspicions.

I'd go with C, because, so far, we've all voted on either mob mentality or by our own selfish needs and this is no way to get the mafia.

Just something to think about.

So i suggest, we take amoment, list who we think is mafia, list reasons, see who is actually standing out on all of our suspicions and then vote as a group, not as individuals.

Here are my view on things!

-English- : Has wanted me killed from the first night , but not by directly voting but trying to get me bandwagoned by using his author skill

Calo : Not saying much, not giving any info about anything. He just got his scope on me. Fair enough i might have acted fishy in his eyes i dunno.

Levin : Accused of being mafia together with me. Like we did some teamwork somewhere or something?

Vasconcelos : Not much about him either

Kirennia : Quiet as a fox, is he inactive? Observing us or simply not at the computer? Who knows!

And now to my new disturbing idea!

Tohtori : Says he is a Doctor, if he is a doctor has also cleared Cerbs name.
But what if he aint a doctor. What if its tohtori and Cerb that are mafia. They send in an "no kill" night message and says he saved cerb. Clearing both of suspicions. A very long longshot but worth considering.

Cerb : Same as vasc and kirennia really unless the tohtori theory holds true.

So hmmmmm. I really don't know who to vote for atm. Anyone else care to share their views? Have i forgotten anyone?

 

[Lethul]

Here are my view on things!

-English- : Has wanted me killed from the first night , but not by directly voting but trying to get me bandwagoned by using his author skill

Calo : Not saying much, not giving any info about anything. He just got his scope on me. Fair enough i might have acted fishy in his eyes i dunno.

Levin : Accused of being mafia together with me. Like we did some teamwork somewhere or something?

Vasconcelos : Not much about him either

Kirennia : Quiet as a fox, is he inactive? Observing us or simply not at the computer? Who knows!

And now to my new disturbing idea!

Tohtori : Says he is a Doctor, if he is a doctor has also cleared Cerbs name.
But what if he aint a doctor. What if its tohtori and Cerb that are mafia. They send in an "no kill" night message and says he saved cerb. Clearing both of suspicions. A very long longshot but worth considering.

Cerb : Same as vasc and kirennia really unless the tohtori theory holds true.

So hmmmmm. I really don't know who to vote for atm. Anyone else care to share their views? Have i forgotten anyone?

Olgaline : Same as the other inactives pretty much

 

[Olgaline]

reading up on the last couple of pages for me makes English look extreamly guilty.
and oddly Iceforge has just posted a vote count but yet the absence of a confermation as to English's claim about the the author text seems worrying. And atm I'm Incliened to vote For him, but I'll wait until tomorrow before making up my mind.

but really it's quotes like these that have me worried about you.

well if you think that your obviously scum.

Guys Im going to come clean. Its a BAD move I know, however, if there is a DOC out there I beg you if I get through this day stage to protect me! I am the _ AUTHOR _. This can be proved on the next scene upon request.

To my fellow TOWNIES. YOU Know if your a townie or not. DONT Let these dipshits dictate your life, or try to tell you what to do!

you seem eager with words like fellow townies, ect, also whats the point of anouncing your role as author ??? you already know you have no real power nor any real need for protection, nor any real suspecion going your way, so why on earth ? and you could sway so much more as an anon author towards tho's you suspec than you ever could as a known. makes no sence to me

you would protect an Author as you know im a townie, and you dont know who else is. If i die, you have noone to communicate with from your side.

yet later you admit that iceforge told you you have no real significans or powers ?? I'm confused

Well theres not much I can do now, Toht and co seem to have twisted your minds about who I really am. Ive said Im the townie Author and its all im going to say. I just ask you when you find out who I really am, to reconsider my posts. Maybe its too late then, but I think these active ones, toht, levin / lethul are mafia!

so now your pleading, and accusing at the same time ?
with a hint of stress relating to it might be too late "hurry!!!"

!votecount

more vote count prods from you

Dawn, start of Day 2

As Dawn drew, the town’s people gathered in the town centre to meet up. However, the town's people noticed a few were missing. As old.Tohtori did a headcount, he noticed (invisibletank) was missing! Suddenly Lethul scurried into the crowd, as if trying to be avoided.
Everyone looked around suspiciously...
They marched to (Invisibletank)'s house and searched through it, finding out he was Vanilla Townie

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

well speaks for it self

!votecount

please

vote count eh ?

Hmm i dont have any really. But your one of those people who I wouldnt want in the game. And considering you were a Townie last game, i suspect your Mafia this game. Even though it may have been random, I dont trust that.

last game ?

Ok, you have just won my vote. And if you are lying, shame on you. I also can say I swear on my Familys life I am the Author Vanilla Townie. Believe me now? I think its time we get down to business!

I dont believe you though, you have been after me for the last few days now. I believe you see my plan to be true, and are trying to get the bagonwagon to follow you.

If Levin is lying after what he has said, i feel sorry for him. Could you copy what me and Levin have said Toht, or would you not lie against your family.

Ive nothing to hide. I know im 110% innocent and feel no guilt about this. Id never do this, I have respect of my family as well so Its quite insulting you say that. I was kinda hoping you wouldn't say it though. Its just adding to the factor that you are looking more suspicous by the post to me.

And to say you haven't been after me. I think you have quoted everything I say and try to prove me wrong. I think you KNOW im innocent, but still want me out the game, for some supicious reason.

hmmmm....

Lol, im shocked!! Judas he cried lol.

Nah its your opinion at the end of the day. I feel ive done what I can, and after some stern posts in the forum I feel the mob are getting the better of us. Theres not much I can say but I am pleading that you dont hang me! Im innocent, get the copper to prove me or whatever I can do to prove this.

Before I notice the final blow coming in, ill give me last 2 cents on what I think is happening. Im willing to take this blow for the team. Im not sure if my role will continue after I do get bandwagoned, but would be nice if it did.

I ask you once more, rethink you logics!

Thanks for those kind words and I can assure you I wont dissapoint you. At the moment, its looking between either me or Amanita to be slain. Perhaps Ill have to bandwagon her, to try save myself, and then come tomorrow I will be dead anyway as the mafia will want to illiminate townies they know of. I can imagine you protecting yourself, although would the mafia want to take a 50/50 chance wasting a night lynch?. Lethul im dissapointed of, voting me as i suspected him, and hes made himself the top of my list atm. Hes also very quiet.

I think you are DOC atm, noone else has confirmed this. But would they want to? Theres always a hidden side to this, perhaps you are trying to play DOC so when the real doc speaks up, you know who he is. However, this would make you prime target next round. This is just a scenario and I aint suggestng anything.

I feel at the moment its my only hope to Unvote you. Ill wait upon peoples oninions before I join the bandwagon. I dont want to vote Amanita really without any real evidance from her suggesting shes ma.

Unvote Tohtori

amanita needs 1 more vote i think

I see

Townies, a quick rant here before Iceforge posts.

Whatever the outcome with Amanita is you need to THINK over night. I can nearly guarentee the mafia wont kill me, so the suspicion still lingers around me in the morning. You need to realise which people having been trying to frame me over the last few days ARE mafia. If the mafia kill another innocent tonight instead of me, and persuade you to vote for me today, thats anotehr 2 down. DONT LET THEM TRICK YOU FFS

was this really needed, you almost seemed to know in advance that she was inocent

ive always said Levin is mafia.. THANKYOU for doing this!. I may make myself look suspious in voting, bandwagoning or w/e, although if I dont the mafia will win, and if you vote me off, the mafia will win aswell!

vote levin!

lol, i'd have been scared if the mafia hit their own member

heh i aint lying to anyone.. Levin / Lethul are mafia.. no1 wants to beleive me. Will be intresting to see what happens when its proven im innocent. Shame it will be too late though. Im also curious to how mafia there are.. got a strong feeling theirs gonna be 3.

unvote

vote lethul

no you are constantly trying to bandwagon people

c'mon fellow townies, vote the scum out!

i dont think it helps our case as townies that half the people seem inactive ffs

right you really are eager to be a townie arent you ?

As for Vasc,
You have been really odd this game, you vote utterly sporaticly with no real reasoning, well exept for you last vote on me. question is, is this role play or tactics, but I'll give you this, you've stuck to it. I dont really get people saying I've been quiet tho all of a sudden I've Not been THAT! quiet to justify suspecion on thoes grounds imo

But you are right, I have been abit more quiet, but with good reason.
So far I've been wrong, and tbh I've thrown quite abit of blame and suspecion around but by now I'm guessing on the wrong targets, wich also Explains why I'm still alive, "I've been usefull to the mafia"

so the last 24hrs I've stayed quiet. wich imo has given space for other theories and brought up some interresting conflics wich might help narrow down the suspects.

As for Toht.
I belive that he's the doc. and the only other option here would be that there is no doc at all in wich case we'r screwed either way we then have no real way of prooving or disprooving anything. but I will say this what if the mafia hir home on the guess as to who the cop is and they have a role blocker ? how would that work maybe iceforge could clarify this as I'm not sure.
can a roleblocker block the Cop? and how would that work this would explain why the cop hasnt come forward as he ahs nothing to contribute? but that still somehow dosent put a shadow on toht imo since we'd still have a situation where you have 2 counter claiming doc's

so we'r left with 1 cop 1 role blocker and a fake doc ???? seems tooo far fetched to be viable to me.

Levin ? might very well be mafia, and seemed abit eager to tell us his aligment when he thought he was out of the game. yet I just cant get my self to vote for him as it would imo be quite a loss of a good detective if he turns out innocent, so to sum him up, I have no real reason not to suspect him and yet, I find my self not wanting to vote fpr him.

and a last little note to amanita, If your still reading this thread, you seemed abit upset after the lynch, yet I hope you realize my vote for you was based on suspecion and your play style. not on the simple fact that you were inactive?`or any dislike towards you in any way right ? You simply seemed Guilty and I was actually abit suprised that you turned out to be a Townie

As for the rest I just dont know.....

I'll keep an eye on whats going on, but to be perfectly honest after it turned out amanita was innocent I swore to my self I'd follow Toht's vote, I suspect I'll end up doing exactly that, but i wont place any vote as of yet.

 

[Olgaline]

arf forgot the edit rule, but did it to fix a ![/QUOTE] ending

I'll also add that i cant imagine that we have a doc and not a cop!
oh and btw dont go being to fast on disregardign a serial killer folks,
not killing till the very end makes alot of stratigic sence in my mind at least

 

[Olgaline]

Oh and quickly a another "little" reason for my well lets say decreased activity since the start of the game, is prob due to me having re-started playing daoc on Us clasic

took a 14day trial, hah now I'm stuck with a lvl 35,12,11,9 and Lotm...
and sleep deprovision

 

[Olgaline]

I thought just hit me,
If indeed levin and english are Mob pals and chose the tactic of
A no kill + autor Levin got saved script.

then cerb and Toht really just unmasked them...

but thats no more than an odd theory, if even that,

 

[Olgaline]

and yet, why waste a free night lynch on such a high risky plan

 

[kirennia]

Kirennia : Quiet as a fox, is he inactive? Observing us or simply not at the computer? Who knows!

Look three posts up from this one you made

 

[Levin]

Good to see people talking. I'll make a new post tomorrow. I just finished a 6 hour Dexter marathon. Damn I can't believe I haven't watched that show until now.. it rocks. And no that doesn't mean that I'm an "inspired" serial killer. Though I wish I was! And a cop! At the same time! Erm.. in a mafia game, I mean..

.. aaanyway, a little over tired here, so.. until tomorrow friends!