Off-topic Mafia #4 game thread

[old.Tohtori]

Hmm i dont have any really. But your one of those people who I wouldnt want in the game.

Hope you don't take this the wrong way, but that's just a messed up reason to vote for someone.

On second thought, hope you do take it the wrong way.

 

[- English -]

Hope you don't take this the wrong way, but that's just a messed up reason to vote for someone.

On second thought, hope you do take it the wrong way.

Dunno, like i said your one of the people Ill never trust in this sorta game

 

[kirennia]

Am back...will need to read up on this at some point but I can't sit upright for very long at a time; will post by the end of today hopefully.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Dunno, like i said your one of the people Ill never trust in this sorta game

Well, i don't really like that. But, guess it's not my place to say.

But voting for people because you don't like the person, not the way they play, and bringing personal and past issues into play, well, it's just a bit poor playmanship.

 

[- English -]

Well, i don't really like that. But, guess it's not my place to say.

But voting for people because you don't like the person, not the way they play, and bringing personal and past issues into play, well, it's just a bit poor playmanship.

I dont mean that in anyway at all. I mean your one of those people who are popular in this sorta game, and if i dont know your on my side, I wouldnt want you playing. Your like the good kid at football being chosenl first lol

oh and btw i dont have any personal issues with you, or not that i know of lol. So dont say that ^^

 

[old.Tohtori]

I dont mean that in anyway at all. I mean your one of those people who are popular in this sorta game, and if i dont know your on my side, I wouldnt want you playing. Your like the good kid at football being chosenl first lol

oh and btw i dont have any personal issues with you, or not that i know of lol. So dont say that ^^

Ah, misunderstood it a bit. Nevermind me snapping a bit at that.

But, if you don't know i'm on your side, that would surely mean you know who is on your side, and make you...you know...mafia.

 

[Levin]

But, if you don't know i'm on your side, that would surely mean you know who is on your side, and make you...you know...mafia.

Faulty logic. If he doesn't know you're on his side, it would be because he doesn't know what side anyone is on. If he knew who was on his side, he would also know which side you were on!

I'm not defending him or taking sides in this exchange, I just figured i'd point out the error in the quoted statement (for the record).

 

[old.Tohtori]

Faulty logic. If he doesn't know you're on his side, it would be because he doesn't know what side anyone is on. If he knew who was on his side, he would also know which side you were on!

I'm not defending him or taking sides in this exchange, I just figured i'd point out the error in the quoted statement (for the record).

Oh right you are.

Didn't think of it from the inverted point of view. My bad.

 

[- English -]

levin/toht are mafia.. couldnt be more obvious imo ;/

 

[Levin]

levin/toht are mafia.. couldnt be more obvious imo ;/

How do you figure that?

I'd happily bare my throat and let you lynch me just to prove you wrong (at least about me), but the town really needs to get it right this night, or we're in deep trouble. It's quite possible that Toht is mafia, just like it's possible that you yourself are. I'm still completely at a loss who's mafia right now, but I think we have to look for some less obvious alternatives. I know I talk a lot, but that's because I find these games a lot of fun and I have lots of time on my hands. I've not voted blindly or followed any bandwagons - I've acted upon my own conviction and logic and I've laid it out in the open for people to take either agree or not agree with.

Well, I'm going out for the evening now, so won't be able to post for some hours. Enjoy!

 

[old.Tohtori]

I think i said my case towards me being mafia, or in kahootch even with Levin, earlier.

The funny thing is, english you said you wouldn't want to be against me in any game, and now you're hanging me even if i'm not. I know you can't know for sure, but hell, who can?

Whatever it takes to prove i'm not mafia, i'll gladly do, just remember that if you're wrong, you're next in line as everyone will turn on you.

Just like happened with Rubric.

 

[old.Tohtori]

By the way English, i just read the whole weeks journal and noticed something.

You haven't spoken more then three words, threw one suspicion towards me on day one "just because", then have asked for votecounts as if to check up all the time, then you said, in almost back to back posts:

final vote to rubric "let's get this rolling" and then right after vote tohtori "let's get this rolling", in slightly different ways.

It seems that YOU've been waiting for a killing chance(as you did) and then when you notice someone using logic to find people out, and actually trying to do something for the town, you claim they are mafia.

For now, i have to say i don't like it one bit.

 

[- English -]

By the way English, i just read the whole weeks journal and noticed something.

You haven't spoken more then three words, threw one suspicion towards me on day one "just because", then have asked for votecounts as if to check up all the time, then you said, in almost back to back posts:

final vote to rubric "let's get this rolling" and then right after vote tohtori "let's get this rolling", in slightly different ways.

It seems that YOU've been waiting for a killing chance(as you did) and then when you notice someone using logic to find people out, and actually trying to do something for the town, you claim they are mafia.

For now, i have to say i don't like it one bit.

Its my own opinions on matters. I havent been really active I admit. Ive tried to base last games roles to this game. I was mafia last game and kinda understood how people played their roles then.

to me, the way you and levin are writing, reminds me of how me and kir discussed matters and I feel its just too obvious. Ill happily should out my role, but wouldnt mean anything, as the mafia would kill me off tonight. And if they didnt, it would be putting a bit target above your head, and people would ask the reasons why didnt they kill me?

Id like to hear what other people say tbh about my opinion

 

[old.Tohtori]

Its my own opinions on matters. I havent been really active I admit. Ive tried to base last games roles to this game. I was mafia last game and kinda understood how people played their roles then.

to me, the way you and levin are writing, reminds me of how me and kir discussed matters and I feel its just too obvious. Ill happily should out my role, but wouldnt mean anything, as the mafia would kill me off tonight. And if they didnt, it would be putting a bit target above your head, and people would ask the reasons why didnt they kill me?

Basing opinions on previous games, as roles are random, is ofcourse "logical", but a bit, iffy. 'cause there's no real hard evidence in that. Heck, i was hanged day one last time, so one can't really say how i would or wouldn't play if i was mafia, or any role for that matter. But, again, it's all for themselves really when it comes to opinions and whom to vote. So it's not wrong, just seemed a bit odd to me.

The second part worries me, because like i said, if the mafia kills you next night, i'm prime suspect because "he offed him to keep him quiet", and if mafia DON'T kill you, i'm prime suspect AGAIN when you say "See? I told he wouldn't off me."

So like i said, reagrding your "trap" here, i can't do anything, no matter what role i play.

 

[old.Tohtori]

If it makes you feel at all more certain, by the way, that i'm not mafia, i'll vote for levin, or amanita, or whoever you want. It's basiacally the same shot in the dark for me.

 

[- English -]

I think I need another think about this :s

 

[Amanita]

I can say one thing though, that has nothing to do with voting or pointing fingers. Have you noticed that the mafia has so far only murdered the quiet people? Kind of the "least" suspicious ones so to speak? Why do you think that is?

Because the mafia are the loud mouthed ones and the townies have shown themselves more eager to murder the ones who don't get to post so much!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Because the mafia are the loud mouthed ones and the townies have shown themselves more eager to murder the ones who don't get to post so much!

Actually quite true.

If you're outspoken, you get snatched and dun-o-witz quite quickly by the town folk.

If you're quiet, the mafia will grab you and make stuffed kittens out of you.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't..but...as seen, no quiet ones have been hung by the townies and all hung have been innocent.

Co-incidence? I'd like to think so!

 

[Levin]

Because the mafia are the loud mouthed ones and the townies have shown themselves more eager to murder the ones who don't get to post so much!

First of all let's get things straight. Townies lynch, mafia murders. Did you mean to say that townies are eager to lynch quiet ones, or that mafia are eager to murder quiet ones?

Secondly, about the loud mouthed ones being mafia, I think it may be quite the opposite, really. If I was mafia, I would happily sit back and wait for the townies to start accusing eachother, and then conveniently slip in some non committal comments and finally a vote to help things along just in the right moment. Or perhaps even a no vote, to seem like a real non violent guy. Perfect cover. No need to stick your neck out as a mafia, unless you or one of yours gets voted upon. Seriously, why would you?

Reading through all that's been said in this town since this all started, I think it's starting to get clear who's acting like what. Even you, Amanita, has stuck your neck out now by making a case against me, and in my eyes that makes you less suspicious.

 

[Iceforge]

Votecount
Day: Day 3

Levin - 1 - (Amanita)
Amanita - 1 - (Olgaline)
Old.Tohtori - 1 - (English)

Not yet voted: 7 (Vasconcelos, Levin, Calo, Old.Tohtori, Lethul, Kirennia, Cerb)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

 

[old.Tohtori]

Vote: Levin

Why? Because i think its the only way i can prove AT ALL that i'm not working against you guys like English is suggesting.

If it even proves anything, i don't know, this stalemate is unnerving.

 

[- English -]

Why? Because i think its the only way i can prove AT ALL that i'm not working against you guys like English is suggesting.

If it even proves anything, i don't know, this stalemate is unnerving.

tbh i think more people need to post. There should be a deadline!

 

[old.Tohtori]

tbh i think more people need to post. There should be a deadline!

Kinda the reason i've been keeping "quiet"(heh) on the weekend, can't come up with anything if people don't talk.

 

[Lethul]

You haven't spoken more then three words, threw one suspicion towards me on day one "just because", then have asked for votecounts as if to check up all the time, then you said, in almost back to back posts:

final vote to rubric "let's get this rolling" and then right after vote tohtori "let's get this rolling", in slightly different ways.

Hmmmmm

Vote: English

Had a busy weekend but tomorrow I'll be back and a bit more active again.

 

[Levin]

Well it seems we have an all-out blind-fight! Cerb, Kirennia and Calo.. you three have been really quiet lately. Just saying.

Tohtori, I'm disappointed that you'd vote for me just to appease others. I don't think you're mafia either, otherwise I'd happily vote right back at'cha. But you really need to drop the desperate act, or they'll lynch you right after me, if that's how it ends today.

Amanita on the other hand; if you really were a townie, I thought you'd be thankful I kind of saved your ass in the last round, even if it meant we ended up lynching an innocent Rubric. I've tried to tell you that just because someone is active and takes initiatives, they don't have to be mafia. You're still really eager to get me though. I really can't see you acting like you have been unless you're mafia.

Vote: Amanita

 

[old.Tohtori]

Levin, it's nothing personal and as you said earlier, sometimes you have to be selfish and think for yourself.

I'm not desperate, i just don't see any other way to prove my own innocence. As said, voting for Amanita might do this too, but if i now change my vote to amanita, it would only justify the suspicion english has, like doing some backhanded voting scam with first voting for you and then changing to amanita.

 

[Levin]

Levin, it's nothing personal and as you said earlier, sometimes you have to be selfish and think for yourself.

I'm not desperate, i just don't see any other way to prove my own innocence. As said, voting for Amanita might do this too, but if i now change my vote to amanita, it would only justify the suspicion english has, like doing some backhanded voting scam with first voting for you and then changing to amanita.

Well, voting for a guy who's only fault is that he's more active than others, just to please English, seems a bit odd to me. I don't see how asking others what to do and then do what you think they will like the most is going to make you less suspicious in their eyes. Anyway, of course I don't take it personal, you just want to hang me until i'm dead.

The funny thing is that while some of us are all active here voting for eachother, there are those who are really quiet and not drawing any attention whatsoever. You know who I mean.

 

[- English -]

Hmmmmm

Vote: English

Had a busy weekend but tomorrow I'll be back and a bit more active again.

well if you think that your obviously scum.

Guys Im going to come clean. Its a BAD move I know, however, if there is a DOC out there I beg you if I get through this day stage to protect me! I am the _ AUTHOR _. This can be proved on the next scene upon request.

To my fellow TOWNIES. YOU Know if your a townie or not. DONT Let these dipshits dictate your life, or try to tell you what to do! (some greenday lyrics for ya there)

I believe the mafia have a sneaky game going on.

1) They're all voting each other out, they probably agreed that if they lose 1 they've got more chance of conceeling it if they were to nominate. they are hoping people will bandwagon with them and then try to look innocent ' oh look, i voted a mafia out, now im mr innocent'.

2) I believe there to be 3 Mafia, Toht, Levin and Lethul. Amanita I kinda trust. She was innocent in the last game and same to that game, she was quiet also and told the truth. Toht on the otherhand seems slimey... ill never trust him in any mafia game. I believe hes too intelligant, has some sneakey game plan going on and I think its better we find out what he is? If there is a cop, perhaps he could be investigated. Levin, to me he looks suspicious once more - commenting a bit of the forum, sneakey quotes here and there. Hes on my mafia list atm. And Lethul purely cos of the way hes acting aswell.

There are alot of people still not replying, I guess they dont have to, but would be a help if they could start posting their opinions on whats been happening.

Im trying to base roles on last game and compare them to this. I was Mafia last game and because a Townie this round. Would it make sense to put the same person in? perhaps, but I think its more of give another person a chance. Toth, levin and lethul were all goodies last game. Anyway make your minds up and please DOC protect me or im a gonner come 2nite and if you dont believe me in this post, when im strung up high, re read what ive said. Afterall its a teamgame ^^

 

[kirennia]

Sorry I haven't been posting, have only just today got to the stage where I can sit upright/stand up for more then 5 minutes without bleeding all over the place... think the effects of my anaesthetic are finally starting to wear off too even if I am a bit slow still, woohoo!

In all honesty, I'm stumped; I was half expecting a cop to emerge by now to clear a few names for us as we're in what? The third day? If there is no cop then we're sadly going to have to rely on pot luck for this game but if there is, I hope they pull a magic wand out of their arse next round cause we could potentially be at the 'one false move and we're out' stage by then. For me, it's going to be those less active who draw my attention but I'm still not an advocator of lynching randoms as the odds are against us finding a mafia member and in turn, we'll just double their productivity for the day.

That said, if there is no cop then we're just going to have to go with our guts...

 

[Calo]

I really agree with english for the most part

Lethul's vote on english for no reason at all just seems SO suspicous.

Levin and Toht are just way to eager to be active.

To my scum's are

Lethul
amanita
Toht and levin following behind but i got a good feeling with him

Vote : Lethul