NS temp

[Lick]

this is something i might run, hate using swaps for env.
i can put up with lower stat caps as i can just plug the gaps using RAs if i feel i have any problems.

Config Report

Stats

Str: 93 Int: 0 Hits: 369
Con: 92 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 93 Cha: 0
Qui: 54 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 28 Energy: 35 (5) Crush: 32 (5)
Cold: 23 Matter: 24 Thrust: 26
Heat: 26 Spirit: 24 Slash: 26

Skills

11 Envenom

11 Critical Strike

13 Piercing

11 Stealth

10 Celtic Dual

13 Blades

Focus

Cap Increases

17 Dexterity

170 Hits

17 Strength

17 Constitution

Other Bonuses

20 AF

8 Melee Damage

15 Fatigue

12 Style Damage

10 Melee Combat Speed

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Astral Jerkin of Withering
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 3 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 2: 21 Constitution
Effect 3: 8 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 7: 4 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 8: 4 Style Damage
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 29.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 32.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: 25 Quickness - 99 Flawless Airy Essence
Gem 2: 3 Envenom - 99 Rough Dusty Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 3 Critical Strike - 99 Rough Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 3 Stealth - 99 Rough Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 61.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Strength - 99 Precious Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 28 Constitution - 99 Perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 7 Quickness - 99 Rough Airy Essence
Gem 4: 25 Dexterity - 99 Flawless Vapor Essence
Utility: 54.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 19 Strength - 99 Faceted Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 28 Constitution - 99 Perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 19 Dexterity - 99 Faceted Vapor Essence
Gem 4: 44 Hits - 99 Polished Blood Essence
Utility: 55.00

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Envenom - 99 Flawed Dusty Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 4 Critical Strike - 99 Flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Heat - 99 Polished Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 19 Dexterity - 99 Faceted Vapor Essence
Utility: 70.67

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 Flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 4 Critical Strike - 99 Flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Envenom - 99 Flawed Dusty Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 4 Stealth - 99 Flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 80.00

Right Hand
Name: zen
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 3 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 4: 5 Fatigue
Effect 5: 4 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 AF
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Left Hand
Name: Astral Mephitic Fang
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Fatigue
Effect 2: 3 All Dual Wield Skills
Effect 3: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 4: 4 Style Damage
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: 15 AF
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 15.00


Neck
Name: moh
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Body
Effect 2: 5 Cold
Effect 3: 5 Heat
Effect 4: 5 Energy
Effect 5: 5 Matter
Effect 6: 5 Spirit
Effect 7: 5 Crush
Effect 8: 5 Thrust
Effect 9: 5 Slash
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 90.00

Cloak
Name: astral cloak of whispers
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 2: 4 Stealth
Effect 3: 22 Strength
Effect 4: 22 Quickness
Effect 5: 60 Hits
Effect 6: 4 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 84.33

Jewel
Name: eerie darkness stone
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Heat
Effect 2: 5 Matter
Effect 3: 4 Crush
Effect 4: 5 Cold
Effect 5: 3 Body
Effect 6: 4 Slash
Effect 7: 5 Energy
Effect 8: 5 Spirit
Effect 9: 4 Thrust
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Belt
Name: soulbinder
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 35 Hits
Effect 2: 7 Spirit
Effect 3: 7 Matter
Effect 4: 7 Energy
Effect 5: 7 Heat
Effect 6: 7 Cold
Effect 7: 7 Body
Effect 8: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 92.75

Right Ring
Name: Zahur's Ring
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Spirit
Effect 2: 6 Body
Effect 3: 6 Energy
Effect 4: 6 Cold
Effect 5: 6 Matter
Effect 6: 60 Hits
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 75.00

Left Ring
Name: trollstone ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 80 Hits
Effect 2: 80 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 3: 9 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 4: 1 Crush
Effect 5: 1 Thrust
Effect 6: 1 Slash
Effect 7: 1 Body
Effect 8: 1 Matter
Effect 9: 1 Spirit
Effect 10: 1 Energy
Utility: 34.00

Right Wrist
Name: Cyclone Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 2: 10 Thrust
Effect 3: 10 Slash
Effect 4: 11 Crush
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Left Wrist
Name: aaawarshadow bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Energy
Effect 2: 6 Body
Effect 3: 6 Thrust
Effect 4: 6 Crush
Effect 5: 6 Slash
Effect 6: 50 Hits
Effect 7: 50 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 8: 3 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 87.50

 

[Lick]

missed off armour bonuses - old sc calc
str 15
con 15
dex 15
DW 3
hits 40

 

[Ceixah]

20 af / not 400 hits / 0 spell pierce.


try again my friend!

also ml10 chest = lose

 

[ESR211]

If you're totaly broke and this is the best you could muster, then I would say let it take you to rr5.

But your sig block says you have a rr11 so im going to assume you arn't broke. Look further down in some NS threads for some good templates. I posted a few, and Ceixah has the best i've seen so far.

Spellcrafting that many items on a NS = Bad news.

 

[ESR211]

Also, regarding your swaps for envenom: If you drop your env with a swap out after applying you will have damage variance in your poisons.

So its best to keep 50 comp at all times.

 

[Ceixah]

ESR211 <3


its really easy to make a cheap shade template though I didnt even look before but looks like you're using locked down weapons.


in which case it should be even easier !

If i was still playing I'd totally give a crack at sorting you a temp however atm I'm taking a short break!

I've given my buffbot pc's PSU to a friend who can't afford a PSU atm so I'm just chilling atm

 

[Ceixah]

My suggestions


2x Tark Rings
Jewel of the Dread Stalker
Dragonseye strand
Mydraxxis Cloak
Galla Vest
Slayer Arms
ML10 Legs(if not too expensive these days - if not I'd recommend using slayer legs)
10AF Crafted boots
Scallars
Crafted Hat

if you're set in using the same weaps all the time I'd recommend going blades and using technomancers and something like malice.

Malice proc still wins fights.
and 125 dot proc is sick on technomancer.


you need to remember above all else though - you need to survive on a shade so capping out your defence is very handy.


50af 400hits is a must.


10spell pierce is a bonus and a very good one at that.

 

[ESR211]

How hard does that 125 dot hit for in a 26% resist reality? 80-90?

 

[Ceixah]

How hard does that 125 dot hit for in a 26% resist reality? 80-90?

viper used to effect it

dno about now

 

[ESR211]

Currently im using leggy mainhand and dragonslayer fumble/melee resists +5 in offhand, its pretty hilarious when the fumble lands

But in the end all I think my 2 leggy template was more effective. I'll probably end up making a temp very similar to cexiahs, ima try to fit levi ring in there and remove scalars tho (I have personal vendetta against scalars.)

 

[Ceixah]

Currently im using leggy mainhand and dragonslayer fumble/melee resists +5 in offhand, its pretty hilarious when the fumble lands

But in the end all I think my 2 leggy template was more effective. I'll probably end up making a temp very similar to cexiahs, ima try to fit levi ring in there and remove scalars tho (I have personal vendetta against scalars.)

Don't understand why


when scallars proc I can take 3-4 at same time w/o mezz poison


when it doesnt proc just 1-2

 

[ESR211]

Which speed leggies do you use cex? 4.2 or 3.4?

 

[Ceixah]

dual 4.2s


I've not played in weeks mind


but I assume that the shade is still overpowered will say it again though - shade temp should be defence first!


scallars is a damn good form of defence :>

 

[ESR211]

im using dual 4.2s also, but im thinking I may buy a set of 3.4s to see if I can cap that attack speed and get off a debuff faster.

 

[Lick]

how effective is the AF, how does it equate in terms of melee resists and is there an absorb factor to it as well? I run a bard bot too, so I wasn't overly concerned with it.
369/400 hits is fine tbh - if a fight comes down to a 31 hp point difference then I'd just call it a good fight that I lost lol.
I was trying to move away from leggys and not go blades. So sick and tired of the same old weapons. Guess I'm stuck with them. Zen and meph rarely proc and I can't remember plaguebringers proccing too often either.
Is it worth investing in WP and MoM? If so, do you crank the RA or balance it with MoP?Does MoM stack with viper? Can't remember if WP works with viper.
Just bought infernal sleeves so I'll have another crack at it with leggys /sigh
Thanks for feedback.

 

[Lick]

I've run into a lot of high magic resists a few times - are there any reasonable piercers to switch to when that happens?

 

[Ceixah]

my infernal temp with leggies should be on the forum somewhere - or someone should have it - i've recently formatted so don't have the config report anymore


but 50 af and 400 hits is a MUST!

and 90+ con

(i also run an AF bot when playing and have 729 AF buffed - it helps!)


as for the 31 hp comment, I used to think like that too but you sure as hell notice the difference when you have 400 hits.


items my template uses however are...



Galla Vest
Infernal Sleeves
ML10 Legs
Scallars
+5 con cap hat
+10 af boots or +3 dual wield can't remember

ml10 cloak
dragonseye strand
atlantis tablet
soulbinders belt
2x warshadow bracer (i think)
2x Tark ring
2x leggie weaps



I think thats the right items

 

[Ceixah]

I've run into a lot of high magic resists a few times - are there any reasonable piercers to switch to when that happens?

the debuffs see to those problems easily enough.


i attack heavy tanks with shaman resists up and still rip them in half - viper helps.

 

[ESR211]

Our templates are posted here:

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/templates-307/248325-need-bladeshade-template-3.html

That page links directly to cex's normal and infernal templates, mine is on the page just before that one.

The primary difference between our templates:
Mine has more heal procs, CL5/Slayer weapons, with the option to swap out for a leggy mainhand, only 1% attack speed and lower AF.

Cex's has capped attack speed, dual leggies, higher af, lower dex, less heal procs.

 

[ESR211]

Cex, I had some free time yesterday and started working on a temp with 10% SP and 10% magic damage. I managed to get 8% magic damage, with melee TOAs capped. But the trade off was 0/11 Celtic Dual.... Any thoughts?

 

[ESR211]

The items were:

Slayer vest
Infernal Sleeves
Slayer pants
Epic Helm
Bloody Boots
Crafted Hands (I may make scalars fit here for 0 crafted armor pieces)
Dual Leggies

Dragonseye Strand
ML10 Cloak(hacked in)/Shades of Myst also fits
2x Tark Rings
AT
Soulbinders Belt
2x Warshadow Bracers

I need to do some testing to see the damage difference with 10% magic damage for a NS, teamed up with Mastery Of Magery.

Gives me 40/50 AF too depending on cloak.

 

[Ceixah]

drop a config report in mate and i'll have a look - I attempted this once but failed miserably

 

[Punishment]

10% magic damage doesnt make much odd's the biggest factor by far is having 101/101 dex

I used to swap to ml10 staff on ns to nuke and i would lose 8 dex and from that 8 dex i would lose more damage than i gained from the 4% spell damage

 

[ESR211]

That makes sense punish, but im looking to find out how 10% magic dmg will affect my poisons and DDs while in melee rather than actually casting on people.

 

[Lick]

hmm just punched in the infernal template into korts sc calc - the weaps are coming up as 38/32 impossible if i put in the 4hp gem @ 94% in the 4th slot. Thats how it used to be done to calculate the imbue properly , has it been changed or is there a little hack?

 

[Lick]

ah nvm looks like they changed it

 

[Ceixah]

my infernal temp?


kinda makes me wanna play again haha

 

[Amphrax]

i wouldnt get out of bed for that template

make a better 1 or i shall hunt you down!!!

 

[ESR211]

Fine... ill post my newest one when I get out of the office... only to satisfy you punish...

 

[Ceixah]

i wouldnt get out of bed for that template

make a better 1 or i shall hunt you down!!!

we both know my template is the best on the market! :>


althought I could probably improve it if I wasn't such a lazy turnip that gets angered by making templates


although not sure when i'll be resubbing and playing again (although my accounts are actually open i think haha)