Noticed a drop in numbers?

Das_Hibbie

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Well, I'm sort of thinking of coming back to daoc after a break and a bit of EQ2 playing. But I don't know, somehow I have the feeling I don't want to join a sinking ship! Do you beleive the numbers will continue to fall? Have you noticed any great fall in players? Do you beleive Catacombs will bring a lot of fresh blood to the game?

Thanks ;-)
 

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Das_Hibbie said:
Well, I'm sort of thinking of coming back to daoc after a break and a bit of EQ2 playing. But I don't know, somehow I have the feeling I don't want to join a sinking ship!

these answers are from an alb perspective btw.

Das_Hibbie said:
Do you beleive the numbers will continue to fall?

Over what period of time? I do not expect the numbers to become 'low' for a year or so yet. After that its anyones guess.

Das_Hibbie said:
Have you noticed any great fall in players?

Great fall? no. A few have left, I wouldnt say its hugely noticable though.

Das_Hibbie said:
Do you beleive Catacombs will bring a lot of fresh blood to the game?

Possibly, I dont know.

Das_Hibbie said:
Thanks ;-)
np
 

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Great fall? no. A few have left, I wouldnt say its hugely noticable though.

Try playing hib, the drop-off in players is very noticable...sometimes we get 200 lvl 50's at primetime, half of those are bots or double/tripple accounts.
 

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Aye i suspected as much, thats why i posted that its from an alb point of view.

I've seen alot of hibs in RvR though recently, certianly not 200 in one area but you guys gave us a good fight at scath a few days ago :)
 

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Hibernia is virtually on its knees for population, however, we still hold our own in keep warfare and its a lot of fun being the underdog (population wise) sometimes.
 

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Raven said:
Hibernia is virtually on its knees for population, however, we still hold our own in keep warfare and its a lot of fun being the underdog (population wise) sometimes.

Spose, and its not like you notice it in FG v FG (where that still happens).

alot of the time in open-field fights like at beno tower near the docks you lot can still keep up, even number-wise to a point ;)
 

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Das_Hibbie said:
Well, I'm sort of thinking of coming back to daoc after a break and a bit of EQ2 playing. But I don't know, somehow I have the feeling I don't want to join a sinking ship! Do you beleive the numbers will continue to fall? Have you noticed any great fall in players? Do you beleive Catacombs will bring a lot of fresh blood to the game?

Thanks ;-)

Think they will continue to fall. Final Beta to WoW is soon out, and possibly alot of people trying that. Dunno how many will continue of course.
Although over time i believe daoc will die more and more. I find most stuff useless in RvR as a mid vs all the albs. Not much to go for, eh?

Great fall...i know hibs have suffered alot. Mids have lost a handful of players aswell, especially the hardcore RvR players as NF don´t have much to offer for fg fightings.

Doubt Catacombs will get players back to the game. They might be tuning up for the graphics, but i´d rather have a balanced game than a cool looking one.
Even now we hear alot fo whine regarding the new classes, so i guess Mythic are screwing stuff up more than usual :-/
 

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This truelly saddens me to hear. Daoc is by far the greatest mmorpg I have played and I really look back at the SI days and feel such anxiousness to play at those times again. ToA started to ruin it for me however, as for many others...
 

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Tallen said:
Try playing hib, the drop-off in players is very noticable...sometimes we get 200 lvl 50's at primetime, half of those are bots or double/tripple accounts.

thats cos they all got perma bans. or 15day suspensions :(
 

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Anyone else think the underdog bonus's are not worth a light? Great for PLing chars to 50, but as most new players havnt got a clue what it means, and obviously prefer Albion or Midgard, its not going to sway a new populus that direction is it?


Giving new players /level 20 - not just old players - in Hibernia might just do it.

As for the population dwindling, tbh I think it is, TOA is deserted, the old realm deserted and be honest, even NF doesnt seem to have the members these days either. Excluding alb ofc.
 

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the population is slumped slightly - some are playing the US WoW, some EQ2, some Hello Kitty online ;)

Albs only have a big population in RvR if the keeps start falling - looks like a lot have gone back to pve thanks to being whined at 24/7 by the hibs/mids for existing ;)

(at least the last tower retake I was in there were 40+ mids in a tower, and about 20 albs outside - all running solo... grumble)

The game is far from dead though, depressed maybe but far from dead.
 

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Few friends have come back from EQ2 after a month or so now, due to boredom, got to be good for DAoC when other mmrpgs can't live up to it, lets hope WoW gets boring quick for players also. :p
 

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Jaem- said:
Few friends have come back from EQ2 after a month or so now, due to boredom, got to be good for DAoC when other mmrpgs can't live up to it, lets hope WoW gets boring quick for players also. :p

Aye it would be good to see some of the people who've gone to WoW etc coming back, we just have to hang on for re-enforcements to arrive! :D
 

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Dukat said:
Aye it would be good to see some of the people who've gone to WoW etc coming back, we just have to hang on for re-enforcements to arrive! :D

WoW will get boring for the people that love RvR/PvP or ppl that dislike PvE (which is about the same) i wanna bet there will be a real drop on the numbers when wow hits us, but i also wanna bet that after 1 month the first few will be coming back and after catacombs a lot more will come.

im not worried about it tbh.
 

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Who's going to come back for catacombs? its buggy as hell and adds more inbalences to the game.

DAOC is already floundering in the states over a month after the WOW release and Mythic have been adding fuel to the fire, i really think they might have fucked it this time.
 

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/level did nothing to fix the population - people rolled 30s, went to the BGs then went home...


improved xping and free levels should in theory encourage people to go level on a foreign realm, it's a bit more encouraging than 10 extra levels on a /level anyway
 

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Poon said:
Who's going to come back for catacombs? its buggy as hell and adds more inbalences to the game.

DAOC is already floundering in the states over a month after the WOW release and Mythic have been adding fuel to the fire, i really think they might have fucked it this time.

people in the USA are wankers and whining bitches. as i said many many times already. dont judge if u havent played it.
 

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Well as the last 2 expansions were shite and this one hasnt been well recieved in the US it doesnt really bode well does it, adding instances (Which really needed to have been added with TOA) and a couple of new classes wont change why people are leaving the game.

Just going to add more PVE and to be fair DAOC has never done PVE well, more so when you have games like COH which actually trys to bring new ideas to PVE and pulls it off, PVE is just a means to an end with levels and items in DAOC it cant be too much else other then that apart from having abit of a social as it just isnt that good.
 

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What iwe seen, the US people have actually not whined at catacombs, other then bugs that gets fixed quite fast. Its sort of a SI2, you don't really NEED it but its fun to have and spend some time in perhaps ;x

The only expansion that really destroyed DAoC was NF, ToA is actually fun when the initial rush had settled.
 

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you just cant release two very unpopuler expansions in the lead up to the release of a game that threatens to take your custom away, I just dont know what mythic were thinking, catacombs is pretty much just fluff with a few new imbalances thrown in. It wont attract new players and i doubt it will help keep many existing players. Mythic need to hold thier hands up and say yes we fucked up big time, but we are going to make it right. I am not saying give back old frontiers because that just wouldnt work, and they cant really roll back to pre toa.
They need to start fixing the existing game rather than just slapping on new bugged classes/items/abilities but i fear its to late.
personaly i still enjoy the game most of the time, however the numbers of people i can enjoy the game with gets smaller each week, my friends list which used to have nearly 50 people on is down to just a handfull.
DAOC is dying and i dont have much confidence in mythic fixing any of the problems, even if they do thanks to GOA we wont get the fixes for a good 6 months after they are implemented.

:(
 

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I did a post in the RvR Section on 10th December and this was the population of the server

Excalibur
Alb - 3849 Chars 39.9% (10% pow bonus, 20% str bonus)
Hib - 2363 Chars 24.5%
Mid - 3420 Chars 35.5%
Total - 9632

Now it stands at

Alb - 3315 Chars
Hib - 1892 Chars
Mid - 2550 Chars
Total - 7757

A drop of 1875 active characters. Which is almost the same as the current population in Hibernia. So the game has lost a realms worth of characters.
 

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Hib was a ghost town when I last logged on. So few people I know left it wasn't worth staying in the end. Even if WoW turns out to be crap, I won't be returning to DAoC and I'm probably not the only one with that view. WoW being poor won't make DAoC any better after all. :p
 

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Gibbo said:
I did a post in the RvR Section on 10th December and this was the population of the server

Excalibur
Alb - 3849 Chars 39.9% (10% pow bonus, 20% str bonus)
Hib - 2363 Chars 24.5%
Mid - 3420 Chars 35.5%
Total - 9632

Now it stands at

Alb - 3315 Chars
Hib - 1892 Chars
Mid - 2550 Chars
Total - 7757

A drop of 1875 active characters. Which is almost the same as the current population in Hibernia. So the game has lost a realms worth of characters.
Where are those numbers from? they seem a bit low.
Duskwave lists the following for active characters:
Alb 4,705 (46%)
Hib 2,416 (23%)
Mid 3,163 (31%)
Total 10,284
 

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u don't need figures to see drop in numbers...just stand in aegir for 20 mins and u can notice a major difference.
 

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Mythic hiking their prices a month after US WoW and 1 month before Euro WoW - hold the phone Mr Gates, we have a genuine business genius :kissit:
 

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The drop is huge. Many from Tiwaz has left the game...except a few playing. Its amazing regarding the diference when SI came out, to ToA and finally NF.

Tbh i like the old SI times myself. Get to 50, quest a little for the good resist items and have a suit SCed. Now your done for RvR and can go ahve fun. As ToA came, it added artifacts which seems nice...but after 1 time of ToAing a char, most cba to do it on another.
The time it requires is stupid.

People who hate pve will leave such stuff. Daoc is going the wrong way, and will keep on doing so.
Maybe people believe Catacombs will drag the players back, but i doubt it. Even thou we haven´t tried it, most of us see no use in trying out the extra stuff, when alot is still bugged or imbalanced.

U.S people might be having a better time, as their bugs and changes are patches quite fast. How many patches are we behind in E.U due to GOA have to translate the patches into 3 languages? -_-

Regarding the people saying WoW will bore people: Im not sure...tried it yourself?
Alot of people who left for U.S WoW haven´t returned, so doubt they are bored.
 

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Jaem- said:
Few friends have come back from EQ2 after a month or so now, due to boredom, got to be good for DAoC when other mmrpgs can't live up to it, lets hope WoW gets boring quick for players also. :p


The problem is that DAOC is friggin boring too...
 

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semanon said:
The problem is that DAOC is friggin boring too...
Compared to what other MMORPG is that...... oh the ones with poor PvP content, bugged and dull PvE content you say?

So many of the people posting the doom and gloom on this thread are ones who went away, tried stuff, came back and really should shut up about how crap DAoC is. WoW has already shown in the US to be grind city, its not better than DAoC, its new, thats all.

Same goes for most other MMORPGs, CoH is boring dont say otherwise, even if you are into roleplay eventually your brain will commit suicide if you dont cancel your subs, when you can figure out how to.

The last 2 expansions were crap, justify it. SI brought new content, expanding the PvE side of things and making us group together more, the intriduction of SCing and alchemy were not the best inventions, but at least crafters got business.

ToA, well everyone likes a glowy weapon and to be unique, well now you have it, sure its got bugs, what game hasnt. SWG patches more times than I take a crap, so?

You can try as many games as you want, but be honest, DAoC still has the best PvP content unless you wanna play FPS, then sod off to CS, and its PvE is not as bad as some make out, sorry you dont get an insta win button, thats not the point. Just because numbers have dropped doesnt just mean that DAoC is dwindling, thats rather pessimistic, theres a lot of other games about now compared to a year ago, and people diversify, we all like change once in a while.
 

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