Nolby Pride @ Camlann will...

[old.XanateA]

Ahh, you mean we get caught up by the Epic-Millenium-Cutting Edge-Arans Circle-Ars Necandi-Avalanche etc alliance? =)))

NP vs WL vs The rest
All guilds in that alliance suck, and they just proved it to the rest by allying up with every guild they see =)
Only WL and NP is good. Rest is just fetlollade slan

 

[razta-ownz]

Trwealeef, (or wahtever) If we run with speed and some newbie attacks we loose speed. not so fun to loose speed all the time. if u see a big NP train come running move aside please.

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by old.XanateA
Ahh, you mean we get caught up by the Epic-Millenium-Cutting Edge-Arans Circle-Ars Necandi-Avalanche etc alliance? =)))

NP vs WL vs The rest
All guilds in that alliance suck, and they just proved it to the rest by allying up with every guild they see =)
Only WL and NP is good. Rest is just fetlollade slan

sounds kinda smart, dont you play the game to win ?
screw honor, moral and fun. win win win

 

[kr0n]

True, but how can you say you win when the 500 others did it for you

 

[old.Atrox]

crowd control.... get the zerg to do your dirty work...


anyway if I wanna win, I rather stand with the zerg gaining rp's, then lay in the grass whining...

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by old.XanateA
Ahh, you mean we get caught up by the Epic-Millenium-Cutting Edge-Arans Circle-Ars Necandi-Avalanche etc alliance? =)))

NP vs WL vs The rest
All guilds in that alliance suck, and they just proved it to the rest by allying up with every guild they see =)
Only WL and NP is good. Rest is just fetlollade slan

Well, that's like saying anyone guilded sux. I have no guild atm, so it's me vs other soloers vs guild x vs guild y etc.
If guilds allying together to make themselves stronger sucks then so does people allying with other people to form a guild suck.
Work with my logic here people!

 

[Pixie.Pebr]

Lessurl 1 - Xanatea 0

or as we say on Camlann:

PWNED j00!!!!11

 

[Tealeaf]

Originally posted by razta-ownz
Trwealeef, (or wahtever) If we run with speed and some newbie attacks we loose speed. not so fun to loose speed all the time. if u see a big NP train come running move aside please.

Ratty-bone (or whatever), as I said, I was attacked by NP, not the other way around, and as you should know, when your train attacks you also lose speed, so what you have said is a crock of shit (even if only one of you attacks and the rest don't lose speed (can't remember which patch this happens) the train will have to stop and wait for the attacker to catch them up again).

If you really don't want to lose speed then it would be best for you to leave non-aggresesive people alone.

Mother of all, and you have the gall to call people newbies?

I really do admire your skill in being able to run so fast with such big bollocks both hanging out your breeches and in your mouth.

 

[)nick(]

A guild has a stronger bond amongst its members a, strategic, alliance is of short duration and will crumble once there's no-one left to kill on the server, see andred. You don't see guilds disbanding all their members and fighting each other now do you.

Alliances are an excuse to zerg.

 

[solothores]

@Xan
Hmm... doesn't make sense, why should we place some of our allies on the kos list then?... wouldn't be pretty smart by us... well since we are german-speakers we must be pretty dumb... that should explain everything... I know... anyway.

Nolby Pride being enemy of all the guilds you named here, doesn't necessary mean that we are allied with them, we are connected by the same behaviour against your guild, that may be true... though, if you declare war against all guilds on the server which don't con gray to you... you have to be prepared that everyone is threating you the same way back... or even worse and ppl who get ganked by lev50 in epic-armor do pretty much team up against those if they by themselves are not lev50. That's pure human behaviour and doesn't need additional explanation if you have some experience about mmorpgs...

Further reason, why everyone turns on NP if the above mentioned parties are gathered together on one place may be, as someone allready stated from NP, your guild members sir, do certainly give the best amount of rp and exp atm... and most of your guildmembers are outleveled while it is definitly not the same vice-versa

However, big conclusion: Villains who don't care about diplomatics, factions and allies will not survive long enough on pvp server. This is not prophecy, this is fact... the same goes for history as long as everything is in chaos you can survive pretty long... but as soon as things turn out clear, it folds out pretty hard keeping up life as a villain... and as soon as you start to loose, even old *good* forum friends will start stabbing you...

And no... I don't have anything against Nolby Pride , on the other hand... I even don't care about getting virtually spanked over and over again, since I feel the *sick* love much ppl have to share... however, this is a game... and somehow it can be a good game, if players never forget about that they play roles, and which role you play, that decision is left to yourself. But don't whine about reactions caused by your actions... defining the role of your play and how other ppl will play you. ^^

 

[commie]

Hehe..

The server right now is really interesting.
All the worthless guilds are teaming up in a huge alliance.
They are all bigger then us in numbers but they know they have no chance at all to ebat us, so they try to zerg with half the server.

The interesting thing is that 9/10 times you die is from one of those guilds camping a telekeep or the jordheim exit or something.
If you meet them oin the field, you win. So they try to get you while lagging

Tight now besides trying to run survive the initil minute of transport while moving from zone to zone the only challenge is fighting War Legendz who seems to be a skilled and organized crew. And no camping by them.

See you in a few days when our last players have their epics done. Then the zerg of lowlives will learn real terror (wow, im kewl ).

And as stated before.
STFU about talking shit to Xanatea all the time. He OWNS ur ass.

 

[darbey]

Yawn...... Were u owned again?

 

[solothores]

He should better not own my silly kobold ass... since I am definitly more interested into females...
And what the hell does "STFU" mean? Please speak english... or is your native language german too?

This game is not about beating things up... at least there is somewhere a "RPG"-element which implicates that there should be a bit more then pure "Beat 'em up"... it's easy to tag guilds as worthless, however I am more interested to know what guilds exactly you call worthless... and I am sure some others too, but I bet you don't have the guts to name them here...

Well as I said it's easy to call out war against all guilds on camlann and afterwards whine about that half of the server is zerging you back. If you didn't take that into account in your master plan, I am really sorry for you but it's your own damn fault and you do nothing else then whine about the results from your own actions.

Let's get to the lag-argument... if we take into account that ppl lag while you lag... there is an even situation if they slaughter you while lag... it means well you certainly are a bad lag-player... however... we don't want to take into consideration, system configuration, amount of ppl involved, level scale of those players, if those players have been surprised, if you have realm abilities, equipment of the players etc before we start to "own" ppl do we If you own a Toyota with your Ferrari you certainly do own a lot *g*

Zerging lowlives is really cool... I have to admit that I didn't expect any different behaviour. Furthermore I assume that as soon as the server gets on the same level scale... and wipes on your side start to increase...

 

[dullah]

[/quote]Ahh, you mean we get caught up by the Epic-Millenium-Cutting Edge-Arans Circle-Ars Necandi-Avalanche etc alliance? =)))

NP vs WL vs The rest
All guilds in that alliance suck, and they just proved it to the rest by allying up with every guild they see =)
Only WL and NP is good. Rest is just fetlollade slan

[/quote]

agree

we got good fights against NP, groups vs groups and solo vs solo,

np got skilled players, millenium aran etc got newbies

 

[Flimgoblin]

Originally posted by commie


The interesting thing is that 9/10 times you die is from one of those guilds camping a telekeep or the jordheim exit or something.
If you meet them oin the field, you win. So they try to get you while lagging

That would be tactics

 

[dullah]

but rofl thats so true

half of server vs 80 WL vs 60 NP

Alliances are an excuse to zerg

 

[darbey]

Originally posted by dullah

Ahh, you mean we get caught up by the Epic-Millenium-Cutting Edge-Arans Circle-Ars Necandi-Avalanche etc alliance? =)))

NP vs WL vs The rest
All guilds in that alliance suck, and they just proved it to the rest by allying up with every guild they see =)
Only WL and NP is good. Rest is just fetlollade slan

[/quote]

agree

we got good fights against NP, groups vs groups and solo vs solo,

np got skilled players, millenium aran etc got newbies [/QUOTE]

Yet another player graduating from the school of talking Bollocks !!

I ask you again - why does it make you skillful because u have 20+ levels against your opponents?

Make sure you get some little handles on the soles of your shoes so we can pull you out of NP buttt you are kissing.

 

[ab_fluid]

Originally posted by commie
Hehe..

The server right now is really interesting.
All the worthless guilds are teaming up in a huge alliance.
They are all bigger then us in numbers but they know they have no chance at all to ebat us, so they try to zerg with half the server.

The interesting thing is that 9/10 times you die is from one of those guilds camping a telekeep or the jordheim exit or something.
If you meet them oin the field, you win. So they try to get you while lagging

Tight now besides trying to run survive the initil minute of transport while moving from zone to zone the only challenge is fighting War Legendz who seems to be a skilled and organized crew. And no camping by them.

See you in a few days when our last players have their epics done. Then the zerg of lowlives will learn real terror (wow, im kewl ).

And as stated before.
STFU about talking shit to Xanatea all the time. He OWNS ur ass.

Whats the bollocks ur talkign about camping base towns camping pk's and jordheim etc? i have seen no1 worse for it than NP, all day long u hear death spam by a different NP chanter killing greys in df or at mag mel or somewhere like it. Look at your own guild and their actions before you abuse others.

 

[)nick(]

The skill in the top guilds is a mixture of highly disciplined/dedicated individuals (read; having no life if you're narrow minded), incredible team playing and great organisation.

Grey ganking happens but very rarely how do you think a guild levels so fast if they spend all their time pking greys.

PVP is great fun and it's only just started. Most of you people who hurl childish slurs at the top guilds had already made your mind up about us before the 3rd of december. We're not in it for the greys we're in it for the competition with the other guilds who fit the description above, just like the competition between realms on the normal servers.

No matter what we say you'd still hate our guts. If it's one thing stubborn people have then it's stamina.

 

[solothores]

Even if Nolby Pride & WaR LegenDz would team up, it wouldn't change anything... only difference is, that instead of half of the server, the whole server would team up against them... and then? Search another "worthless" guild to team up with to keep that green/blue con scum zerg under control... at the end you will find yourself in a position being an alliance-zerg member just only to survive. Remember that every kill is keept in rememberance... guilds which con grey or green or even blue and get ganked by fg's of orange/reds/purples will not forget this. They will not forget the tag bellow the name... And ppl can state as much as they want that they don't gank greys in forums... those ppl who actually got ganked while gray ingame, will remember that.

Latest when they con yellow it's payback time for them or even before if they have the mass to reach their goal which is your death. And they will not deliver you the fair fight you hope to get, since you didn't deliver them a fair fight in the beginning. They simply want revenge...

Your concept guild vs. guild only works if everyone is on the same level scale... and has the same amount of members, but in reality it is not. So ppl will feel getting ganked anyway, neitherless what you do. Especially if you only have lev50's while everyone else is still lower con. Good Group vs. Group fights will happen as soon as we proceed to the stage that we have a living Guild broadband, with pretty much similiar member counts... and level ranges and different conflicts. But don't hope to get fair group vs. group fights if you gank lower con ppl, since you allready deliver them a fight with no chance for them to win. So you just provoke getting Zerged. Which at the end just escalates.

You decided to row against the stream and wanted to get the level advantage by getting as high as possible as fast as possible, congratulations to that... you archieved that goal, you certainly leveled faster than anyone else, but as you may have learned not everyone defines DAoC on the same principles as you do... there are ppl who love to use diplomatics... who socialise with other guilds etc. And they actually spent the same amount into this, as you did for leveling. They protect themselves by numbers, while you protect yourself by level. So you have to face the appropriate problems now that there is no one which can deal you a fair fight and get along with that problem. Adapt yourself to the new situation or you will change from hunter to prey.

If you slaughter ppl, ppl will team up trying to slaughter you. Since they are not brainless exp Mobs, who fight battles which they cannot win. Killing lower con groups is not skill, it is not ownage it is just a reason for victims to take revenge. And if the enemy is to big for getting layed singlehanded, well then other victims will teamup against you. That is just the way it works.

Read the Andred forums and see how long purple con players survive nowadays without group, before they get ganked by grey hords in the towns etc. PPl are adapting. If ppl are sick of spending money into constitution etc. well just teamup against purples, a gray has nothing to lose, other way around for the poor purple victim.

While some guilds decided to exp to lev50 before they start PvP'ing like they did on the old traditional RvR_Servers, some players/guilds actually understood that you don't have to be 50 to play this game... the game starts at lev1, and if you think that you don't have to rely on the help of others... well it's your fault then and not ours. But don't blame others for taking all possibilites this new server is offering to them. Just face it.

 

[)nick(]

Originally posted by solothores
Even if Nolby Pride & WaR LegenDz would team up, it wouldn't change anything... only difference is, that instead of half of the server, the whole server would team up against them... and then? Search another "worthless" guild to team up with to keep that green/blue con scum zerg under control... at the end you will find yourself in a position being an alliance-zerg member just only to survive. Remember that every kill is keept in rememberance... guilds which con grey or green or even blue and get ganked by fg's of orange/reds/purples will not forget this. They will not forget the tag bellow the name... And ppl can state as much as they want that they don't gank greys in forums... those ppl who actually got ganked while gray ingame, will remember that.

It's a matter of principles when you talk about allying yourself with another guild, the PVP server doesn't support alliances the same way rvr servers do. In my opinion alliances create zergs and just about everyone on the servers has spoken out against zergs. Also you're talking as if there's an infite amount of people who are anti/neutrals, only time will tell if this is true or not but I seriously have my doubts.

As far as the alliance zerg is concerned this is already the case with most of the neutral guilds on camlann in an alliance, they just disguise it as a NAP. These 'alliances' were setup before we even hit 50, you see us as a threat because of our reputation on another server NOT because we have, allegedly, been ganking greys.

Originally posted by solothores
Latest when they con yellow it's payback time for them or even before if they have the mass to reach their goal which is your death. And they will not deliver you the fair fight you hope to get, since you didn't deliver them a fair fight in the beginning. They simply want revenge...

That's a nice generalisation on your part. So basically we'll end up in a vicious circle whereby the alliances just get larger and larger untill everyone suddenly likes each other because they're to afraid to attack eachother. Very simplistic way of looking at things

Originally posted by solothores
Your concept guild vs. guild only works if everyone is on the same level scale... and has the same amount of members, but in reality it is not. So ppl will feel getting ganked anyway, neitherless what you do. Especially if you only have lev50's while everyone else is still lower con. Good Group vs. Group fights will happen as soon as we proceed to the stage that we have a living Guild broadband, with pretty much similiar member counts... and level ranges and different conflicts. But don't hope to get fair group vs. group fights if you gank lower con ppl, since you allready deliver them a fight with no chance for them to win. So you just provoke getting Zerged. Which at the end just escalates..

Exceptions aside I'd say most guilds have an even amount of, give or take 40, members online at any given time. We've already had plenty of equal fights with the 'better' guilds on this server. We have our goals you have yours. I just think we'll meet our goals a lot sooner than you will because of our superior qualities as a guild which I highlighted in my post above.

Originally posted by solothores
Read the Andred forums and see how long purple con players survive nowadays without group, before they get ganked by grey hords in the towns etc. PPl are adapting. If ppl are sick of spending money into constitution etc. well just teamup against purples, a gray has nothing to lose, other way around for the poor purple victim.

So we're being told NOT to gank greys but it's perfectly fair for them to gank us if the chance arises. I'm sure you'll agree with me that's a ridiculous double standard.

If you look at PVP history the lesser/slower guilds start out as neutral to have an easier way to level up and then change to PK because they've finally made up the levels and getting bored. We've chosen the route of not lying to ourselves and take the arguably harder path. There are no clear cut policies on PVP in the end the server is there to be dominated by a faction and I'll be damned if this one doesn't turn out like all the others.

So far there have been A LOT more internal problems in the lesser/neutral/anti guilds than in the top guilds so I'd say we're doing pretty well.

A lot of it might sound conceited, but this is PVP so get used to it

woo 200th post!

/em strokes the relics

 

[sorusi]

Could you please shut up about all the red con bullshit? you still have to hit bonus its not like in the old days when a red con could own a fg w/o problems and skills... No you can land mezz etc just as good as they can land on you only differance is that they have higher cap/spells etc so stop the bullshit about Con on players..

Dont give me any shit that you rabbits gotta zerg cos ppl are higher lvls cos to hit modifier is there for you even if its a red guy And you can allways lvl instead of pking greys like you seem to waste your time on yourself ?

 

[solothores]

....... These 'alliances' were setup before we even hit 50, you see us as a threat because of our reputation on another server NOT because we have, allegedly, been ganking greys.

Nolby Pride pretty much acts like "conquest" this makes you the threat. The rhetorical question here is, what will Nolby Pride do at lev50, I doubt that you will stay at your keep stroking your relics all day long - waiting untill everyone is the same level, will you?

That's a nice generalisation on your part. So basically we'll end up in a vicious circle whereby the alliances just get larger and larger untill everyone suddenly likes each other because they're to afraid to attack eachother. Very simplistic way of looking at things

It is your interpretation of my words which simplifies things here. and generalism is a human tendency... most of the ppl do it, even you, in your statement above this one. Maybe you should point out more in detail why my words lead to a simplistic way of looking at things?

Exceptions aside I'd say most guilds have an even amount of, give or take 40, members online at any given time. We've already had plenty of equal fights with the 'better' guilds on this server. We have our goals you have yours. I just think we'll meet our goals a lot sooner than you will because of our superior qualities as a guild which I highlighted in my post above

This is something only time will show. "Better" guilds or "Better" prey? Couldn't resist to react on your suggestive approach here to attract ppl from your point of view, as I said allready before name things or leave them. So if you speak of "Better" guilds name them.

So we're being told NOT to gank greys but it's perfectly fair for them to gank us if the chance arises. I'm sure you'll agree with me that's a ridiculous double standard.

If you look at PVP history the lesser/slower guilds start out as neutral to have an easier way to level up and then change to PK because they've finally made up the levels and getting bored. We've chosen the route of not lying to ourselves and take the arguably harder path. There are no clear cut policies on PVP in the end the server is there to be dominated by a faction and I'll be damned if this one doesn't turn out like all the others.

So far there have been A LOT more internal problems in the lesser/neutral/anti guilds than in the top guilds so I'd say we're doing pretty well.

That statement on which you depend your argument on is there, to highlight how ppl adapt their playing style. If grays get ganked, they will start to gank you, if they get the chance to do it. If you gank them more, they will gank you more. I agree with you, that there is definitly no clear cut policy which dictates anyone for anything. However fact is that ppl from nolby pride started to blame ppl for teaming against them in this thread. Well I tried to give you some insight into why ppl actually team up against a guild like you or WaR LegenDz. I don't know who tells you, to not gank grays... I don't do. I just point out what it means playing the purple con in a mmorpg. What the results could be from my experience in bashing lower con's, while you are the highest on the server. And that obviously some of your members didn't expect how guilds react on this and how the situation would be for them, and now blame everyone with pathetic meanings like: "no skill, lame, worthless".

A lot of it might sound conceited, but this is PVP so get used to it

Whatever~~

 

[solothores]

Could you please shut up about all the red con bullshit? you still have to hit bonus its not like in the old days when a red con could own a fg w/o problems and skills... No you can land mezz etc just as good as they can land on you only differance is that they have higher cap/spells etc so stop the bullshit about Con on players..

Dont give me any shit that you rabbits gotta zerg cos ppl are higher lvls cos to hit modifier is there for you even if its a red guy And you can allways lvl instead of pking greys like you seem to waste your time on yourself ?

I'm getting flamed... uh oh ... when did I step on your tail, puppy? You look tired maybe you should get some sleep, since I really think you didn't read my words the correct way. ;>

 

[Flanx]

Originally posted by commie

The interesting thing is that 9/10 times you die is from one of those guilds camping a telekeep or the jordheim exit or something.
If you meet them oin the field, you win. So they try to get you while lagging

See you in a few days when our last players have their epics done. Then the zerg of lowlives will learn real terror (wow, im kewl ).

MMM well interesting comments.
Noted today-
NP camp Mularn and Vasudheim exits
NP camp Fort Atla Bind Stone.
NP camp DF Mid Entrance Rezz killing
NP Camp Audliten Bridge AOEing Horses
Look to Yourselfs First mate.

Only 1 Nolby at the moment has any respect by me
cant remember his name exactly but he was a Skald at Vasudheim Exit. (Name began with T)
He played with me Mezzing/Stunning, Asked me 'Who is the Best'.
My Reply of course was 'Whoever can win a Challenging Fight'
He then left me alone.
and there is the crux of what most lower level people are thinking.
NP we have no respect for you as You Level Fast then think you Ownorz People because you can win a Piss Easy fight.
Respect is given to those that win those fights that are not easy
or as in my example show the brains to realise when a fight is absolutely bloody pointless.

I expect to get Ganked I live with it.
I remember those that gank me.
If they are still around when I can gank them I will. (Be a Long time as its hard work Leveling and living that thing called Real Life)

A lot of us Cannot devote 23/7 to DaoC like the PwrGmrs.
Being lvl 50 because you can devote this time means nothing.
PwrGmrs this doesnt mean your good, just you can put more time in.
The Bullies on this server will bugger off eventually when People reach an equal footing and there Easy Prey is no more.
(I Expect this is why Xanatea said NP will leave in about 2 months)

/respect to all those who level while the NP Uber Grey Gank Squad roams Ownoring easy prey.
/respect to anyone that actually has 'Challenging Fights' and doesn't think RP's mean you Are #1

 

[Linulo]

I think the whole discussion is just based on different conceptions about the idea of a PvP server. Some think it's about killing what can be killed. Others think of it like a small society where you have your friends and your enemies.

Yes, NP leveled fast and owns many other guild's groups. You don't need guts to do so but hey, it's ok. But don't whine when every non-PK guild has NP kos and begins to catch up levelwise. Life may become less easy for PKs and NP may at some time try to make an arrangement with the guilds they owned in the first two weeks. Don't expect any of these guilds to ever cooperate.

The NP policy worked well until now, but it is sure not to work much longer. The fun NP had in the beginning and the lack thereof for their victims will turn - matter of time, nothing more.

 

[)nick(]

Ofcourse there is a flipside to that. At the moment we hardly get the chance to kill people as we don't kill unguilded grey. Soon we will have an abundance of people to kill. The Pks reign has only just begun. Yes, maybe 3 months down the line everyone has caught up in levels, but don't forget we grow stronger to with higher RAs and better equipment it's not like we played a week and then gave up.

Everbody said the same about NP on excalibur when they were the only lvl 50s and then they still dominated RVR later on. There have been a lot of assumptions made purely because people were jealous or didn't like us, who now when proved wrong resort to childish insults.

Whatever happens it's definitely going to be an interesting time on camlann.

 

[Linulo]

Originally posted by -nicolas-
There have been a lot of assumptions made purely because people were jealous or didn't like us, who now when proved wrong resort to childish insults.

There is a difference between not liking somebody for no reason and not liking somebody for belonging to a gank-greys-24/7-guild. Only time will tell who will have the harder time (my bet still is NP).

 

[StormriderX]

Originally posted by old.XanateA
We will not kill unguilded greys unless provoked to do so...

We will kill Unguilded and guilded people green con+.

Complete and utter bs unless lv15s and so on con green to 50

 

[dullah]

whine more please