No wonder hib/prydwen is so empty.

[loesje]

dont see the problems with the fin4 groups?

leveled 6 chars to 50 there of wich 3 the hard way and 3 the easy focuspulling way.

I must say both methods work and both are boring to a degree. but face it getting xp at high levels takes time and only the group makes it bearable.

I always have had a lot of fun at fin4 usually get a spot pretty quickly and if not i just play an alt till i am needed.

As for lvl 50's bringing alts I see no problem with that if the group agrees with it and it dont hurt the flow of xp.

Basis of a good focuspull grp is a high level manachanter, druid, bard, and 2 casters. so there is enough room for variation

in 1 weekend i was witness to about 10 people dinging 50 at fin4 while i was in the group. (as lvl 50 focuspuller with alt) I personally would never bring my alt to fin4 below level 35/40 as corus is much faster xp

mosttimes we had 2 tank (can be shades or rangers to) in the group. Only bad listkeepers / groupleaders can screw up a good time at fin4. On the other hand a fair and good lk/gl is a blessing for the flow of xp and fun. (salute thoo/xcel as you have made the past few fingroups a great experience)

 

[old.Cher]

Bah wish we could have let this thread slide, and slowly disapear, but alas this seems to not be the case,

so a recap of the thread, many people are tossers at fins, many people like fins, and many people hate them.

thats sorted this thread out

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

Originally posted by old.Cher
Bah wish we could have let this thread slide, and slowly disapear, but alas this seems to not be the case,

You'll find that not bumping the thread might help

 

[old.Cher]

it was already top thread when i posted, can't bump an already top thread, like now for instance.

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

But you seem to want it to stay on top.

 

[old.Cher]

i just like talking to u gombur,

will u be my friend?

 

[Ravenbourne]

Same problem on exc/hib, mythic need to do someting about it

quote/
Memories of me kissing the floor of Muire Tombs along with 6 others peeps, joking about how dusty the floor was and stuff, and looking back to see a level 12 druid running slowly towards you with his little Lynx, and /sending you, "Hey mate, I'm back for ya".
dam right,

 

[Laston]

shortie

hmm il make it short

hate cf

hate F*** they stink

hate being bored



hence why im still lv 46 warden and has been for looooong time

 

[amazingsteve]

I´m a lvl 45 warden. 2 days ago i was level 42. I never went to 4fins. I went Stag hunting, Darkness Falls, Sheeroe Hills, all good xp outside 4fins, a lot more fun and a lot better stuff

screw 4fins, I´m boycotting it

 

[Jonaldo]

I would also boycott anyone who supports the focus pull groups which were the final nail in my coffin as far as Hib/Pryd was concerned. Nothing but negativity there, no conversation, no learning new tricks and ways to play your character. Just way too mechanical overall and it's not even a game then, may aswell just get a robot to do it or the game to play itself if you want to play that way.

I play games for fun and variation, not to sit in silence, bored out of my skull doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again. Before anyone says it.. no, xping DOESN'T have to be like that.

 

[Cush]

Originally posted by Omniscieous
just get a robot to do it

Where can i get one of those??

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Not everyone xp`s like that, though, Cornell.

I get three or four "spot free at 4fins, m8" a night ... "I am fully light specced, though" ... "k ill page u"...
Those folks usually go on /ignore right after.

I spent the last two nights pushing cliff dwellers in Moher around and had a blast. One doesn't have to xp at 4fins - so saying that you left Hibernia because of 4fin groups is a tad lame.

 

[Surgeon-Elite]

Focus Pulling in pryden hib is a MAJOR problem. I personally only wanted to play a hero on hibernia but trying to get a grp at 40+ is a nightmare. I know there are other places to xp but the server is soo bloody empty that even when i PM all the classes close to my lvl to form a sheereo grp i often fail to build it. Oh and then when we get the grp running after ages calling up ppl the lvl 45 mana chanter buggers off cos he got a PM saying come to fins4.

Really wanting a hero bad i fookin soloed everyday for almost a week b4 thinking WTF is up with this? and moved back to midgard. Focus pulling makes tanks redundant... have u any idea how many tanks quit and roll a manachanter just so they can lvl? Its a sad day in any realm when the main Tank class has less chance to find a grp then an assasin in other realms. My friggin shadowblade had a way easier life... wouldn't u feel bitter about that?

Anyway unless u just want to play in a server filled with casters and healer classes (someone got to heal the pets during focus) something needs to be done. Tanks ARE needed in hib... infact hib tanks rock

Btw i dont really give a shit too much now since i am lvling my warden on other acc and will grp with him if thats the only way to reach 50 but for the sake of the server we need to change.

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

It will be alot better once people realize that you don't need a manachanter in your group to level.

Pull, mez, peel is still a good enough tactic as long as you have a fun conversation and a good laugh between pulls.

 

[old.Gromnir]

And doing a Pull, Mez, Kill first, kill neaxt, kill last, rest, pull, mez ..... - You might learn something also. Because those focus pulls dosent realy work in RvR ... now I know most casters know this, but what about bards i'v seen bard in RvR who just stod and waited for the group to kill of the invaders while he infact could have Lulled/mezzed/aoemezzed insted.

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

*remembers the Bard of 42 seasons in Corus Mines who didn't have a clue how to mez... *

I don't group very often unless it's with my guildies but the ammount of powerlevelled tossers who don't know shit about their class is amazing.

 

[old.Trulla]

Originally posted by amazingsteve
I´m a lvl 45 warden. 2 days ago i was level 42. I never went to 4fins. I went Stag hunting, Darkness Falls, Sheeroe Hills, all good xp outside 4fins, a lot more fun and a lot better stuff

screw 4fins, I´m boycotting it

actually u can get 3-4 levels a day after 40 if u go 4fins

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by Uncle Sick(tm)
One doesn't have to xp at 4fins - so saying that you left Hibernia because of 4fin groups is a tad lame.

And saying I'm lame because you say I said something I clearly didn't is a tad lamer.

Touché

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Originally posted by Omniscieous
I blow billygoats.

I just like to push buttons.

*riposte*

 

[Jonaldo]

But I really do blow billygoats!

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Bondage!!!

 

[Jonaldo]

note the carpet burns on the knees, slightly dazed eyes and smug but subtley pleased with itself grin..

 

[osy]

so um, we can sum up hib/pry as billygoat lovers ?

Ontopic, I have an ickle luwikeen on your server... she's level 12, and very, very disorientated. Please help her find a home...

*blinks at Sickie*

 

[old.Cher]

its sad that barely any new players that have went through the four fin, or focus pull groups know what to do, and even worse when they ignore advice from another player in there class.

almost no new bards know how good amnesia is in rvr, almost no chanter knows how to use pbaoe defensively to protect healers and other mages, and no tanks..... well just plainly no tanks!

o how i laugh seeing the deathspam from the clueless children of the focus pull, and then i cry as hibernia slips further into darkness

 

[old.Trulla]

Originally posted by old.Cher
its sad that barely any new players that have went through the four fin, or focus pull groups know what to do, and even worse when they ignore advice from another player in there class.

almost no new bards know how good amnesia is in rvr, almost no chanter knows how to use pbaoe defensively to protect healers and other mages, and no tanks..... well just plainly no tanks!

o how i laugh seeing the deathspam from the clueless children of the focus pull, and then i cry as hibernia slips further into darkness

what a bunch of crap.. how many of the ppl at fins play their first char ever? U really think its hard to play a chanter in rvr?? or hard to play any other caster for that matter? the skill is about finding out what classes the enemies are and pick which target to go for first.. and that has nothing to do with playing a chanter/caster

If u have ever done any rvr at all u know this.. espec since u are dependent on it.. being a non 50 stealther and all

 

[old.Cher]

hmmm, its that attitude that causes all chanters to run in and pbaoe, they break mezz's on about 50 guys, get stunned, and we all die......

you need to bloody know how to play your class, but i guess u are part of the "i'm lvl 50 i know all camp"

 

[old.Trulla]

Originally posted by old.Cher
hmmm, its that attitude that causes all chanters to run in and pbaoe, they break mezz's on about 50 guys, get stunned, and we all die......

you need to bloody know how to play your class, but i guess u are part of the "i'm lvl 50 i know all camp"

ofc there are ppl that cant play their class right.. there always are.. but they are not the product of focus pulling..

 

[old.Gromnir]

I'd hate to have a person in my group going "Hey I just learned that if I mezz the invaders you wont all die !?!" or a chanter going " Hey I just figured that I cant go AoE on the mezzed guys because then the mezz will break"

But I take it you learn that along the way of your endless trips to emain. I'd prefer to learn to control my chars before I go RvR with them, on the other hand I kind of dislikes RvR because hibs tend for go solo even in groups and when the shit hits the fan they are all over the place and are picked of one by one.


Trulla: If u have ever done any rvr at all u know this.. espec since u are dependent on it.. being a non 50 stealther and all <-- what a bunch of crap..

I dont want to defend Cher as I believe he is well armed to do that, but please you dont get good at RvR just because you have a level 50 char.

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Originally posted by old.Trulla
but they are not the product of focus pulling..

Sure they are. A bard who actually plays his character from 5-50ish knows how to mez and when to use amnesia.

Powerlevelling creates level 50 n00bs.
And "teh best pl givf focus groups".


Osy - check your pm's.

 

[old.Trulla]

Originally posted by old.Gromnir
I'd hate to have a person in my group going "Hey I just learned that if I mezz the invaders you wont all die !?!" or a chanter going " Hey I just figured that I cant go AoE on the mezzed guys because then the mezz will break"

You say u would hate it, u didnt say it actually happened, how many noobs do think u can find now after >1h of daoc euro??

Trulla: If u have ever done any rvr at all u know this.. espec since u are dependent on it.. being a non 50 stealther and all <-- what a bunch of crap..

If you are able to do whats expected from u, which is quite simple imo.. the skill about daoc is in what order you should take out the classes.. and to do this u need to recognize them.. u are saying that this is not so? this skill cant be trained up by killing mobs at all

I dont want to defend Cher as I believe he is well armed to do that, but please you dont get good at RvR just because you have a level 50 char.

And who said u did? I am just saying the skill needed to do decent rvr is not much, the skill I am talking about is rvr trainable only, therefor focus pulling != bad at rvr