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Aloca

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One of the Hibs asked about Savages. According to Mackey, Savages got off easy. Mackey wanted to nerf them much harder. "They need more nerfing."
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But right now, in Mackey's opinion, Determination needs to be nerfed, and he can't nerf it enough. He's not sure how yet. A lot of the things they're doing with MLA's is to put up some speed bumps to keep fights from going quite so fast, amid concerns about the fact that many players can go from 2000 range to in a caster's face incredibly quickly
http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=58249949&replies=57


It continues on the next pages also



And ofc if you read it all you will notice that the person that is incharge of balancing does use alot of Buffbots
 
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Divinia

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I asked why they decided never to go back and change what was a primary/secondary/tertiary stat for certain classes (Friars, Paladins). Matt responded that they had tried to do that with bards but that 100% of the feedback they received was negative about the decision, so they've decided not to try that again.

they still dont realise what we're asking for :/
 
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zoia

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Spike said it was painfully obvious which RA's are broken, because no one has them (Skald, Friar).
It's good to know they know my special RA sucks. :D

He said most stealthers tend to be very skilled players.
:ROFLMAO:
 
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zlair

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Wouldnt it be funnier, if u travelled faster on the roads, and more slowly in the different kinds of tarrain ?

ie. like we do it water... ?
 
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Silenzio

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yess if

Faster than now on road...

like now on grass...



nothing slower pls
 
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envenom

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most stealthers are skilled players i mean if you think about it we've probably had the most experiance of duels/1on1 then any other class in the game except for the warder infils ofc
 
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BidAccount

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Originally posted by envenom
most stealthers are skilled players i mean if you think about it we've probably had the most experiance of duels/1on1 then any other class in the game except for the warder infils ofc

At least they started at rr1, rather than buying their char on ebay....
 
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Ozands

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Originally posted by zoia
He said most stealthers tend to be very skilled players.


:ROFLMAO:



Have u ever played a Stealther at high lvl ? if u havend stfu
 
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Carlos Bananos

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stealther isn't any harder than any other class rofl


infact, SB + Infil (aint played NS so can't say) are v.easy compared to other classes...Especially support classes.
 
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belth

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
stealther isn't any harder than any other class rofl


infact, SB + Infil (aint played NS so can't say) are v.easy compared to other classes...Especially support classes.

What he said.
 
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belth

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Infact, grouped PvE is more difficult than 1v1 fights :eek:
 
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zoia

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Originally posted by Ozands
Have u ever played a Stealther at high lvl ? if u havend stfu
He said MOST stealthers.
To me most stealthers are rr2-3, well buffed and are camping milegates leeching of fg fights and taking out soloers with their friends.
Of course there are skilled stealthers out there, but there are skilled people of every class.
 
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Nebel

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Originally posted by envenom
most stealthers are skilled players i mean if you think about it we've probably had the most experiance of duels/1on1 then any other class in the game except for the warder infils ofc

rofl :)
 
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Gordonax

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On buffbots:

The response was Mackey wants to reward people who are specced Aug/Enhance/Nurture, and reward groups for having a real player in the group instead of back at the PK.

:clap:
 
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Aussie-

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos

infact, SB + Infil (aint played NS so can't say) are v.easy compared to other classes...Especially support classes.

you mean that class that sprints all the time and presses pbaoe interrupt or do you mean that class that spams spreadheal combined with his 15 insta abilities :]
 
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hotrat

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Originally posted by Silenzio
yess if

Faster than now on road...

like now on grass...



nothing slower pls
Hmmm speed 5 and sprint is already way too fast for my liking, if anything roaming speed needs to be decreased, terrain should definately play more of a part in rvr though.

Stealther can be thought of as skilled with respect to fighting the right targets the right way, but a one on one will never be as hard as a 8 vs 8. So many variables in a 8 vs 8, each fight is very different and sometimes requires huge adaptations in your play style in order to win.

From VN Boards
One of the things they're thinking about is taking the class-specific RA and making five levels of it. Examples included Group Purge and Bunker of Faith
Good idea, so many RA's need to be looked at, especially determination which they also mention.
Mackey did say they've learned a great deal about the game since release. For instance, if they had to do it all again, not all hib casters would have baseline stun.

On necros, Mackey said that they're not planning to nerf them anytime soon becuase "There are so many damn bugs with that class" that they don't know what it functions like when not bugged. He wants to focus in the next couple patches on fixing bugs in classes.
Interesting post indeed, nice that you linked it to BW :)
 
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Silenzio

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Originally posted by Ozands
Have u ever played a Stealther at high lvl ? if u havend stfu


i nice to see ppl ov the same realm been so kind each others

sad to say... zoia have a good reputation... in all 3 realms...
what bout u?
 
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Ozands

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
stealther isn't any harder than any other class rofl


infact, SB + Infil (aint played NS so can't say) are v.easy compared to other classes...Especially support classes.


I can imagine its really hard to play a support class in a FOTM guild/group
 
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old.Xanthian

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Playing a stealther is about as hard as keeping a caster alive in fg rvr.
Telling envenom he has skills was a big mistake imo :p
 
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belth

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Originally posted by old.Xanthian
Playing a stealther is about as hard as keeping a caster alive in fg rvr.

So, is this pb-box with BAoD every 10 minutes or non-hib casters? :p
 
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old.Xanthian

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Originally posted by belth
So, is this pb-box with BAoD every 10 minutes or non-hib casters? :p

You obviously have NO idea at all.
 
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Whisperess

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Originally posted by Divinia
I asked why they decided never to go back and change what was a primary/secondary/tertiary stat for certain classes (Friars, Paladins). Matt responded that they had tried to do that with bards but that 100% of the feedback they received was negative about the decision, so they've decided not to try that again.

they still dont realise what we're asking for :/
Guessing you're after say dexterity raising instead of empathy as secondary stat?
Can't see why you shouldn't get this, as empathy does nothing for you - I ask; What was the 100% negative feedback they received?

Having empathy as secondary is like putting int as secondary for warriors instead of con.

Same with quickness as tertiary stat for casters :| ( mostly think they put that in due to con being too good for a caster )
 
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belth

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Originally posted by old.Xanthian
You obviously have NO idea at all.

Now why is it that Alb/Mid caster-groups aren't as "viable" as hib ones... That's right.

How many buttons does a stealther need when fighting? 3 pretty much covers it.
 
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Whisperess

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Originally posted by belth
How many buttons does a stealther need when fighting? 3 pretty much covers it.
lol, you clearly don't have a clue at all :D
 
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belth

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Originally posted by Whisperess
lol, you clearly don't have a clue at all :D

What else do you need than your evade-style, anytime and some other style after the evade-style? If you mean strafing, weapon-switching, RA-buttons, those don't count.

Oh wait, you need to buff yourself :D
 
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vintervargen

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Originally posted by Ozands
Have u ever played a Stealther at high lvl ? if u havend stfu

have you ever played a grp char beyong rr3? if u havnt stfu
 
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Whisperess

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Originally posted by belth
What else do you need than your evade-style, anytime and some other style after the evade-style? If you mean strafing, weapon-switching, RA-buttons, those don't count.

Oh wait, you need to buff yourself :D
garrote, achillies, havoc, tyrs, comeback, frosty gaze, hamstring, leaper, rib seperation, PA, CD, stunning stab, bs2, thigh cut.

add to that stealth, a multitude of poisons and RA's and weaponswitching and you're looking at 2-3 QB's - not 2-3 buttons.

( and I know nobody will have -all- those styles, they depend on specs - for my spec remove havoc/tyrs and comeback/frosty )
 
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etcetra

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Originally posted by zoia
It's good to know they know my special RA sucks. :D

And thanes one rocks!!!! STUN IMMUNITY! 4TEHWIN!
 

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