New server types !

[Javai]

Yeah like you said, people dont go to those places to have fg fights, people (even us) go there to get the even easier rp's than the group we just killed was, there isnt some steady flow of decent fg's coming to a remote place, no one wants to play a game that is boring so during the "fg downtime" we go kill some randoms, pretty simple?

Simple yes, I understand it completely. It just flies in the face of every comment made here about wanting fg vs fg action and then slagging off and insulting anyone who 'adds' on 'your' fights.

(Not referring to you in particular but the 'fg vs fg' set in general)

And if you are gonna go and farm easy rps don't be surprised when we form zergs to counter it, or add on the fights that occur where we have just been killed.

 

[Ballard]

Island came it sucked ppl went back to NF. on US that is

:O The island rocked! it was awesome fun...

 

[Eleasias]

Simple yes, I understand it completely. It just flies in the face of every comment made here about wanting fg vs fg action and then slagging off and insulting anyone who 'adds' on 'your' fights.

(Not referring to you in particular but the 'fg vs fg' set in general)

And if you are gonna go and farm easy rps don't be surprised when we form zergs to counter it, or add on the fights that occur where we have just been killed.

I want fg vs fg action, no doubt about that, but fg vs fg only is not something that can keep me occupied all night simply because there arent many fg's to fight. Adding from "randoms" (for lack of a better word) I can completely understand and have no trouble with, but people who ACT (and only act) l337 as you say, such as Konah, some GoL people etc. who keep on adding and still believe anyone takes them as a "serious group" or even as anything else than pure rp cows. I'm not saying we never add but way less than most.

 

[Vodkafairy]

people talk as much shit about the gg's as gg's talk shit about randoms

we always go to a remotely quiet spot away from the zerg areas, yesterday we played only to fight np, tt, gol and some fc mix group. never went to bridge to farm anything except clear up people that camped there for ages and charged DC so we couldn't buff in peace

if the other gg's really don't come looking for us (hint hint, zapstar) then we'll go to more zergy areas yeah - and getting added on there is only to be expected..

this isn't old emain anymore where you can chain farm all the groups running out of apk.. was good rps but current rvr is much more challenging.

 

[Indrid]

Thats becouse most leet grps doesnt want to fight other leet grps. They claim they do but what they realy want is to fight noobs and lots of them for easy rps so they can flex their epeen.
Always been like that, whine on the zerg but search it up every time you rvr.

your wrong here m8. When we ran old blizzard groups or old groove groups, we had like 2-4 players that was rr 11, no need of new rps, cause they get nothing but the fun/action. ATleast from my point of view, a good fight is worth more than the rps you get.

 

[Javai]

this isn't old emain anymore where you can chain farm all the groups running out of apk.. was good rps but current rvr is much more challenging.

Going off at a slight tangent but a part of the reason you can now go and have your challenging fg fights is thanks to the RAs gained by farming the 'randoms' in OF (obviously some have rerolled but a significant proportion have not). You don't get rr11/rr12 by only killing other fgs, when you get there you have the luxury of choice.

I was not really referring to Hibs 'fgs' in my post I have far bigger issues with the ones in my own realm who managed last week to reduce me tears (yeah yeah I'm not very thick skinned) when I had not even left the very small area around Beno. Earlier in the same week someone I won't name joined my bg and threatened to steal artifacts from us because we were trying to retake Erasleigh. Or take the person who PM'd 'die plz' to me for 'adding' on a fight at Beno docks. It is this behaviour that generates such bad feeling towards 'fgs', I don't know if it happens in other realms, but I imagine it does as many of those involved play alts on other realms on Excal.

Sorry going off on a complete tangent but I think people should understand what it's like for the regular players before they start slagging us off for adding or harbouring bad feelings towards the 'fg vs fg' scene.

 

[Vodkafairy]

Going off at a slight tangent but a part of the reason you can now go and have your challenging fg fights is thanks to the RAs gained by farming the 'randoms' in OF (obviously some have rerolled but a significant proportion have not). You don't get rr11/rr12 by only killing other fgs, when you get there you have the luxury of choice.

Well on an average night we make 30-50k, and 80-90% of that is from killing other groups that roam for 8v8 fights im pretty sure. Sure we have nights where theres a lot of siege action and we bump into many easy grps, but such nights are actually quite rare.

I was not really referring to Hibs 'fgs' in my post I have far bigger issues with the ones in my own realm who managed last week to reduce me tears (yeah yeah I'm not very thick skinned) when I had not even left the very small area around Beno. Earlier in the same week someone I won't name joined my bg and threatened to steal artifacts from us because we were trying to retake Erasleigh. Or take the person who PM'd 'die plz' to me for 'adding' on a fight at Beno docks. It is this behaviour that generates such bad feeling towards 'fgs', I don't know if it happens in other realms, but I imagine it does as many of those involved play alts on other realms on Excal.

such behaviour is really insane, please don't think thats the norm for fg's. when we get a nice fight 'ruined' by your group/duo/zerg or anyone else, sure it frustrates me sometimes aswell. i would never go as far as to tell people to die irl though, or anything even close to that - and if i see anyone in my guild doing that i do make it very clear i don't want such behaviour.

there is quite a few hibs that are rude in the same way as you described though, but havnt seen anything that serious in our grp except our bard who i whined at badly

Sorry going off on a complete tangent but I think people should understand what it's like for the regular players before they start slagging us off for adding or harbouring bad feelings towards the 'fg vs fg' scene.

well i completely understand, and i think there shouldnt be any hostility between those 'groups'. guess some people are just really bad at controlling themself when they get frustrated im no saint either tho, i slapped (or was it rude? ) you when you added the other day!

/surrender

 

[Indrid]

Going off at a slight tangent but a part of the reason you can now go and have your challenging fg fights is thanks to the RAs gained by farming the 'randoms' in OF (obviously some have rerolled but a significant proportion have not). You don't get rr11/rr12 by only killing other fgs, when you get there you have the luxury of choice.

I was not really referring to Hibs 'fgs' in my post I have far bigger issues with the ones in my own realm who managed last week to reduce me tears (yeah yeah I'm not very thick skinned) when I had not even left the very small area around Beno. Earlier in the same week someone I won't name joined my bg and threatened to steal artifacts from us because we were trying to retake Erasleigh. Or take the person who PM'd 'die plz' to me for 'adding' on a fight at Beno docks. It is this behaviour that generates such bad feeling towards 'fgs', I don't know if it happens in other realms, but I imagine it does as many of those involved play alts on other realms on Excal.

Sorry going off on a complete tangent but I think people should understand what it's like for the regular players before they start slagging us off for adding or harbouring bad feelings towards the 'fg vs fg' scene.

dont know if i get u right here, but u are one of those adding it seems, since ppl say bad things to you. Some ppl who play this game, only plays for rvr, and fg fights, most ppl play this cause of pve and some rvr, those obviously thinks that it is rly fun to zerg and add on players. In my expirence most albs LOVES to add on fights and ruin the gameplay of others. They get whined at, but they keep on doing it. Ofc saying stuff like you got pm'ed is just silly and rude, but i can understand why they can get mad for doing it, but there is other ways of saying it than die irl! But when u see that u do get these comments, try not to add/zerg to those who say it too you, cause u then know that they are some of the fg vs fg fighters.

just a thought.

Djin

 

[Javai]

dont know if i get u right here, but u are one of those adding it seems, since ppl say bad things to you. Some ppl who play this game, only plays for rvr, and fg fights, most ppl play this cause of pve and some rvr, those obviously thinks that it is rly fun to zerg and add on players. In my expirence most albs LOVES to add on fights and ruin the gameplay of others. They get whined at, but they keep on doing it. Ofc saying stuff like you got pm'ed is just silly and rude, but i can understand why they can get mad for doing it, but there is other ways of saying it than die irl! But when u see that u do get these comments, try not to add/zerg to those who say it too you, cause u then know that they are some of the fg vs fg fighters.

just a thought.

Djin

The problem is that these groups are fighting in common places - around docks etc where lots of Albs are liekly to be - I don't go looking for their fights to add (though after the last week I am sorely tempted to). If what they really want are group fights they should play on the server designed for it, or at the very least not try and conduct their play style at places that will be passed by almost every Alb in rvr.

 

[Matriarch|Sneakers]

current rvr is much more challenging.

Don't see the challenge in nuking for 600-800 dmg with 10 cast speed and 400 dex

 

[Bracken]

I want fg vs fg action, no doubt about that, but fg vs fg only is not something that can keep me occupied all night simply because there arent many fg's to fight.

I totally understand this, and to me there isn't the slightest problem with fg who farm on the edge of zergs to keep themselves amused. In my book how people play is irrelevant, it's all about attitude. It's when a fg hangs around a zerg looking for easy fights and then bitch at people who "add" on them that it's a problem. There are many who prefer fg fights who aren't like that - it's the gobby few who give them a bad rep. F*ckwits like Jilocasin and Phake who pm someone like Favail with "retard" and "die" aren't representative of all fg'ers, but they do give them a bad name.

 

[Iboha]

Originally Posted by censi:
but i do hate NF... or perhaps feel that it encourages large scale RVR and makes FG rvr a lot harder...

Again large scale RVR i just find is brutally punishing and unrewarding. We still have the populations on the servers to make good RVR viable.. We just need a system that makes this more possible really.

I agree with censi

I find it hard to get Good rps out of Zergs, and going Solo can be a pain unless ur camping a tower to death, which gets soooooo boring, GOA/mythic have to come up with a away to make Duels/small group combat, more vaible in NF, I do like NF layout tho but imo Put DF back on Keeps controlled ^^

Bad GOA BAD

 

[Chronictank]

Bad GOA BAD

Bad mythic you mean
GOA is just a service provider and nothing to do with the development of the game

rvr island inc so they have heard the shouting so to speak

 

[Glottis]

Lol, lame ass l33t fg vs fg
I see leet fg's gank solo, duo players non stop as they run in with speed 6...
And yet those fg's complain when someone adds on their precious fight on beno bridge/docks or crim dock/bridge...
New server types are a dumb idea. The best thing is to concentrate player base to keep things interesting for the existing users while the Dev team goes about fixing gameplay.
Mind you, these l33t groups are the onces that are not interested in player balance. Their epeen depends on being uber, etc. Groups like Nolby Pricks would break down and cry in real life if they could not play their OP toons.
Reason Hibs left due to grouppurge, nice example of crying over loosing some OP skill...
Regards, Glottis

 

[Iboha]

Bad mythic you mean
GOA is just a service provider and nothing to do with the development of the game

Ahhh Some one to blame the Lag on Finaly!!!!!

 

[Eleasias]

Reason Hibs left due to grouppurge, nice example of crying over loosing some OP skill...
Regards, Glottis

Yeah because there are no hibs out ever

 

[SethNaket]

Groups like Nolby Pricks would break down and cry in real life if they could not play their OP toons.

You're aware that the players in NP probably play albion more than midgard right? And that's just on excal, if you count other servers it's not even close? You didn't know that? I'm not surprised since you never seem to have even the faintest clue about anything.

 

[Indrid]

Mind you, these l33t groups are the onces that are not interested in player balance. Their epeen depends on being uber, etc. Groups like Nolby Pricks would break down and cry in real life if they could not play their OP toons.
Reason Hibs left due to grouppurge, nice example of crying over loosing some OP skill...
Regards, Glottis

You know that all players have to lvl and gain realm ranks and gear, even the elite groups, so all elite players have started small with low rr's and shit, still they have played elite, and doing good. Its not just about the char's you play that makes em elite, its the players, the way they play, the teamwork they have and picking the correct targets and routes to take and everything. To study the game and learn everything about it. Elite players usually do that with shitty chars aswell. I have played with elite players who plays a char really good, even tho its low realm rank, and not an OP toon as you say. They played good cause of their skillz and not their OP toon!

Djin

 

[Faya]

Javai gimme names ingame and i go and find those suckers and pm you every move of them! You one of the nicest, best, loved etc. ppl imo or should be for trying to boost "normal" albions to go compete in RvR and lead raids. And to those who say "let enemy have keeps in alb frontier"...go FO and reroll.

Faya

 

[Vodkafairy]

Don't see the challenge in nuking for 600-800 dmg with 10 cast speed and 400 dex

heh, clueless

not even going to bother writing more, i just hope you're joking or else you're so biased its not even funny

 

[Aloca]

Reasons for new server types:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

MYTHIC ENTERTAINMENT TO POSTPONE PRODUCTION OF "IMPERATOR" MMORPG


Company to focus development on "Warhammer" MMORPG and "Dark Age of Camelot"


FAIRFAX, VA - July 13, 2005 - Mythic Entertainment, developer and publisher of massively-multiplayer online role-playing games, today announced the production postponement of "Imperator," the sci-fi MMORPG previously scheduled for a June 2006 release. The decision was made after a complete internal review of the project status.

"This was the most difficult decision that we have ever had to make," said Mark Jacobs, CEO and president of Mythic Entertainment. "However, our tremendous success with 'Dark Age of Camelot' set the standard for Mythic of releasing nothing less than triple-A games, and 'Imperator' was simply not meeting that standard."

There are no personnel layoffs planned as a result of this decision. Staff will be reassigned to the ongoing development of "Dark Age of Camelot" including the next expansion, "Darkness Rising," scheduled for Q4 '05. In addition some personnel have already been assigned to the new "Warhammer" MMORPG which Mythic announced at E3 in May 2005.

"Our team made a tremendous effort with the game and the praise it drew at E3 and in previews reflected their skill and dedication," Jacobs continued. "But in the final analysis it just wasn't great enough to be a Mythic game at this time."

Mythic will perform an internal reassessment of the game's features and make a decision on how to proceed with its development in the future.

The decision to postpone "Imperator" also means that the company's plans to establish a European publishing office have been postponed. It is expected that those plans will resume as the company prepares for its 2007 worldwide publication of the "Warhammer" MMORPG.

About Mythic Entertainment

Mythic Entertainment is one of the most successful developers and publishers of massively multiplayer online role-playing games in the world. Credited with 15 online games, including the award winning "Dark Age of Camelot(R)," Mythic's success is based in proprietary technology, superior game design and exemplary customer service delivered by a talented staff of more than 160 people. "Dark Age of Camelot(R)" has been played in almost every country in the world, and has been translated into seven languages including recently Spanish and Japanese.

In March 2003, TA Associates completed a $32 million investment in Mythic, the largest ever granted to any independent game developer. Mythic has been recognized for their business achievements by the Inc. 500, Deloitte Fast 500, and as a 2004 finalist in the Dell Small Business Awards. In addition to the next "Dark Age of Camelot(R)" expansion "Darkness Rising," Mythic is currently developing the new fantasy MMORPG based on the popular Games Workshop property, Warhammer. More information about Mythic Entertainment is available at www.mythicentertainment.com.

 

[Aloca]

Thats becouse most leet grps doesnt want to fight other leet grps. They claim they do but what they realy want is to fight noobs and lots of them for easy rps so they can flex their epeen.
Always been like that, whine on the zerg but search it up every time you rvr.

Woot i got rep for that post !
thx

 

[AmeinoN]

Thats becouse most leet grps doesnt want to fight other leet grps. They claim they do but what they realy want is to fight noobs and lots of them for easy rps so they can flex their epeen.
Always been like that, whine on the zerg but search it up every time you rvr.

:worthy:

 

[liloe]

Lol, lame ass l33t fg vs fg
I see leet fg's gank solo, duo players non stop as they run in with speed 6...
And yet those fg's complain when someone adds on their precious fight on beno bridge/docks or crim dock/bridge...

This is partially correct, there are groups out there which leave soloers alone and they have my huge respect for doing so. The thing is, you can't say, I don't add on them if they don't kill me solo, someone has to start it, so I avoid fg fights, sometimes I /cheer or just walk by. Yes, I got abuse for just standing there and watching and tbh, I think these people are idiots, but still I will not add on their fights, cause maybe the other group is having fun aswell, I wouldn't like to spoil their fun just cause of personal revenge against someone else.

There is also another problem ( a problem that I, as support player, especially have ): What if I play bard and suddenly some damage dealers unstick to nuke an enemy down? Often enough I can't react fast enough and ask for not doing it. What if I play druid and some ppl add on a fight, am I supposed not to heal, can't really do that aswell =)

New server types are a dumb idea. The best thing is to concentrate player base to keep things interesting for the existing users while the Dev team goes about fixing gameplay.

I agree

Mind you, these l33t groups are the onses that are not interested in player balance. Their epeen depends on being uber, etc. Groups like <insert some fixed group or guild group here> would break down and cry in real life if they could not play their OP toons.
Reason Hibs left due to grouppurge, nice example of crying over loosing some OP skill...
Regards, Glottis

This is complete crap Glottis. Every realm has shown that winning is possible, just the class balance on some classes is crap, which means at every time in this game, a certain type of class was/is considered fotm. Just take the mage example. Before ToA and the common banelord setups, mages ruled the battlefield by far. Their superior dmg ouput was uber. Let's just take mentalists here, cause that's something I'm familiar with. In OF without ToA they were one of the best casters and nuked the hell out of our enemies. They had STT to counter enemy pets and self purge. Then ToA came, mages could be interrupted all the time by just pushing a banelord button ( ok, I'm exagerating a bit here, but that's how it feels =) ) and people swiched to tanks more.

The point is that the fixed groups or the ppl who play a lot have it much easier to adopt a new style, so they are ofc much stronger cause of this. The day Mythic manages to balance out classes in RvR it will hurt a lot of people, I agree to that, but it will also benefit a lot of people. Today's RvR is a lot ( not completely ofc ) of a choice between classes/ML's/RA's and that's a huge mistake, so instead of giving thousands of new server types, Mythic should balance out what they have to make every char have at least one good way of competing in RvR ( I said "at least one", I don't ask for enchantment chanters to get super utility, or verdant anis or whatever PvE specline ).

The game is more and more geared towards people who play a lot, which is ofc intended, but I guess it also scares customers away and I don't think people would play less if some things in the game were easier to achieve ( ML's, artis, scrolls etc. ).

This ofc would mean a complete redesign of all ML's, the way artis are activated/lvl'd, the speclines, the RA's and that's the hard job Mythic has. You can patch things, players will thank you for it, but the majority of the players want new things every now and then, so you need new expansions and I think Mythic is atm walking a narrow line between adding new content and fixing old stuff. You can clearly see they're trying to improve things, but they're also under a constant pressure of trying to get new players.

That's what I think =)

 

[Aloca]

Mythic never tryed to balance the classes 1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1.... Neither have they tryed to balance grp setups 8v8v8.
They taken the much easier way and balanced Alb vs Hib vs Mid.


Balancing all classes vs each others would require 900+ tests and if some class wasnt balanced they would need tweak it and restart the testing.

8v8 is even harder to balance as their is so many diffrent grp setups possible and all abilities still make a inpact on the outcome.

Realm vs Realm is very easy to balance. No ability is so OP that it singlehandly win a RvR fight.

 

[Gordonax]

Reason Hibs left due to grouppurge, nice example of crying over loosing some OP skill...
Regards, Glottis

Oh man, GP... now that brings back happy memories...

 

[Phake]

I totally understand this, and to me there isn't the slightest problem with fg who farm on the edge of zergs to keep themselves amused. In my book how people play is irrelevant, it's all about attitude. It's when a fg hangs around a zerg looking for easy fights and then bitch at people who "add" on them that it's a problem. There are many who prefer fg fights who aren't like that - it's the gobby few who give them a bad rep. F*ckwits like Jilocasin and Phake who pm someone like Favail with "retard" and "die" aren't representative of all fg'ers, but they do give them a bad name.

Well for starters i have mentioned once or twice to ppl that they add and that i dun like them dooing so ... and those occations have been extreme .. even so .. i have never said "die" to someone ..though i have said "yeah yeah .. whatever retard" once to favail i think it was as a reply on her extremly irritating comments to me .. for simply pointing out that she and "her" group was adding and we would like for them to stop it.

so dont come here and post shit about ppl that dun deserve it.

 

[Bracken]

Well for starters i have mentioned once or twice to ppl that they add and that i dun like them dooing so ... and those occations have been extreme .. even so .. i have never said "die" to someone ..though i have said "yeah yeah .. whatever retard" once to favail i think it was as a reply on her extremly irritating comments to me .. for simply pointing out that she and "her" group was adding and we would like for them to stop it.

so dont come here and post shit about ppl that dun deserve it.

I know it was Jilocasin who told her to die and that you were the one who called her a retard, and it all began because she dared to add on a fight you were in. Doesn't matter how many times you have done it, doing it even once to a decent genuine person like Favail is out of order in my book. If someone ends up in tears because you spit your dummy out over them adding then you do deserve it. Pity really, because you used to be a decent bloke...

 

[Talivar]

Any1 that tells ppl to die irl over adding are the biggst type of iidiot u can get.All i can say is grow up but i doubt they would listen

 

[Lethul]

I know it was Jilocasin who told her to die and that you were the one who called her a retard, and it all began because she dared to add on a fight you were in. Doesn't matter how many times you have done it, doing it even once to a decent genuine person like Favail is out of order in my book. If someone ends up in tears because you spit your dummy out over them adding then you do deserve it. Pity really, because you used to be a decent bloke...

what has the world come too when AD is the friendliest alb rvr guild? :eek2: