New server types !

Soazak

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They should really concentrate on fixing the old ones before spreading the populations even more :/

Would it not just take equal effort as the evolution server to balance the existing classes? :(
 

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when will they admit defeat and get rid of NF, everyone knows its unpopuler (you can tell by the 75% drop in population) all these new retarded servers just kill the game even more by taking people from the main servers for a few weeks before they quit proper.
 

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nail + coffin = dead

seems like a bad move to spend time developing completly new server types.

from my part of view and lots feel the same... We have our characters, we have our server so just concentrate on improving the dynamics and environment of the server we all play on rather than thin the community out.

After DF rising,, mythic dev team should spend a good 1-2 months playing the game and the classes on a server (dupe some high RR toon of players with good LWRP's). And then do a major class balancing exercise based on there experience of the classes. cuz tbh i think their idea of balance is all pen and paper stuff not from playing the game extensivly. its way off.
 

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Mythic dev crew should read FH and VN boards more, and they would find at least on FH, that a poll with OF server, would tell them some surprises.
 

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Sauruman said:
Mythic dev crew should read FH and VN boards more, and they would find at least on FH, that a poll with OF server, would tell them some surprises.

yes instead of classic and other idiot plans they should fix toa with instances or something...

but if they really want to do something worthwhile do the server most of us cried out for

No NF
No TOA
can get rid of bbs too, nocare

Shrouded Isles + Of with savage quad fixed. teh end, mythic seems to be so clueless with these new stuff tbh.

oh and old RA's too, now a really high RR grp is alot harder foe than it was before, especially support with bof3-moc3-dix-purgex whatever up in each 10-15mins...
 

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Raven said:
when will they admit defeat and get rid of NF, everyone knows its unpopuler (you can tell by the 75% drop in population) all these new retarded servers just kill the game even more by taking people from the main servers for a few weeks before they quit proper.

NF is loved by a large, nay huge number of people. Just because every 2nd thread on FH is whine from the "1337" doesn't mean its unpopular. FH is not a good representation of the majority in any sense; it's content is fuelled by so called "1337ness", from players who are sad enough to continuously play the game despite avidly condemning it at every opportunity.

If an accurate survey was carried out (which is near-on impossible), I predict you'd find most people do like playing in NF. Not all, but a majority.
 

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eggy said:
NF is loved by a large, nay huge number of people. Just because every 2nd thread on FH is whine from the "1337" doesn't mean its unpopular. FH is not a good representation of the majority in any sense; it's content is fuelled by so called "1337ness", from players who are sad enough to continuously play the game despite avidly condemning it at every opportunity.

If an accurate survey was carried out (which is near-on impossible), I predict you'd find most people do like playing in NF. Not all, but a majority.

did i say it was hated by all? didnt think so, so you reckon near 75% and yes that probably pretty accurate, quit because they love NF? riiiight
 

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im positive about daoc. love the game still.

but i do hate NF... or perhaps feel that it encourages large scale RVR and makes FG rvr a lot harder...

Again large scale RVR i just find is brutally punishing and unrewarding. We still have the populations on the servers to make good RVR viable.. We just need a system that makes this more possible really.

maybe this island thing is the perfect solution ;)
 

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the servers ain't anywhere near 1/4 of their old population ;) I imagine at least as many would have left out of sheer boredom with OF.

If you hate NF that much why are you all still here? OF ain't coming back. There is the island mind you....
 

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Get rid of the Porting all together this is to easy for a Zerg to form.Twr on fire next thing you got 50+ hunting you down Porting bad idea in my books get back to OF way of getting to keeps.

I miss OF especially Mid frontier Zone loved Mpk fights etc around there as Emain was always packed sadly that never be the same.

Porting should go that way it make it harder for attacking realm to Hold on to keeps that they take.Remember times RR was announced in OF getting on Horse from DL to DC running down Drum Cain valley to get Relic keep took ages with insta port it to easy now where before you could kill 1/2 enemy they release wait for port and then rushing back to where they were all took time.

For me that would be 1 of the best changes.

Soulja
 

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well it wasn't just nf that made alot of ppl quit, it was new ra's, rr5's and in the case of hibernia, losing GP and relics ;)

nf itself isn't so bad. they just need to do smth about the time it takes to find action when noone holds a (portable) keep in enemy territory. the new island should do just that and make the 'leet' happy and the keep takers/tower humpers/bridge campers and zergers can carry on doing what they've always done.
 

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Konah said:
well it wasn't just nf that made alot of ppl quit, it was new ra's, rr5's and in the case of hibernia, losing GP and relics ;)

nf itself isn't so bad. they just need to do smth about the time it takes to find action when noone holds a (portable) keep in enemy territory. the new island should do just that and make the 'leet' happy and the keep takers/tower humpers/bridge campers and zergers can carry on doing what they've always done.

Island came it sucked ppl went back to NF. on US that is :(
 

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if everyone sent a email to Mythic, and by this i mean EVERYONE, i think they may get the fucking point for a change, for 1 their box will be flooded, 2 it wil all be about the same thing.

If they spent some time listening to their customers, etc, its bullshit that they say the dont have the patches, because they do they just dont want to patch back.
 

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Chimaira said:
Island came it sucked ppl went back to NF. on US that is :(

Thats becouse most leet grps doesnt want to fight other leet grps. They claim they do but what they realy want is to fight noobs and lots of them for easy rps so they can flex their epeen.
Always been like that, whine on the zerg but search it up every time you rvr.
 

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Raven said:
did i say it was hated by all? didnt think so, so you reckon near 75% and yes that probably pretty accurate, quit because they love NF? riiiight

and did I say that you said it was? No.

I also never said "75% quit because they love NF". In fact, I severely doubt the population is 25% of what it used to be.

Don't take a job as a analyst or statistician, it's clear you don't understand how numbers work.
 

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Carlos Bananos said:
They should really concentrate on fixing the old ones before spreading the populations even more :/

Would it not just take equal effort as the evolution server to balance the existing classes? :(


Spot on.
 

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Aloca said:
Thats becouse most leet grps doesnt want to fight other leet grps. They claim they do but what they realy want is to fight noobs and lots of them for easy rps so they can flex their epeen.
Always been like that, whine on the zerg but search it up every time you rvr.

Thats about as accurate as you can get. When the island arrives, if a random group hit a tower you can be sure a high RR group will appear for the fun 8v8 fight :)
 

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Libertine said:
Thats about as accurate as you can get. When the island arrives, if a random group hit a tower you can be sure a high RR group will appear for the fun 8v8 fight :)

Don't agree with this completly. This may happen if the group doesn't have the optimal 8vs8 setup, and has for example more casters or not every support. So, imo, you will see GG's there, and some "special" (setup) PUG's.

I just hope GoL stops camping bridges, and tries to fight something in a real 8vs8 ^^

PS: Where did outlaw and zoyster go ? Did they quit again ? :p
 

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Einherjar said:
Don't agree with this completly. This may happen if the group doesn't have the optimal 8vs8 setup, and has for example more casters or not every support. So, imo, you will see GG's there, and some "special" (setup) PUG's.

I just hope GoL stops camping bridges, and tries to fight something in a real 8vs8 ^^

PS: Where did outlaw and zoyster go ? Did they quit again ? :p

Even the optimal 8v8 groups do this, when there is insta RvR on in emain where are most of the 'l33+' groups? yup thats right running over DC bridge every 5 minutes killing solo people or camping on the bridge tower.

Last time i looked i didn't see many 8v8 groups on the bridge tower, i best look again today ;)
 

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Himse said:
if everyone sent a email to Mythic, and by this i mean EVERYONE, i think they may get the fucking point for a change, for 1 their box will be flooded, 2 it wil all be about the same thing.

If they spent some time listening to their customers, etc, its bullshit that they say the dont have the patches, because they do they just dont want to patch back.

Why would everyone do that? Just because you don't like things doesn't mean others don't either. I love daoc as it is.
 

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Aloca said:
Thats becouse most leet grps doesnt want to fight other leet grps. They claim they do but what they realy want is to fight noobs and lots of them for easy rps so they can flex their epeen.
Always been like that, whine on the zerg but search it up every time you rvr.

:clap: :clap:

Already predicted that if all the 'randoms' stayed away from new island the 'leet' groups won't go there. There is nothing to stop those groups setting an area to fight each night that is well away from the majority of action but they know full well that fighting each other only won't give many rps in the course of a night.
 

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Libertine said:
Even the optimal 8v8 groups do this, when there is insta RvR on in emain where are most of the 'l33+' groups? yup thats right running over DC bridge every 5 minutes killing solo people or camping on the bridge tower.

Last time i looked i didn't see many 8v8 groups on the bridge tower, i best look again today ;)
You are so noob you dont even know the difference of a l337 grp and a guildgroup :<
 

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Javai said:
:clap: :clap:

Already predicted that if all the 'randoms' stayed away from new island the 'leet' groups won't go there. There is nothing to stop those groups setting an area to fight each night that is well away from the majority of action but they know full well that fighting each other only won't give many rps in the course of a night.
Because its boring to run around finding nothing to kill, we get bored and move from eastside emain to check bowl once in a while etc. You _do_ realize we inform other grps on a daily basis where we are roaming so we can fight them? Just that its not quake where they instantly appear there to fight, what are we supposed to do while we wait for the group to come again?

Yeah excactly, farm randoms.
 

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Eleasias said:
Because its boring to run around finding nothing to kill, we get bored and move from eastside emain to check bowl once in a while etc. You _do_ realize we inform other grps on a daily basis where we are roaming so we can fight them? Just that its not quake where they instantly appear there to fight, what are we supposed to do while we wait for the group to come again?

Yeah excactly, farm randoms.

Which presumably is why so many of these groups are around HW docks when there isn't a port into emain, obviously it's an optimal place to fight and not get adds and not at all to do with a steady flow of easy rps.
 

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Javai said:
Which presumably is why so many of these groups are around HW docks when there isn't a port into emain, obviously it's an optimal place to fight and not get adds and not at all to do with a steady flow of easy rps.

Agreed, same with DC bridge and DC bridge tower, obviously these places are extremely quiet and there is little to no chance of adds should you encounter another FG there.
 

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Yeah like you said, people dont go to those places to have fg fights, people (even us) go there to get the even easier rp's than the group we just killed was, there isnt some steady flow of decent fg's coming to a remote place, no one wants to play a game that is boring so during the "fg downtime" we go kill some randoms, pretty simple?
 

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