New RP System on US servers

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Righthandof said:
ppl who played for rp instead of fun get a huge dildo stuck up in their ***, others, "normal" players shouldnt make a big prob out of this.
Well, people who play for rps (tho it's quite possible to enjoy playing in a decent group) will still make more rps than others, but the new system screws over people who made a lot of rps in the past, rather than in the future, which is a shame :/
 

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Righthandof said:
ppl who played for rp instead of fun get a huge dildo stuck up in their ***, others, "normal" players shouldnt make a big prob out of this.

I think someones bitter cause he doesnt run in a proper fg
 

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Chimaira said:
I think someones bitter cause he doesnt run in a proper fg

its always 2-sided. being in a proper fg is cool, something i never had, sure id like to. but on the other hand, getting to high rr in a proper group is pretty easy, doesnt require too much skill, at least not as much as you need if you achieve that high rr in solo/duo/pugs... so yes, i kinda dismiss/laugh at every1 who thinks he's uber because he got to rr7+ in a regular guild group or something. thats the very easy mode.
 

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Righthandof said:
its always 2-sided. being in a proper fg is cool, something i never had, sure id like to. but on the other hand, getting to high rr in a proper group is pretty easy, doesnt require too much skill, at least not as much as you need if you achieve that high rr in solo/duo/pugs... so yes, i kinda dismiss/laugh at every1 who thinks he's uber because he got to rr7+ in a regular guild group or something. thats the very easy mode.

You dont just randomly get into proper guild groups. If proper groups took on any old noob then they wouldnt be proper groups, they would suck :p
 

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Righthandof said:
but how about giving valid/reachable goals to average players(like that even they can get to rr10, and not only the cube head bug abusers with a stabile guild group)? most players have no chance to get to rr10 even in years and even if they know how to play their class good. (although some formerly mentioned ppl can get 2 * rr10'S without the need of skill) this might change a bit, and im happy about it.


People play the game for different reasons and different purposes. Some want high rr, some want to be part of something bigger like a guild and to make it work, some want to be able to do alot of stuff in PvE with as few people as poss in shortest time poss. Not everyones goal is RR10. But if it is your goal, and someone else can get it without breaking a sweat and just adding like pure madness with their new fotm class and they do it in a week, it kinda makes you wanna throw something hard at someone.
 

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Righthandof said:
its always 2-sided. being in a proper fg is cool, something i never had, sure id like to. but on the other hand, getting to high rr in a proper group is pretty easy, doesnt require too much skill, at least not as much as you need if you achieve that high rr in solo/duo/pugs... so yes, i kinda dismiss/laugh at every1 who thinks he's uber because he got to rr7+ in a regular guild group or something. thats the very easy mode.

Getting high rr in a proper group is indeed easier than solo, just facts but then again it aint easymode if you dont rule the server. I myself run a lil 8man group on prydwen and we dont stand up to the top guilds(yet), I run a very good 8man guild on US servers and the only reason we are good are cause americans cant rvr etc right?(Even though 80% of our enemies are europeans etc).

If you refer to my rr7+ merc getting his rr in easymode I suggest you keep your mouth shut since Iam one of the few old mercs left on pryd and rr7l3 in that time isnt very impressive, Maybe cause I played solo unbuffed to rr5, pve nerding for years until I even touched rvr.

But I think you are a bit to negative and aggressive towards 8v8ers.
 

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Cozak said:
You dont just randomly get into proper guild groups. If proper groups took on any old noob then they wouldnt be proper groups, they would suck :p

sure, getting noobs would ruin the group, but most of the time it has nothing to do with skill. its more like irl friends, and if you happen to live in a country where you can hardly meet any foreigners, and only 10 ppl play daoc from the whole nation, you start from a great disadvantage.

Chimaira said:
If you refer to my rr7+ merc getting his rr in easymode I suggest you keep your mouth shut since Iam one of the few old mercs left on pryd and rr7l3 in that time isnt very impressive, Maybe cause I played solo unbuffed to rr5, pve nerding for years until I even touched rvr.

it wasnt directed at anyone personally, but the whole topic is about the poor high rr guys, who wont be so leet, because every random player can achieve what they have got so far(rr10+), and that just makes me sick. :puke:

Edit: oh and I see now, FH isn't the place this point of view can live for long, because this is the home of the l33t players, who think they're cool because they are high rr(even tho they got it in the very very easy mode), so im off, have a nice day.
 

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Realm Rank does not make a good player. U can ebay a rr11 toon. A good player will be a good player no matter what skin u dress him in.

Position
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Above all else - combat experience.


Put somone of low skill/experience in a RR13 toon against a similiar RR1 toon with somone of vast skill/expereince and i would put money on it that the RR1 toon would win 9/10 fights.

There simply is no substitute for experience.


But saying that, somone who has played a char from lvl 1 to lvl 50 rr10 will still be of comparable skill to the old skool rr13. Its not like u can spend 1 day in rvr and get 6 million rps, it is still hardwork and will require alot of time/effort.

If anything the high rr set groups should applaud this move as it will give them alot more opponenets with comparable RA's, therefore tougher fights which is what they crave.
 

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Righthandof said:
its more like irl friends, and if you happen to live in a country where you can hardly meet any foreigners, and only 10 ppl play daoc from the whole nation, you start from a great disadvantage.
I don't really get this part. Do you say it's easier to get a set group if you got rl friends that plays daoc and live in a country where you can meet foreigners? Could you explain how because I fail to understand. I've been getting lots of groups with low effort with knowing no-one irl that plays daoc, and I can't say I meet many foreigners in a small town in sweden. ~~
 

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Eva said:
I don't really get this part. Do you say it's easier to get a set group if you got rl friends that plays daoc and live in a country where you can meet foreigners? Could you explain how because I fail to understand. I've been getting lots of groups with low effort with knowing no-one irl that plays daoc, and I can't say I meet many foreigners in a small town in sweden. ~~


He referred to AoD in his every post if I'm right, since he was AoD member for a while. AoD was an only hungarian guild and we made guild grp with only aod members in it thus only hungarian members, who know each other from irl as well. Since we running sg, and there is 8 place in it and aod had more players than 8, we had always trouble with those who just couldnt get into the grp, many left the game, or the guild or the server, rest aren't, those are the ones still playing.
If I knew why I'm bothered to write this down >.< anyway, there is no way to make everyone happy.
 

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Ging said:
Realm Rank does not make a good player. U can ebay a rr11 toon. A good player will be a good player no matter what skin u dress him in.

Position
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Using abilities effectivly
Communication
Team Work
Targeting
Knowledge of ingame mechanics

Above all else - combat experience.


Put somone of low skill/experience in a RR13 toon against a similiar RR1 toon with somone of vast skill/expereince and i would put money on it that the RR1 toon would win 9/10 fights.

There simply is no substitute for experience.


But saying that, somone who has played a char from lvl 1 to lvl 50 rr10 will still be of comparable skill to the old skool rr13. Its not like u can spend 1 day in rvr and get 6 million rps, it is still hardwork and will require alot of time/effort.

If anything the high rr set groups should applaud this move as it will give them alot more opponenets with comparable RA's, therefore tougher fights which is what they crave.

I would put money on it that the rr13 beats the rr1.
for the rest you are right :)
 

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ebayed clueless rr13 > rr1, depending on what class we talk about ofc :)

DAoC is today built on onebuttonIwins sadly. You just cannot compete without some of the tools offered in the form of RAs.

Id say a solid rr6 > an ebayed rr13 though in most cases which only is 1mill RPs which isnt much at all.

The good thing with this new system is that its alot easier now to do this:

Take a bunch of friends, go roll mid on MLF, TOA, go RVR, get a decent RR and compete with the highRRgrps out there. Which I believe is good but, its a sucky thing for EU really, since EU offer little to no possibility to change realms and try out new stuff. Its far better in US if we put it in that light and my guess is, Mythic planned for that, for their own serverenvironment, not for EU with one cluster for english people to play which is very limited.
 

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Cozak said:
who the fuck are you?

Jesus, see my sig...

Serious, Cozak, guy I was guilded with, regular pretty casual player, Thane was his main, goes american server, gets in guild group, all of a sudden develops some attitude?
 

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Melachi said:
Jesus, see my sig...

Serious, Cozak, guy I was guilded with, regular pretty casual player, Thane was his main, goes american server, gets in guild group, all of a sudden develops some attitude?

I dont have an attitude, I was with the guild well before we moved to US servers and I dont like it when people knock my guild for no good reason. You seem to have some sort reading problem though, as I didnt quote you or ask who you were. My post, infact, had nothing at all to do with you.

edit: The guy, who the post was directed at, his sig contains no information as to whom he might be, hence me asking.
 

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Cozak said:
I dont have an attitude, I was with the guild well before we moved to US servers and I dont like it when people knock my guild for no good reason. You seem to have some sort reading problem though, as I didnt quote you or ask who you were. My post, infact, had nothing at all to do with you.

You said the classic "Who the fuck are you?" to somebody, I know it wasn't directed at me, but it's just too pathetic to pass by. The guy imo wasn't knocking your guild btw, looked more like he was knocking you.
 

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Melachi said:
You said the classic "Who the fuck are you?" to somebody, I know it wasn't directed at me, but it's just too pathetic to pass by. The guy imo wasn't knocking your guild btw, looked more like he was knocking you.

Even more reason for me to enquire as to who he is, wouldnt you say so?
 

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Cozak said:
Even more reason for me to enquire as to who he is, wouldnt you say so?


Not after this masturbation post he was replying too..

Cozak said:
You dont just randomly get into proper guild groups. If proper groups took on any old noob then they wouldnt be proper groups, they would suck :p
 

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Melachi said:
Not after this masturbation post he was replying too..

A masturbation post? Hardly, think about the post then you will realise its correct.
 

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Since you think im such a "leet wannabe" Melachi, I challenge you to prove this, and the post "who the fuck are you" does not qualify, sorry.
 

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Melachi said:
You said the classic "Who the fuck are you?" to somebody, I know it wasn't directed at me, but it's just too pathetic to pass by. The guy imo wasn't knocking your guild btw, looked more like he was knocking you.


any reason for that? saying that "ns moto lately?" is directed at our guild is it not? i take it you dont know us
 

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any reason for that? saying that "ns moto lately?" is directed at our guild is it not? i take it you dont know us

I figured it was aimed at Cozak tbh, as a potshot saying he is not a good player but yet is in your guild. However I could be wrong.

No I dont know your guild, I'm sure your all cool peeps, I only know Orenthal who I played with years ago in a few guilds.

Cozak said:
Since you think im such a "leet wannabe" Melachi, I challenge you to prove this, and the post "who the fuck are you" does not qualify, sorry.

Challenge declined, I can't prove your a "leet wannabe" but saying "Who the fuck are you?" on an internet gaming forum doesn't do much to disprove that theory.
 

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Melachi said:
I figured it was aimed at Cozak tbh, as a potshot saying he is not a good player but yet is in your guild. However I could be wrong.

No I dont know your guild, I'm sure your all cool peeps, I only know Orenthal who I played with years ago in a few guilds.



Challenge declined, I can't prove your a "leet wannabe" but saying "Who the fuck are you?" on an internet gaming forum doesn't do much to disprove that theory.

Well seeings this guy doesnt know me he has no basis for the comment. I do not go around saying "lookie me im ub0r l33t" and all that crap, I play the game for fun, not to be "leet". The reason I asked who he was in such a manner was because he was slinging mud without reason, not to look leet.
 

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Stfu you fucking pisscakes.

NS is probably the least leet guild that still holds skill that I know of.

And I can say I have my fights with them in the past and Im pretty sure atleast half of em dont like me at all, but im trying to smooth em up ;)

The guild consist of very nice players lovely to chat with just gives you a warm feeling, If someone does the shit post i saw earlier from unnamed non sig person I would response in teh same way, And I also hate the post"who the fuck are you".

And just because a guy used to play a Thane and now plays in a superb 8man group does that makes him less valuable to his guild ? No I dont think so.

And the move over atlantic to play Mythic servers has for so many guilds created a better rvr environment and so forth. not that I like Devon.

This post was made udner the influence of new lenses(ITCHY) and a couple of cold ones :)

Have a good saturday :p
 

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Stfu you fucking pisscakes.

NS is probably the least leet guild that still holds skill that I know of.

And I can say I have my fights with them in the past and Im pretty sure atleast half of em dont like me at all, but im trying to smooth em up ;)

The guild consist of very nice players lovely to chat with just gives you a warm feeling, If someone does the shit post i saw earlier from unnamed non sig person I would response in teh same way, And I also hate the post"who the fuck are you".

And just because a guy used to play a Thane and now plays in a superb 8man group does that makes him less valuable to his guild ? No I dont think so.

And the move over atlantic to play Mythic servers has for so many guilds created a better rvr environment and so forth. not that I like Devon.

This post was made udner the influence of new lenses(ITCHY) and a couple of cold ones :)

Have a good saturday :p


Going to reply to this in the assumption its atleast partially aimed at me.

"NS is probably the least leet guild that still holds skill that I know of."
Never accused NS of having leet attitude, just Cozak.

"And just because a guy used to play a Thane and now plays in a superb 8man group does that makes him less valuable to his guild ? No I dont think so."
Again, never said that him playing a Thane made him a bad player or useless to the guild oO
 

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Melachi said:
Going to reply to this in the assumption its atleast partially aimed at me.

"NS is probably the least leet guild that still holds skill that I know of."
Never accused NS of having leet attitude, just Cozak.

"And just because a guy used to play a Thane and now plays in a superb 8man group does that makes him less valuable to his guild ? No I dont think so."
Again, never said that him playing a Thane made him a bad player or useless to the guild oO

Then again this whole page is filled with useless crap between two players that have no knowledge about each other so :p

:cheers:
 

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Then again this whole page is filled with useless crap between two players that have no knowledge about each other so :p

:cheers:


We have a little knowlege of each other but its from a few weeks/months ago :p

we did ebon hide quest recently together :)
 

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Melachi said:
We have a little knowlege of each other but its from a few weeks/months ago :p

we did ebon hide quest recently together :)

be friends, Im having the flu and trying to tell myself not to go out tonight but since Im having a few cold ones its hard to say now. And those fucking lenses =( =( think about me instead :mad:
 

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