New RAs: Dual Threat <-> MoPain and WP

Ragnsteinn

Fledgling Freddie
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I know it isn't the final list but something doesn't add up here.

Dual Threat:Grants a bonus chance to critical hit on both melee and magic based attacks. Percentage chance as listed.
5: 5%
10: 10%
15: 20%

So, if I sum this up, it's be +20% chance of a melee crit and +20% chance of a magic crit at the third level at the cost of 30 pts?

Wild power:Increases chance to deal a critical hit with spells by listed percentage
Mastery of Pain: Increases chance to deal a critical hit in melee per listed percentage.
1: 3%
3: 9%
6: 17%
10: 27%
14: 39%

So, the 30 pts I could spend on DT would give me +27% of WP and +17% of MoPain (or the opposite). If you'd count a melee crit as valuable as a magic crit (or whatever you prefer), that would mean you'd have the same as a 22% DT ((27+17)/2) for the same cost?

If true, I'd like to thank Mythic for designing an ability, only available for 3 classes, that gives them less dmg for more Realm skillpoints.
 

Saggy

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The idea is not to get just one of them I believe ;) Example:

20 points to use:
Mastery of Pain III (17%), 10 pts used
Wild Power III, (17%), 10 pts used
= 17% for both and 20 pts used. Now, you could either go for:

A)
Mastery of Pain III -> IV (10% more), 10 more pts used
Wild Power III -> IV (10% more), 10 more pts used
=27% for both and 40 pts used in total.

or

B)
Dual Threat II (10% more for both), 15 pts used.
=27% both and 35 pts used in total.

or

C)
Mastery of Pain III (the same 17%), 0 pts used
Wild Power III - V (22% more), 24 pts used
=17+39/2=28% and 44 pts in total.

or

D)
Mastery of Pain III -> IV (10% more), 10 pts more
Dual Threat I (5% more for both), 5 pts more
=32+17/2= 24.5 pts and 35 pts used.

etc :p


Pretty much same thing as with Aug Dex and Mastery of the Art at the moment, you would prefer to get Aug Dex 2-3 over MotArt V for example to boost your casting time.
 

Ragnsteinn

Fledgling Freddie
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I did know that you could get both, I might have been a bit unclear on that.
But, to be perfectly honest, I didn't think of it. :eek:

To rephrase my question then:
Which would be the most efficient to spend xx pts (30 in my example) on WP, MoPain and Dual Threat and getting the most +% crit?

I've done some more n00bish calculations and came to the conclusion that:
DT 2&3 gives 1,33 % crit per point spent.
DT 1 gives 2% crit per point spent.
As MoPain and Wp gives
3%, 2,25%, 1,7%, 1,35% and finally 1,15% crit extra from level one to five (per point spent), I've come to the conclusion that the most efficient way to spend the points on crit dmg RAs would be:
1: WP and MoPain, lvl 1
2: WP, MoPain, lvl 2
3: DT, lvl 1
4: WP, MoPain lvl 3
5: WP, MoPain lvl 4
6: DT lvl 2 and 3
7: WP, MoPain 5

Even though it's highly unlikely anyone (not even me) would spend that much points on crit RAs I'd just like to ask if I'm correct this time.
Or have I missed something like in my post above?
 

Eredrin

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I would guess (hope anyway) that DT also works as WA, which means you'll also be able to crit debuffs, snares, dots etc. Useful for some hybrids :)
 

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