New patch, sbs happy now?xD

[emma]

Hi Grivne KelQQrian

if u look at it spec 50 for same another get at 25 is lame
I couldnt care less. my merc never use Df except in pve and my infil is both retired and slash so QQ and let me PA u for 850 dmg xDD

Atleast you have the option of speccing to 50 in Thrust/Slash without gimping your other spec lines. Ohh and btw.. Let me PA you with 2H Heat LW Axe and see who does the QQ`n then.

Say hello to 1100 dmg.

 

[Ilum]

Also worth nothing, there is no dispels for Spec AF, Spec Haste or Spec End regen buffs. Nor base af

There are ae dispels also, but these are at 40+ enhance specs so not really viable in RvR unless on Shaman's maybe if they wanna drop Cave for that.

 

[Groborthir]

Those pbaoe buffs and buff remove thingies are beyond stupid ...

 

[Dreami]

Wee, now stop calling meh FOTM

 

[Shan]

Biggest change in the patch is the new lines to primary buff classes. I guess it hits Midgard hardest since they only got 1 buff-dispeller in group and less conc to rebuff lost buffs.

Actually... It's true, but also note that shamans can spec 37aug (or even more) and still be RvR efficient, whereas druids afaik tend to spec 40regro (what means blue DEX/QUI, and 2nd druid may be Regro/Nature also). I don't know how clerics spec, but i'd assume something like 40Rej/36Enh? So no yellow DEX/QUI.. But Clerics gotta concentrate on healing, as there are usually only 2 clerics in opted alb group. Shaman is interruptmachine, but still can have some time to throw back that STR/CON or DEX/QUI that was just dropped from Healer. Also with 25% buff eff yellow buffs are quite effective :X Might also add 1 or 2 levels of MotA after this change if shaman is high RR and won't get IP..

Just shame that End still takes away 8 buffs.. Oh well, hoping for a group castable version again

Personally, if this change goes live "as is", i might respec my shammy to 39Aug 37Cave (It's the opposite now) to get the single DEX/QUI shear.. only thing i'd lose is blue ae root. green gets resisted abit more but it still sticks quite nicely. However going for the AE versions would be quite stupid, as you can only drop bases.. And you'd have to sacrifice stuff like better PBAOE Disease (lower would get resisted too much, what is fatal with groups having 2-3 perfecters with group cure disease). The AE versions are a joke though, 48 Aug for AE STR/CON Shear Would be nice to interrupt chanter box once with it, but that's about it. Can do same with single (+ MoC if getting interrupted).

But it's only on pendragon, probably gets tweaked. Props for mythic though, this is a direct (although minor) buffbot nerf And yet boost, as having high aug buffbot in group for couple runs might benefit alittle (For buffbots who want to get rp for MotA, even if it won't be needed much with TOA bonus that makes yellow specs to cap)

 

[Morchaoron]

Atleast you have the option of speccing to 50 in Thrust/Slash without gimping your other spec lines. Ohh and btw.. Let me PA you with 2H Heat LW Axe and see who does the QQ`n then.

Say hello to 1100 dmg.

hmmm
"omg my class sux"
"omg i pwn"
??

 

[Maleg]

Biggest change in the patch is the new lines to primary buff classes. I guess it hits Midgard hardest since they only got 1 buff-dispeller in group and less conc to rebuff lost buffs.

Hibs will probably only have 1 buff-dispeller also (2nd Druid is usually Reg/Nat), not sure about Clerics - is there a viable reason to spec anything but Enhance as a secondary line? Even so Clerics are normally kept pretty busy healing, if they're not that busy healing chances are their group has the battle well under control and will win anyhow.

 

[Jeriraa]

I think the whole idea behind the buff dispells is to get rid of the buffbots at the pks. Thats gonna reduce serverload and make TOA lag less.

 

[Mordur]

what????

jeri you evil person

i'll die without my bot :'(

 

[Morchaoron]

Hibs will probably only have 1 buff-dispeller also (2nd Druid is usually Reg/Nat), not sure about Clerics - is there a viable reason to spec anything but Enhance as a secondary line? Even so Clerics are normally kept pretty busy healing, if they're not that busy healing chances are their group has the battle well under control and will win anyhow.

yeah if it was a reactive proc selfbuff it would at least have a use...

i think this is just another zerg ability, if you are running with a zerg and your group is not really taking damage (or you have none) then at least you can cast this spell at some random enemies to be of some use

imo let them make something more useful like pulsing spell turn, would also be very interesting vs insta crap

 

[DaveyJones]

Give infs 2h weapons to pa with then

Also if they do nurf it to 5sec wonder what the chances are of then moving it to 24/25 spec in thrust same as the counterparts in other realms rather than having to spec to 50 Oo

so you would be happy to swap a 2h for 2.5specs sounds fair to me

 

[Damon_D]

gimme 2.5x and stun at 50.. I wouldnt complain.. more WS anyway and high-to-hit, high damage... complaining about DF afternerf is just retarded, its still a bloody good style fgs.

and the silly inf that really think it matters with 9s or 5s shouldnt play infil, then you are doing something very very very wrong tbh. When I land DB with NS i seldom loose, unless I get a VanishPA in the face or something freaky but I dont really complain at that and most use purge on stuns anyhow so who bloody cares but the ubarn00bs that only spam DS/DF or something similar.

poor infils.. ye... right... errm.. or something..

Put infs down to 2.2x, keep DF at 9s would be a far better solution on the other hand in my eyes, but we all know Mythic never ever will admit it was a mistake to give infs too many points but i guess Mythic has realized there is a problem with infils at least, gotta give em that.

AMEN !!!!

Infil's still ownz SB's.......

 

[Jacilja]

GUess my poor scout will have no choice but to drop thrust now and go be a bloody cookie cutter

Nm by time this comes my sorce will be 50

 

[atos]

That nerf was well deserved. Hope we will see less of the fg stealthers camping mgs (Yeah i wish).

About the buff removal. Try removing a thanes buffs.. HAH!
:worthy:

 

[remi]

5sec or 9sec doesnt matter...rly...

 

[nuky]

all this crap saying if u get this and that then we want to use 2h too.

free 2 hand usage is a special ability free to midgard only, just like albion get the use of plate like no other realm does. saying infils should get that is just idiotic.

 

[Shike]

5sec or 9sec doesnt matter...rly...

if it was on annihilation for instance it would make a major change, or slam etc.. then it really would matter alot

an assassin that kills anything very fast, stun opponent 5s and the opponent is mostly dead, the only thing that will change is that it will be harder to kill targets with IP for infils, so ranjas and hunters are gettin a benefit from this which imho they do need.

 

[XeffoInfil]

infs get 2.5 spec points because we dont get the nukes that NSs have (which is getting boosted) and the ability of SBs to wtfPA for shitloads with a 2h weapon. this evens it out with giving us a nice amount of damage output to match the other 2 mmkAY

say NO

....

TO DF NERF OK!

 

[Chimaira]

Emma thought u where retired

Also theres to many fucking infils anyway.
Hi der 1fg vs 1fg and 10 infils start PAing the enemies ><

I dont say the nerf aint needed. but its a strange way of making it.

 

[Morchaoron]

once sbs will become more powerful then infils, the number of infils will drop and the number of sbs will increase...

the desire to be fotm is very sltlong in people

all this crap saying if u get this and that then we want to use 2h too.

free 2 hand usage is a special ability free to midgard only, just like albion get the use of plate like no other realm does. saying infils should get that is just idiotic.

not saying sbs are that uber but what does plate have to do with infils?

 

[Aarween]

hmms... active stupidity should be illegal....

 

[nuky]

not saying sbs are that uber but what does plate have to do with infils?

jesus what is up with people nowadays.

each realm has their own wee unique thingies, mids is the free us of a 2hander, albs is the abiity to wear plate. people saying that infils should get to use 2 hander etc is just silly because the only reason SB's get to use it is the way the whole midgard realm as a whole is designed.

dont roll ur eyes, please - the plate thing was just to help prove my point with these people whining that they should be able to use 2handers because SB's can.

 

[Chimaira]

ahh so whole of midgard can use 2hander

then let whole of alb use plate

 

[Sharma]

ithe ability of SBs to wtfPA for shitloads with a 2h weapon.

heh, when i had my zerk, PAd by an SB in a duel for 700, next day in emain i get PAd by an infil for 850.

Yep free 2H rocks.

 

[SoulFly]

Nm by time this comes my sorce will be 50

Honestly, what good is in a HO sorc?

 

[Shike]

infs get 2.5 spec points because we dont get the nukes that NSs have (which is getting boosted) and the ability of SBs to wtfPA for shitloads with a 2h weapon. this evens it out with giving us a nice amount of damage output to match the other 2 mmkAY

say NO

....

TO DF NERF OK!

/chuckles.. you dont have a clue do you?

 

[Sharma]

The "nukes" NSs have do like, 30dmg?

 

[Tuppe]

dw halving evade 2h is not good option against other assasins.
hmm dunno where is specwise lowest stun sb can get?
laxe is 39 and last 6 sec.

hmm if remember correct they changed some style in axe or sword line in lower spec to give stun but didnt find any note when check fast.

and 2h option hunter whit spear is stucked to 2h weapon, atleast dont yet find 1h spear so 2h option isnt free to all mids.
h2h specced savages cannot use 2h weapons, or is there 2h h2h weapons?

 

[Marczje]

Hahaha at the infils crying, they will still have spec af, 2.5 spec pts and arent affected by str/con in ws decrease xD

Clueless muppets, u deserve this.

 

[nuky]

ahh so whole of midgard can use 2hander

then let whole of alb use plate

ur tanks already do have an extra 9% abs?