New Frontier in PVP. MANY ERRORS

Jaison X

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I wonder, if any of u are atleast a bit happy with the new addon in pvp servers.. this take no sense, that almost all things works bad, i will try to say all things that are obiously bad, and have to be fixed.

1st: I think this is the most important thing, all MLs etc, works in enemies, how can u explain it? i know, the "flag" in rvr servers is, that works for ur realm, is that hard to change that in pvp servers to affect only grp members and guildmembers? Also things like zephyr, who drag people from ur grp, or with many artefacts, (crocodile ring) that affect friendly, neutral, and enemies... please, we are a minority of players here, arround 1000, but we also pay our 12€ every month to play, and have a optimal service, so if any mythic or goa, i dont know rly who take care of europe, read this, plz try to fix these things.
2nd: Now from capitals u cant port DL etc, thats senseless in pvp server, before we could, since NF we cant, i think that have to be fixed.
3rd: As in rvr server.. keep sistem is made for zerg only in NF it seems, in camlann, how its possible to raid a lvl 10 keep, with 2fg max? with 5 defenders we cant alrdy. also from NF.. before, when we selected a name, it switches white, and is the one u have selected, but now, half names are whites, (same as rvr server...) that also takes no sense in PVP server! plz try to fix that also... i dont rly know if this worth to post it here, i know some gms may read this, i hope so :(

And another thing... we miss the realmwar map. Even if this dont work, its nice that we have it also, dont u think so? how we move arround frontiers, if we dont have that map? sure, taking a outgame map? searching maps in webs.. but whats about pvp service? we dont want that the map works like in rvr, showing fights etc, ok, but atleast that we can check it, to see the new frontiers... as the name says.. its NEW, and most of us dont know how to move arround em.

Well, also i dont know how u want us to get keeps, we CANT CONTROL TOWERS... we tryed yesterday raid a keep, how nice, we though, now we have a keep, lets take a relic, we go for a keep (was lvl 8), we though in take the nearest tower, and start breaking the keep. We go there, kk cant make siege there cos it must be claimed, so we was gonna claim it, and You cant claim because u alrdy control 1 outpost. WHAT?!?!! thats senseless, so anyone though A LITTLE BIT in pvp servers?.. i hope someone read this, and fix that obiously pvp bugs. 1000 guys will say thanks i guess. :eek:
 

Amelyn

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Kinda agree with some things, but most importent is more 8vs8 outside ToA :D :D fighting in ToA is soooo dull, more fights in classic kthx :wub:


/Mineya
 

sabbar

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I just say remove NF totaly, the new ra system screwed my shammy over realy good, tho the changes for my ranger was uber ( no crit specced stealther will ever land PA on me ). And as Duq said in previous post how are we supposed to take a keep to get relics now? Yeah i know ppl are gonna say Horde can zerg it but what about smaller guilds? Do Mythic/GoA waddeva wanna bring the RvR mentality to camlann or what. Logged warrior on prydwen for 10 minutes some days ago and i left very quick only because of the constant random zergs in emain. Maybe they want more alliance crap on camlann to get them nasty zergs rollin but i hope not and hopefully they do something about it
 

Pinp

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Give warmap..... kinda ruined without one, dunno where you are going x<
 

enkor

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+2, dont like the new RAs either

frontier changes dont really effect me... except they took my emain away! :(
 

Afran

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So hard to find action in the new frontiers ~
+3
 

Jaison X

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new bugs..

from djins u cant port (border mid, dont remember keep name), but there is the "button" to go there, but dont port.

when im at MY keep, being rank 0. i CANT OPEN chests cos Is of other realm.
wtf dear remove that realm frag from pvp server and make it guild only..

and BTW!!! how nice, now i can drag myself intoo zephyr, i dont know if this is a bug, or not.. but come on... wasnt bad enoough to drag grp members? now its totaly useles.

and adding....

Seeuig. Duq.
 

Ronso

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A good post jason ... I think its shit ..was playing with my merc yesterday and tbh I reckon just get rid of NF for pvp ..dont mind the ra system but get rid of all the rest of it and concentrate on fixing the countless bugs mythic or goa or whoever dont seem to give a shit about ... QQ
 

Nedo

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@sabbar

New RA system basically feck everyone up so ;)

Most support ra's are nerfed or gone, but things like MoC is nerfed so casters same problem, and det is nerfed alot so tanks actually cc'able atm. So imo most gets fecked by this and then you dont really need to remove it.

Most silly thing still in NF....sorc free RR5 ability...cmon...tis a joke.....
 

Bahumat

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erm methinks armsmans running while shooting cross bow is a joke.....or FoTM
 

Bufferbabe

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Bufferbabe

Thank god i finally managed to kick the habit and quit DAOC for good. It is more pain then pleasure to play this game if you ask me... The time it takes to be competitive on Camlaan - leveling artifacts and having to spend weeks running around killing as many people as you can so you can stay competitive rp wise, thats if you are lucky enough to make it to level 50 and get into a good guild. Is the game actually fun anymore? We all like to think the game takes skill to play (a few classes i am sure do). But each char that you can play is extremely limited in the number of actions you can do to win a fight. Who ever heard of a wizard who only has bolt, DD and root spells? (Not like DD where u have countless spells and can change a battle considerably.)

I have to apologise to Jaison for Hijacking his thread. I don't know where this is all coming from.. hmm i guess its because this is the first time i have posted anything regarding DAOC since i have quit. But his sentiments echoe some of the reasons why i left: Does GOA/mythic give a f**k about us at all?

So many simple things they can fix but don't. They spend ages on a patch are they not supposed to think about the effects that they are going to have on everyone who plays the game? Do they employ a bunch of morons who cant raise the issue "How can we implement the changes onto PvP server?" or do they just not care about us at all? I personally feel that the latter one is true. It's a shame that we have to pay our money and recieve this sort of shoddy service.

I would also like to say "Hello" to all my former freinds and enemies on Camlaan. I am glad to see Nexus is doing well. It's nice to see the names of a people who i got to know making posts and see whats happening in the DAOC world. I am amazed that some people have managed to stay playing this game for so long. But i wish you all a lot of luck and hope you find happiness in any course you take.

Bufferbabe out.
 

Oli7er

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Heh, u look at things only from your own fotm view. There is lots more to enjoy in this game besindes being in a 'good guild' and 'owning all'.
And how can you talk about technical issues that you obviously know NOTHING about? Try reading some posts regarding the translation of patches for instance. People writing endless posts and complaints, and then finally a GM explains that everything is done absolutely differently than everyone thought and - whack - suddenly everyone is speechless. Sure you had a bad day, but please...

converting people into your own beliefs will NOT make your beliefs any righter
 

Bahumat

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bufferbabe what you said about competativeness is completeley true. daoc has become like darwin theory of evolution. if you dont play all day and get all your arte's ml's etc you cant compete. i play daoc for fun and thats what i have. i dont wana have to spend 1 week leveling in some grotty cave to earn xp on an arte. i feel i do fine in daoc but if they start bringing in more things to buy/level i dont know how much more i can take

also oli7er what you say has some truth in but the problem of the class representative or gm's is they may not have enough weight behind there say. i do think they are trying to help our class's but when they get put on the spot it appears that goa/mythic think fuck all of their opinions
 

Jaison X

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Im not asking for heavy changes here, but just the obiously ones... please they do rvr paths and split em in pvp server, but i think, they dont check anything, after everypath, there are more bugs in camlann, bugs that are SO DAMN OBIOUSLY.. i still think, we should pay less.. cos we dont get GM service, or customer service, only thing we get is a server.
 

Bahumat

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i also noticed that rvr gets kind of fixed then they leave pvp. bugs are fixed on rvr yet not on pvp.

the bug abusers like boblefouhahah hiding bb's underground must have been reported yet nothing happens
 

Oli7er

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The way i see it: obviously the initial game idea was built upon Realm vs Realm, thus, the game development is directed towards RvR. Now some guy at some time had this great idea to run a PvP mod and mythic thought why not. Still, PvP population is a MINORITY (3%?) and therefore does not get as much attention as the mainstream RvR population. Remember that we chose to play this server. I do not care about all the scammers and bugusers and flamers on the server, thats what it makes it fun for me. Also i do not need to have TOP gear artes and such... its all down to the player: get yourself a SI sc and you will do FINE. anyways back to the matter at hand. I have NO idea whatsoever how the patching on PvP server exists or what the legal issues are regarding game modification, but i am sure that if something can be done, it will be, in its due time. I choose to play this mod of daoc, and i accept that it OBVIOUSLY doesn't get as much attention as RvR - if i dont like it any more - i leave or play RvR, easy as that.
 

Bufferbabe

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oli7er wrote: Heh, u look at things only from your own fotm view. There is lots more to enjoy in this game besindes being in a 'good guild' and 'owning all'.

Ok, perhaps i have got it wrong. I was under the impression that people played on pvp server despite all the initail ganking and frustration because they were looking for a challenge or to have some good pvp. I know that everyone's personal reason is different - some might be simply bored on normal server others sick of the zerg on rvr servers and are looking for a few smaller scale battles. Are you telling me that you created Mithrilio your NS for any other purpose than to pvp?

I agree that there is alot more to DAOC than being competitive and "wtfpwning" but i think that most of the people who play it for the social aspect or as a giant "chatroom" are on the RvR servers. Nobody puts in the blood sweat and tears of leveling a toon to 50 on pvp server unless they have some sort of competetive streak in them.

All i am saying - and this is all personal opinion so please feel free to dispute or disagree with me - is that the general service received by those on pvp servers is not adequate and i find the game itself does not offer much. I tried a free trail of the Saga of Ryzom (another online rpg) and it made me wonder why i had put up with so much frustration in daoc. But this is all personal opinion, you may find daoc great fun and very stimulating in which case good luck to you.
 

haarewin

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all the bugs you reported are KNOWN BUGS which are still not fixed in the US version afaik.
they only have 1 PvP server there too, and it's pretty much ignored by mythic, like Camlann is by GOA.
 

Bahumat

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saying pvp is 3% of the game is way off. it used to be 3000 ppl on alb pryd or mid excal at peak times and 700-800 on pvp. if you now look its pretty much 1500 each of the 3 servers. ok mid excal may have a few more but pvp has become more popular.
 

Damion

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You think goa isent aware of many of the bugs? they dont care, and probably wont care at all about this thread either. :kissit:
 

Aithe

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Bahumat said:
bufferbabe what you said about competativeness is completeley true. daoc has become like darwin theory of evolution. if you dont play all day and get all your arte's ml's etc you cant compete.

I have 1 artie, no procs, all my jewelry quested. I'd still kill you.
 

Aithe

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Bahumat said:
saying pvp is 3% of the game is way off. it used to be 3000 ppl on alb pryd or mid excal at peak times and 700-800 on pvp. if you now look its pretty much 1500 each of the 3 servers. ok mid excal may have a few more but pvp has become more popular.


another fine example of how stupid you can get.
 

Ronso

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Careful Bahumat ..hell get his revenge when he beats you in cs playing rats with an awp ..

be afraid ..
 

Kicks

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Aithe has pwned himself so I wouldn't worry about flames lol
 

Ronso

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Ronso takes Guard / Protect / Bg off bahumat...and /curtesys kicks
 

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