New DET5

[Osri]

Is lollish...didnt even notice being cc´d whole night with charge 3, det 5...seems grapple and slam are only "cc" that is noticeable.

 

[Belomar]

Over-the-fricking-top. Keep the new Determination as it is, but Charge has got to go. Not only will it reduce some of the inbalances of tanks vs casters, it will also even the playing field between light tanks and heavy tanks.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Now they should remove OP'ed charge from you and give it to Heros/Warriors/Armsman and we have some balance between the various tank classes.

 

[Niko]

Is lollish...didnt even notice being cc´d whole night with charge 3, det 5...seems grapple and slam are only "cc" that is noticeable.

Yep, must rox for skillgard!

 

[Gazon]

Now they should remove OP'ed charge from you and give it to Heros/Warriors/Armsman and we have some balance between the various tank classes.

I'm so happy Manish has an Armsman

 

[Heta]

As I said in some posts before, bye bye caster, hello tanks. Impossible to keep a caster in a group alive if a 4 tank assist train with charge and det is in the oposing group. We got the bitter taste of that on US when mids started running 4 zerker groups against us. I love det 5 on my pala tho root used to be such a pain, its baerly noticable now.

 

[xxManiacxx]

Haven´t played my SM yet in guildgrp since patch. Seems like it will quite a challenge.

 

[Xxcalibur]

rly op det 5 + charge 3

 

[Gahn]

Haven´t played my SM yet in guildgrp since patch. Seems like it will quite a challenge.

Well that depends on % intercept u get from it

 

[Heta]

all casters are free rps now for a melee train group, there realy is nothing out there that can stop a banelord+charge3+det5 tank train , put a BG in the way and they just mow him down aswell

 

[xxManiacxx]

Try and "mow" down a RR5 warrior with tets : )-

 

[Elendar]

had some n00blet healers in grp yesterday and got killed with warguard and battler charge up with gahn hitting me for 20 a swing
nerf charge!

 

[Heta]

Try and "mow" down a RR5 warrior with tets : )-

was talking from mid perspectiv! (well I can say that now atleast)

damn OP warriors.. I die way to fast as pala when 4 zerkers are beating on me

 

[Puppet]

Now they should remove OP'ed charge from you and give it to Heros/Warriors/Armsman and we have some balance between the various tank classes.

Leaving Vampiirs as a class without Charge and without Determination or Stoicism would totally kill the class. Ridicilious my Ranger has access to Determination, but my Vampiir does not.

Once again Mythic showing they dont have a clue I guess :S

 

[Maeloch]

Think with stacked warguard + BoF3 you're looking at light tanks hitting for under 50 mainhand. Warlord clerics 4tehwin.

 

[Yunio]

3 sm + bd group...

 

[brad]

Long Live Tank Love, also known as LLTL

 

[Gahn]

had some n00blet healers in grp yesterday and got killed with warguard and battler charge up with gahn hitting me for 20 a swing
nerf charge!

Doh strange since last night i was in Deep Volcanus and then getting ML1 with my shade

 

[Samaroon EatsCheese]

can't wait till Sunday so i can try it out. ^^

 

[Martok]

osril your right det 5 + charge 3 = the win.

 

[Kinag]

Friar with Det5

 

[saitoh]

well if paladin and friar have det5 . just stick on the enemy MA tank and bg or grapple ?

 

[Arethir]

There's only albs that HAS to run caster in groups now.

 

[Martok]

There's only albs that HAS to run caster in groups now.

pfft no we dont, we never used to back in si on the tank assist trains

tbh Cleric Cleric Mincer Merc Merc Merc/arms Pally sorc/thurg.

 

[Voltage]

what's DET5 like on tanks without stoic? interested in trying it on my reaver

 

[Heta]

pfft no we dont, we never used to back in si on the tank assist trains

tbh Cleric Cleric Mincer Merc Merc Merc/arms Pally sorc/thurg.

that is funny.. you say you dont have to run a caster in group.. then list either sorc or thurg

tho a alb group prolly work without sorc or thurg just fine aswell

Cleric, Cleric, Mincer, Paladin, Merc, Merc, Merc/Arms, Merc/Arms

well, be fun to try atleast

 

[Martok]

its good you only stay mezzed for about another 10 secounds after mercs :worthy:

 

[Heta]

what's DET5 like on tanks without stoic? interested in trying it on my reaver

you will notice the CC, tho roots etc wont last long, was a pain before, now its a minor glitch

 

[charmangle]

Well its the anticipated tankalot patch...

Well what can one say...

Its the anticipated tankalot patch.
Mythic didnt like having full groups with 3-4 tanks 1-3 casters and 3-4 seers. (a nice balance of classes, why would that be fun) They wanted the old 4-5 tanks no casters 3-4 seers back and banish casters to stand in towers for hours.

They basically just didnt think it through and came up with probably the worst idea they could have. CC is a pain for everyone not just tanks and making them and only them totally cc immune has to be one of the most inept and stupid 'fix' so far. Every one and his aunt knew the result from the second the patch notes were released on the US servers. But somehow that never reached the brains of the Mythic team...the meaning of this have to have gotten lost somewhere between their ears and their apparently minimal brains.

Wonder why they force the crap patch of argamond on caster players when its apparent that they only want the casters to recide in towers in NF...

/Charmangle

 

[Maeloch]

what's DET5 like on tanks without stoic? interested in trying it on my reaver

If my maths are right, longest mez/root lasts 7-8s with stoic + deter5, without stoic lasts about 16-18s.