Mythic gone over the top again?

[rvn]

Well, with 5.6 spd sword, 68 sword, 10% melee bonus my cap is 486 dmg. This would cap out at 972 dmg, and with maximum dmg of 1457 dmg, for zerkers it would be 1943 dmg.

However, unstyled attacks are alot easier to block, and savages wich mainly use 1.4x GR styles wont gian so much from it (also loose stuns). This ability would not be overpowred vs a propper grp who has bodyguard/guard.

 

[snoz]

Frontiers (1.70) is not even in open beta yet, so id forget panicing or making huge statements yet. Whats point.

 

[rvn]

they open it tomorrow ive heard but still most abilitys will be nerfed before we get them

 

[snoz]

they open it tomorrow ive heard but still most abilitys will be nerfed before we get them

Yep my post was not directed at u btw .. just @ whole thread.

Can't see point in huge debate "OMFG MATES NERF" etc when its no where near live in usa. No way will mythic let all class's do that damage.

 

[Gahn]

Och

Main problem is Mythic is developing based on US experience where, it seems to me, they need i win button to finish off quicker large zergs, erm WTF i mean 2000 dmg per second on paper? either from casters or tank perspective doesn't make difference: this game becoming more and more the more dmg in 1st 3 sec i can deal = i won ... not fun that is imo

 

[Ctuchik]

Make savages become neverlosemode eh remish?xD

read what the other classes benefit from that Ra, Like champs and zerkers.. Savages isnt going to be half as nasty as u wanna make it sound imo...

and look at the dmg the log shows from the alb casters with ZERO power relics... WD isnt going to be the main problem here....

Quote from that very thread

High rank DD casters are going to own the field, once again.

They will get 28% more damage, 30-40% chance to crit, along with some other RAs.

At least you can see pbae incoming and run the hell away, not much you can do when DD casters drop you in 2-3 casts(depending on what class you are)

so even with 26% magic resist ur gonna be hit for a fuckload of damage from casters with those ra's add their debuffs aswell and THEN u can have /release on Qbar

 

[Kahland]

No reason to worry about something thats not here yet...

 

[Pudzy]

nice, no more styleing, just f8+stick. i liek it

You never styled anyway strafer boi

 

[atos]

tbh if they are planning to up caster damage like that, they should first of all revome all types of +castspeed and +dex buffs. So the cast time really is 2.8 sec or whatever.

IMO! :kissit:

 

[Equendil]

tbh if they are planning to up caster damage like that, they should first of all revome all types of +castspeed and +dex buffs. So the cast time really is 2.8 sec or whatever.

IMO! :kissit:

You seriously need to play a caster in RvR if you think 2.8s a cast is fine.

 

[atos]

I play a thane. I manage even with my casttime. ~~

 

[Equendil]

I play a thane. I manage even with my casttime. ~~

Try a Runie or SM with no dex buff, no dex on your gear, no Mastery of the Art, no +cast speed, and we talk.

 

[Sycho]

Seems mercs/zerks might actually hit like savages afterall xD

http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img5&image=sshot283.jpg

 

[Sycho]

read what the other classes benefit from that Ra, Like champs and zerkers.. Savages isnt going to be half as nasty as u wanna make it sound imo...

and look at the dmg the log shows from the alb casters with ZERO power relics... WD isnt going to be the main problem here....

4x600-700 without crits with dps buff not nasty?

Zerks/mercs/bm hitting 400s unstyled each hand with it, this RA has no mention of a nerf yet but it probably will get nerfed before we get frontiers, i hope some of the others do too...

 

[atos]

Still think they cast too fast. Never said anything about +dex on armour tho.

If you assist nuke the castspeed matters alot. It's like facing 4 prenerf zerks at once. Impossible to keep anyone alive etc.

 

[Ctuchik]

4x600-700 without crits with dps buff not nasty?

not compared to the caster RA's no tank dmg is the least im gonna worry about in new frontier as a support class.. its the casters im really gonna fear...

 

[Ctuchik]

Still think they cast too fast. Never said anything about +dex on armour tho.

If you assist nuke the castspeed matters alot. It's like facing 4 prenerf zerks at once. Impossible to keep anyone alive etc.

same goes for a good tank grp assisting. whats ur point? keep having casters useless in rvr?

as someone said. u need to play a caster before thinking u know the class

casting to fast?? i cant imagine u complaining if a healer in ur grp have red celerity...... if ur gonna nerf mages castingspeed u need to nerf celerity and every damned haste buff in the game... "coz u hit to fast" geez

 

[Brunore]

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see its not that much different

 

[Shike]

Still think they cast too fast. Never said anything about +dex on armour tho.

If you assist nuke the castspeed matters alot. It's like facing 4 prenerf zerks at once. Impossible to keep anyone alive etc.

have you ever tried to keep alive a caster atm from one savage that is good geared and high RR?

I get 2-3shotted pretty much all the time atm. Thats 1.5-3 seconds. Then put 2 savages on assist and its instadeath to 1.5s.

What on earth are you crying about? And if 3 casters are assistnuking and stuff doesnt die fast, mind if I ask you wtf you except casters to do? Nuke once and then die or stand like a goon in the aoespams until we die or cast for a short while moc is up once every 30mins?

Seems to me that you simply dont have a single clue about how it actually is to play atm, either kill uberfast, or get killed uberfast, be it tanks (mids mainly) or casters, doesnt really matter.

I agree that maybe the damages has gone thru the roof in DAoC but tbh, it doesnt only apply to casters as you seem to think.

 

[Fadeh]

I agree that maybe the damages has gone thru the roof in DAoC

Less dmg in albion post toa

 

[Dorin]

have you ever tried to keep alive a caster atm from one savage that is good geared and high RR?

I get 2-3shotted pretty much all the time atm. Thats 1.5-3 seconds. Then put 2 savages on assist and its instadeath to 1.5s.

What on earth are you crying about? And if 3 casters are assistnuking and stuff doesnt die fast, mind if I ask you wtf you except casters to do? Nuke once and then die or stand like a goon in the aoespams until we die or cast for a short while moc is up once every 30mins?

Seems to me that you simply dont have a single clue about how it actually is to play atm, either kill uberfast, or get killed uberfast, be it tanks (mids mainly) or casters, doesnt really matter.

I agree that maybe the damages has gone thru the roof in DAoC but tbh, it doesnt only apply to casters as you seem to think.

pbae killing 30+ enemies not fair either tho :> but it is considered as skill, hmm

 

[Shike]

Less dmg in albion post toa

hmm, howcome? 10% bonuses, increased statcap etc. /ponders

 

[Shike]

pbae killing 30+ enemies not fair either tho :>

if 30 ppl is so stupid that NOBODY purge and either mez or slam or do something, then they deserve to get their ass whooped tbh. Most people just seem to panic and start to hit on moccing PBAERS, guess wot, that dont help, you just die then.

and nope, pressing moc+sprint+pbae inside tons of enemies aint really skilled. Never claimed that and never will, but it sure as hell is fun to see ppl spread like little burning bee's.

 

[Fadeh]

hmm, howcome? 10% bonuses, increased statcap etc. /ponders

bodyguard + grapple

+

25% more healing etc

 

[Shike]

bodyguard + grapple

+

25% more healing etc

bodyguard is a bitch for tanks yep.. grapple isnt as bad anymore since the one that take you out also get stunned. One for one is a fair deal tbh.

I thought you meant that your actual damage had gone down for some reason.

 

[Corran]

bodyguard is a bitch for tanks yep.. grapple isnt as bad anymore since the one that take you out also get stunned. One for one is a fair deal tbh.

I thought you meant that your actual damage had gone down for some reason.

enemy AF is higher due to bonus's so dmg is down there. Ok not alot but still a bit

 

[atos]

I refuse to accept the fact that a caster can take away 2k HPs in 6sec. :< Not even that much. 4 maybe.

 

[Shike]

I refuse to accept the fact that a caster can take away 2k HPs in 6sec. :< Not even that much. 4 maybe.

surf into www.whitelion-whenthechildrencry.dk imo

 

[Edlina]

I refuse to accept the fact that a caster can take away 2k HPs in 6sec. :< Not even that much. 4 maybe.

You gotta be kidding... Svgs have been able to do that for quite a few patches alrdy.