my dream warden would be

Spetsnaz

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my dream warden would be a warden with shild spec (yay) and 2979 spec points

his spec would be
49 nurt
42 regro
39 shild
10 weapon
6 parry

and ofc Mastery of blocking RA

hahaahahhaahaha


and dmg table of hybrid prabably but thats too much :twak:
 

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i agree about the shield spec part, and i would like to see boosted melee damage so wardens can at least do something except being bg bots
 

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actually im quite happy with my dmg (12 blades atmo and spamming only ml styles essence flames/essence debuff/powerleak when needed)
doing 120-150 dmg per hit with traitors
still would love some dmg boost!!!


anyway why oh why they took mastery of blocking from us...
 

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Uhm warden with TWF 3 + grapple... don't be greedy and moan for slam aswell :(
 

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Spetsnaz said:
my dream warden would be a warden with shild spec (yay) and 2979 spec points

his spec would be
49 nurt
42 regro
39 shild
10 weapon
6 parry

and ofc Mastery of blocking RA

hahaahahhaahaha


and dmg table of hybrid prabably but thats too much :twak:
Solari said:
Uhm warden with TWF 3 + grapple... don't be greedy and moan for slam aswell
read his spec, there is no slam :touch: but if they did have a shield spec it would persuade me to roll one .. given they get higher points to spend ... and gov + all other arti's get a 2s respawn time so that i could actually MAKE a template ... and infinate chance to make MP scale for 1g XD

I would like to see 2 x level on vamp + stealth spec ... climb wall with no stealth ... veeeeeeeeeery clever
 

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Wardens r OP! They get cure poison and disiased in the 1,79! Such op class! NERF IT PLEASE! xDDD
 

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Wardens have been discussing the option for a shield spec (or semi-spec in the shield line) for several years (long before ToA). It has been discussed with the Mythic TL's time and time again, everytime the general feeling is that with shield spec the warden would be too difficult to kill. A self-healing, self-buffing tank cc specialist with shield spec, parry spec, scale wearing, battlemaster option, bladeturn and the best haste buff in the business? Polish up the nerf bat if it ever happens :)
 

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Tallen said:
Wardens have been discussing the option for a shield spec (or semi-spec in the shield line) for several years (long before ToA). It has been discussed with the Mythic TL's time and time again, everytime the general feeling is that with shield spec the warden would be too difficult to kill. A self-healing, self-buffing tank cc specialist with shield spec, parry spec, scale wearing, battlemaster option, bladeturn and the best haste buff in the business? Polish up the nerf bat if it ever happens :)

it wont be overpowered. who teh fuck whines about wardens when you have SMs and Sorcs?
 

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just remove parry and give shield imo and a couple more spec points
 

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Tallen said:
Wardens have been discussing the option for a shield spec (or semi-spec in the shield line) for several years (long before ToA). It has been discussed with the Mythic TL's time and time again, everytime the general feeling is that with shield spec the warden would be too difficult to kill. A self-healing, self-buffing tank cc specialist with shield spec, parry spec, scale wearing, battlemaster option, bladeturn and the best haste buff in the business? Polish up the nerf bat if it ever happens :)
similar to the heretic :p

heretic buff spec:
af
str
con
dex
self, s/c
anyone damage add
self, af (stackable)
self, pierce magic (for focus)
self, damage add (stackable)
absorb (up to 30%)
buff shear proc (LOL)
grp damage add

they have shield spec, no parry, 2 x level points ... so you know ... a well specced heretic would be similar to paladin o_O

so behmoths idea of removing parry for shield wouldn't be bad ... as long as warden got extra spec points

oh ... and heretic can be banelord :eek6:
 

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RandomDotCom said:
they have shield spec, no parry, 2 x level points ... so you know ... a well specced heretic would be similar to paladin o_O
No a heretic uses a small shield and no plate. they go down lightning fast to any real tank. Heretic is a very weak class, I wouldnt want to run with one.
 

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Tallen said:
Wardens have been discussing the option for a shield spec (or semi-spec in the shield line) for several years (long before ToA). It has been discussed with the Mythic TL's time and time again, everytime the general feeling is that with shield spec the warden would be too difficult to kill. A self-healing, self-buffing tank cc specialist with shield spec, parry spec, scale wearing, battlemaster option, bladeturn and the best haste buff in the business? Polish up the nerf bat if it ever happens :)
And still wardens are the easiest BG'er to kill ;x
 

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RandomDotCom said:
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read his spec, there is no slam :touch: but if they did have a shield spec it would persuade me to roll one .. given they get higher points to spend ... and gov + all other arti's get a 2s respawn time so that i could actually MAKE a template ... and infinate chance to make MP scale for 1g XD
tbh if you made a poll:" Spec 39 or 42 shield guess the outcome? need I say more?
 

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Solari said:
tbh if you made a poll:" Spec 39 or 42 shield guess the outcome? need I say more?

ok here comes shild spec warden: (if we get those extra spec points)
49 nurt
42 shild
33 regro
rest wreapon
(asuming we lose parry)


btw with campion levels perchaps its possible to get some shild spec i still didnt understand the full concept of those lvls...
 

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that would be a nice spec.......dreams in the distant future a warden with some use
 

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Ballard said:
No a heretic uses a small shield and no plate. they go down lightning fast to any real tank. Heretic is a very weak class, I wouldnt want to run with one.
i expected more from you mikos ... no plate .. true ... BUT ... 360 af buff stackable with baseline af buff + 30% abs buff. You would in fact take similar damage to a paladin who has 2 x lower af buff and 35% abs (unless you have a sight necro adding 9%). The main difference of course being paladin = con primary stat and heretic = piety (?) primary stat

The size of the shield makes little difference if all you are doing is being a slammer.

But i agree ... would never run with one. RvR utility is so low it hurts. Seige utility is yummy though.
 

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I agree it does all sound good in theory, but unfortunetly in practice it doesnt quite work out that way. The survivability is low as they have low hit points, 30% ABS, and a small shield that can only block one opponent. If you spec enhance for all those things and slam it leaves you with a maximum weapon skill of weapon spec 39. i.e. not very much damage output as you also dont have any of the damage spells.

By all means try and justify one for a group but it will not be because of their survivability, it just really isnt that good. They survive better than a caster but not by huge amounts.

You cannot compare that to the survivability of a paladin with 2200 hitpoints, over 1000AF , 42% ABS and a large shield.
 

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Mastade said:
And still wardens are the easiest BG'er to kill ;x
And so they should be. They aren't tanks, they are a hybrid healer class.

I'm all in favour of a semi-shield spec for Wardens (maybe a spec line thats a combo of parry/shield or the capped spec level of 50% suggested on the Wall) but not giving them the full shield line. Just a bit too much imo. ;)
 

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Tallen said:
And so they should be. They aren't tanks, they are a hybrid healer class.

I'm all in favour of a semi-shield spec for Wardens (maybe a spec line thats a combo of parry/shield or the capped spec level of 50% suggested on the Wall) but not giving them the full shield line. Just a bit too much imo. ;)
I agree, giving full shield spec would be a bit too much. You can always dream tho ;) - As i mentioned earlier, i have no idea why they removed Moblocking for wardens.. retards@mythic imo.

If they would ever put in shield spec for wardens, i dont think we would "need" extra points imo. Wardens spec so high nurture/regrowth cuz there are no other good alternative. The alternative would be weapon spec, but most wardens agree that putting points in weapon spec is a bit pointless. Especially when you consider the use of battlemaster styles.
 

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ok at least gif us the MoB bk again......would be something
 

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whos the BOT? i didnt saw any wardens bots so far
 

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Thread made my wonder, how often is albions actually wearing necro abs buff? stealthers does this alot? or? Seems some scouts can be really hard to kill melee, so that could be mp 19% abs armor+spec af,+9abs ?
 

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