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[censi]

i think he is getting more at the point that you seem to not like peeps that run from you to avoid death... but when you knew he was gonna pwn you.... well you ran?

im guessing though...

You could therefore even deduce that your rant about peeps running is more your frustration over loosing RP's.

 

[aika]

so name a class which requires more skill than an assasin to play then??

lining up a PA on a moving target can be hard especially when your trying to intercept his path if you not camping a choke point... prolly the most difficult manuver to pull off in the game I would say.. although I was somewhat proud of my side stun openers.

and I can list prolly 10 changes that are made specifically to align 1v1 encounters in daoc that have little or no bearing on widescale RVR or FG RVR. If you thought it through over the patches you could prolly come up with 100's... the vast majority of all changes to archers and assasins are to balance their effectiveness against each other in 1v1 scenarios...

quoting mythic is never a good way to make a point tbh... its like the bible... you can literally take your pick suit your needs.. and they contradict previous design statements with every patch....

I played a Melee Ranger and I play a crit spec inf and I can tell you that landing Ice Storm on moving target is harder than lining up PA on moving target.

 

[Nuxtobatns]

Is there no tomato in that burger ??? why ?

 

[trycorn]

I played a Melee Ranger and I play a crit spec inf and I can tell you that landing Ice Storm on moving target is harder than lining up PA on moving target.

depending on what target, if its a guy on autorun its just as easy, if its a guy who move around abit its alot more challenging to land pa than ice storm

 

[aika]

depending on what target, if its a guy on autorun its just as easy, if its a guy who move around abit its alot more challenging to land pa than ice storm

Of course its all situational, just generally its harder to land side style than frontal

 

[disdain]

Of course its all situational, just generally its harder to land side style than frontal

yeah, the fact that there are 2 sides but only 1 front speaks for it!

 

[Lethul]

yeah, the fact that there are 2 sides but only 1 front speaks for it!

not to mention side arcs are bigger!

 

[Gear]

Right. I am mashing anytimes with my assa and coming on top of most fights easily.

Skill? I don't think so.

The last couple of days I found out why you believe that daoc has no skill involved whatsoever

And you might want to reconsider if you're coming on top on fights (even with the DI cleric you legged it and vanished )

Skilled player indeed :worthy:

 

[tierk]

Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at birth?

This made me laugh and i mean laugh, people at work were looking at me like oi wtf!!

 

[Solari]

This made me laugh and i mean laugh, people at work were looking at me like oi wtf!!

Wtf mate go to work and marry that woman of yours! xD

 

[Shike]

watched the vid now and I think it was good, nice to see what a vamp is capable of

also showed stinbox roxstar again heh, funny how that muppet shows up in most vids making an ass of him all the time.

Good qual, ok music, okish fights, the enemys seemed a tad stupid though? Maybe its just me thinking so..

 

[Matmardigan]

Dasn Witz, oder?

no joke. Mc Donalds austria offers it.

Is there no tomato in that burger ??? why ?

guess it would looks to much like a Royal TS then.

 

[Succi]

giv working link

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Oh not that old chestnut again, I hear the same bollocks in every pvp game.

In pvp to win you need to:

* Generally have a clue what you're trying to do
* Know off by heart the best attack pattens vs each class (including best damage types)
* Have decent enough reaction times and be flexible when things don't go quite as planned
* Know how to position yourself for best advantage
* Know when to attack, and when to run
* Have put sufficent effort into gear / RRs
* Have buffs if on a regular server
* Have a bit of luck (quite a few things you can do to engineer luck tho)

It takes time and effort to get to the stage where all the above are second nature, and that is the very essence of what skill is - something you had to work at to achieve.

If you only use anytimes and nothing else, I can see why you might think there is no skill, I'd also suspect you also owned a lot.

I played far more competetive online games than DAoC including some FPS and EVE Online, DAoC 1 vs 1 is for simpletons. But keep deluding yourself if it keeps you happy. DAoC becomes more complex when more players are involved but I only mean 1 vs 1 situations here.

There is no skill involved in coming out of stealth with mega DPS and getting a 7s stun in off a 2 style off evade chain after someone purged something else and taking him down. Never will be.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

The last couple of days I found out why you believe that daoc has no skill involved whatsoever

And you might want to reconsider if you're coming on top on fights (even with the DI cleric you legged it and vanished )

Skilled player indeed :worthy:

You are the perfect example why FH is full of idiots and trust me, for a RR7 NS you're the same embaressment like 99% of the stealthers out there at the moment.

I killed your NS on my RR4 Infi a fair amount of times, if you think killing me with Viper3 and ~30 RA points more to spent is worth flaming me while I don't have access to remedy I want some of the drugs you're taking too.

Also what DI Cleric are you refering to please? None of my bots has DI and I never was grouped with any Cleric bar my bots on my Infi. :touch:

I also didn't say that DAoC has no skill involved whatsoever, learn to read, learn to quote.

 

[disdain]

in what fps game did you make a career with arrow-keys?

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

in what fps game did you make a career with arrow-keys?

Nothing for you, no HoT for head shots and no gray con mobs for powering up either.

 

[censi]

what a lemon...

 

[tierk]

You are the perfect example why FH is full of idiots and trust me.....

Says the biggest cock on here. Its like a endless river of shit just spewing out, on and on, it never ends it never stops. After reading you posting on here for a while now i have to say you seem like a twat that would probably get his head kicked in in the first public place you went into after spending five mins inside cause of your mouth.

 

[Shike]

Says the biggest cock on here. Its like a endless river of shit just spewing out, on and on, it never ends it never stops. After reading you posting on here for a while now i have to say you seem like a twat that would probably get his head kicked in in the first public place you went into after spending five mins inside cause of your mouth.

just use the ignorefunction man, saves you alot of time since he post an awful much of rubbish and also saves you some moments where you shake your head and think, god how many floors did he actually fall as a kid?

by far the easiest solution imho.

 

[censi]

how do you /ignore someone on FH pls.. the fh icons are a bit borked for me atm

 

[Eleasias]

I actually agree on something with Manisch, dont think DAoC 1v1 is very skillful in most cases.

 

[Shike]

how do you /ignore someone on FH pls.. the fh icons are a bit borked for me atm

click on the persons name, pick watch profile and inthere select add to ignore, something like that iirc.

 

[Shike]

I actually agree on something with Manisch, dont think DAoC 1v1 is very skillful in most cases.

these days its far less of it involved thats for sure and that I can agree on. Now its more about who have what timer up or not sadly :/

Classbalance 1on1 nowadays is totally screwed up aswell ontop of that. Valks, wardens, vamps, maulers!!, lolltappcasters, armsmen, etc..

It used to be better at least but hey, Mythic said it aint a 1on1 game so.. /shrug

 

[Tuthmes]

these days its far less of it involved thats for sure and that I can agree on. Now its more about who have what timer up or not sadly :/

Classbalance 1on1 nowadays is totally screwed up aswell ontop of that. Valks, wardens, vamps, maulers!!, lolltappcasters, armsmen, etc..

It used to be better at least but hey, Mythic said it aint a 1on1 game so.. /shrug

Vamps?

 

[Shike]

Vamps?

Mmm? Try go up vs a good vamp on light tanks and some other classes, it aint even funny man

(also, its the only buffless class in the game where u just need a hastebuff from items and yer sorted, that alone in itself is actually quite damn unbalanced and every realm should have some sort of counterpart for those who simply cant run buffbots)

 

[Tuthmes]

Mmm? Try go up vs a good vamp on light tanks and some other classes, it aint even funny man

(also, its the only buffless class in the game where u just need a hastebuff from items and yer sorted, that alone in itself is actually quite damn unbalanced and every realm should have some sort of counterpart for those who simply cant run buffbots)

It's also a 1 weapon wielder, not 2h also. Wearing leather (!), no stoi, not beeing able to spec det. Certainly doesnt have the power return like a mauler does. It also depends on spec on how well it does vs certain enemy's, but overall a vamp does a hard time vs any shield user, 2h arms, merc's, (good) assasin's. Certainly l8tly you can't call a vamp overpowered, even with omni proc's.
I will agree that having a HoT on any melee class is kinda stupid though.
On the counterparts an heretic can run without a bb you know, so can a friar and a warden. And the vamp self "buffs/stats" are quite a bit lower then normal buffs are.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Says the biggest cock on here. Its like a endless river of shit just spewing out, on and on, it never ends it never stops. After reading you posting on here for a while now i have to say you seem like a twat that would probably get his head kicked in in the first public place you went into after spending five mins inside cause of your mouth.

So what are you trying to tell me beside of the random flaming bullshit I have to read now and then? That I actually run with a DI bot stuck to my Infi in RvR and that Gaer is correct and not just another idiot making stuff up?

As for your real life analogy, it's absurd.

 

[Shike]

It's also a 1 weapon wielder, not 2h also. Wearing leather (!), no stoi, not beeing able to spec det. Certainly doesnt have the power return like a mauler does. It also depends on spec on how well it does vs certain enemy's, but overall a vamp does a hard time vs any shield user, 2h arms, merc's, (good) assasin's. Certainly l8tly you can't call a vamp overpowered, even with omni proc's.
I will agree that having a HoT on any melee class is kinda stupid though.
On the counterparts an heretic can run without a bb you know, so can a friar and a warden. And the vamp self "buffs/stats" are quite a bit lower then normal buffs are.

1h but with a claw that passes BG and shields/parry, I havent fought vamps in a while now though, gotta admit that. Maybe things have changed but overall its a very very solid class from what ive seen and from my encounters with them. Vamp was just an example of a class that perform really well, not necessarily overpowered, what I originally wanted to say was that classbalance overall is shit atm when it comes to 1on1, wasnt specifically aimed at vamps tbh. I also dont think you can compare vamps with a basebuffed warden or a friar either. Vamp is the ultimate 1on1-char if you lack a bot which some people do. It isnt a coincidence that they are popular, far more common than for example friars or solowardens. Maulers now are otoh completely wank

 

[ebenezer]

1 vs 1 is in most cases stone scissor and bag( not sure what its called in english) , if you also count with that all have same level of knowledge of their characters and knows how to play them.
Then once and again a few other factors come into play as well in some fights and with some people. Some have exceptionally good templates...and in some part also luck plays in with procs and numbers doing "their" thing in the fight. But as i said earlier soloing as a "profession" in daoc involves skill imo. Its not just in the actual fight it takes place, its also as a visual for example to learn how to trick zerges and get to know ur places and use ur knowledge about ur character and ur territory to get the fights and use them to ur advantage etc.

I would say manish is right in the regard that it isnt a momentous task to play a soloer in a 1 vs 1 fight.
But it definitly involves skills. Cause how otherwise can you explain that you get better and better all the time? Learning things that makes you fight better and amke you perform better is skill on a certain level. You cant compare it to maybe being a profesional boxer or something similar...lol but its still something you got better in and more skillfull. All those other factors play in against you in some fights and cases.
But ur skill will make you progress and win those fights were you normally would have lost against a well matched tank/stealther.
How otherwise can you descibe that knowledge??

I dont know about manish and other people saying there is no skill at all. But i learned a lot about how to play both hero and warrior since starting out soloing.
Sure i learned now that when i meet a reaver there is a bigger chance i will have a very tough fight regardless of skill and rr. Cause that class is just tougher against my hero then for example a stealther in general.

And im sure censi makes his sidestyn openings much better nowadays then he did the first time he did it...no matter on what skill level you defined it.
Its still progress...and getting skills. Thats just fact folks
Over and out..