[movie]Goaone - Lifetap This

[Adari]

the real question however is... will censi ever learn how to use the 'Quote' button?

 

[Twinky]

Just saw the movie. Excellent quality, something expected for such a filesize, the music was not my cup of tea really but that's up to everyone's taste.

Playstyle wise, it shows the versatile nature of the vamp. While I was more into frontloading, speced for the top claw and 2300 ws, vinter clearly shows how you can kill people simply by bringing in a lot of utility. Really reminded my of wardens (well no shield but you get the idea).

Powering up on mobs and extensive kiting are part of the game, one has to be stupid to just stand and take the beating if there are alternatives.

What I'd love to see would be some more kiting on the towers. I loved that and still do on the shade. Killing 2 tanks by falling damage is pure love

General conclussions: Well played, shows extensive knowledge of the class and its abilities, knows what to do when and how to addapt in changing circumstances. Nice job.

I 2nd that

 

[censi]

And what would you know about 'skill' ? in your world, nobody has any skill unless they are a stealther.

As for unkillable, far from it, just because your not up to the job does not mean nobody is.

And the timer arguement is frankly old and poor, theres plenty of classes with far more timers to drop and far more powerful with them then an armsman.

not really, I think the only comments I have said are that to play a sneak well you need to be ready to strike (reflexes)... That same attribute is not as important with heavy tanks..

assasins are prolly the most skill dependent class in daoc...

regardless of skill I respect all good decent players regardless of class... but you do need to acknowledge that any old donkey can play an armsman tbh...

 

[Nibble]

nice vid mate

 

[Gotmagi]

Funny vid, enjoyed every minute

 

[Lethul]

Read that 3 times and it still doesn't make sense.

I'll try to explain, you said "I'll laugh at any coward that runs from a fight that they have started, if you can't handle it, don't start it.". And he is implying you are running away from him every time you meet. Wasn't really that hard to understand tbh.

 

[liloe]

Movie itself was nice, but somehow I found the other vid poster here a bit cooler =)

 

[liloe]

Movie itself was nice, but somehow I found the other vid poster here a bit cooler =)

edit timer...poster = posted ofc.

 

[censi]

I'll try to explain, you said "I'll laugh at any coward that runs from a fight that they have started, if you can't handle it, don't start it.". And he is implying you are running away from him every time you meet. Wasn't really that hard to understand tbh.

his ego filter is blocking the comment

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

assasins are prolly the most skill dependent class in daoc...

Right. I am mashing anytimes with my assa and coming on top of most fights easily.

Skill? I don't think so.

 

[Succi]

Right. I am mashing anytimes with my assa and coming on top of most fights easily.

Skill? I don't think so.

think that says more about the cluster's rvr population than anything tbh

 

[Aiteal]

Right. I am mashing anytimes with my assa and coming on top of most fights easily.

Skill? I don't think so.

Are you a 50 weapon 50 DW Inf by any chance?
That less assassin and more merc

I think censi is spot on
Looking at a vid like Eden's 'perfing lurikeen from hell' or that little shade vid where the guy is jumping around the bridge tower ramparts avoiding the thane's pbaoe whilst inside the p-node show the difference between winning fights through 'skill' (enviable timing and patience) and a bucket load of spec points

 

[Gear]

Right. I am mashing anytimes with my assa and coming on top of most fights easily.

Skill? I don't think so.

You really can't be that stupid mate

 

[Congax]

Right. I am mashing anytimes with my assa and coming on top of most fights easily.

Skill? I don't think so.

Honestly Manisch, you do talk crap sometimes.

 

[Kagato]

not really, I think the only comments I have said are that to play a sneak well you need to be ready to strike (reflexes)... That same attribute is not as important with heavy tanks..

assasins are prolly the most skill dependent class in daoc...

regardless of skill I respect all good decent players regardless of class... but you do need to acknowledge that any old donkey can play an armsman tbh...

To play one, and to play one well are two different things, same with any class.

I'll try to explain, you said "I'll laugh at any coward that runs from a fight that they have started, if you can't handle it, don't start it.". And he is implying you are running away from him every time you meet. Wasn't really that hard to understand tbh.

How ironic, given that I havent seen him solo in two years, every other time he has been with a bard-bot and still running away like a coward.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Are you a 50 weapon 50 DW Inf by any chance?
That less assassin and more merc

Yes, which proves my point, class/spec/template > skill. I dobut much would change if I'd be higher CS, ASD/ABS debuff and higher alpha strike potential that is needed versus shield tanks would make it rather easier.

 

[Matmardigan]

fh, im loving it

unbelievable Mc Donalds jumps on the Kebabwagon.

 

[Aiteal]

Yes, which proves my point, class/spec/template > skill. I dobut much would change if I'd be higher CS, ASD/ABS debuff and higher alpha strike potential that is needed versus shield tanks would make it rather easier.

Try it out then
Maybe you'll come to the realisation that timing PA's chain then pincer and pulling off 4 part evade chains all whilst swapping in new weapons is a little harder than spamming dual shadows.

Or maybe you wont
Who knows?

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Try it out then
Maybe you'll come to the realisation that timing PA's chain then pincer and pulling off 4 part evade chains all whilst swapping in new weapons is a little harder than spamming dual shadows.

Or maybe you wont
Who knows?

Okay, if that's what you're considering skill and also moving around stealthed evading enemies so you can gank someone in the right moment, more power to you. For me it's obvious things that every assa player should know after little RvR.

I have Backstab (4 + 3 CS :O) and I use it whenever I can, so I need to time a off stealth style too. Even with 50 Slash, 50 DW I have 10 styles on my bars, and I removed 3 that are not needed cause they have better counterparts. I have 11 weapons with me and depending on how long the fight lasts I sometimes use all of them. I'll get more when I can use the level 50 poisons like the ASD one at RR6.

I just wanted to play a different spec than all the Infis out there and I assumed that CS wouldn't be needed to beat most other classes, that's it.

 

[Stallion]

To play one, and to play one well are two different things, same with any class.



How ironic, given that I havent seen him solo in two years, every other time he has been with a bard-bot and still running away like a coward.

I think it was 1 year or so, stil counts no? or has your way of playing changed?

Bard-bot is just another way of handling multiple albs when conditions arent right for soling.. I cant kill many hard heavy tanks without kiting, I think you take for granted that I am running away, atleast I dont run to any keeps or such.. oh wait, no wonder I always meet you around those alb towers and keeps then... heh explains alot

 

[Twinky]

Okay, if that's what you're considering skill and also moving around stealthed evading enemies so you can gank someone in the right moment, more power to you. For me it's obvious things that every assa player should know after little RvR.

I have Backstab (4 + 3 CS :O) and I use it whenever I can, so I need to time a off stealth style too. Even with 50 Slash, 50 DW I have 10 styles on my bars, and I removed 3 that are not needed cause they have better counterparts. I have 11 weapons with me and depending on how long the fight lasts I sometimes use all of them. I'll get more when I can use the level 50 poisons like the ASD one at RR6.

I just wanted to play a different spec than all the Infis out there and I assumed that CS wouldn't be needed to beat most other classes, that's it.

Well the more u spec main hand, the more ur WS grows, and the more u hit shield users etc. Landing evade chain in CS line is very rare vs shield users, and most of the stealthers evade 24/7 and so forth. My point is, more ws and more spec points in main hand makes u hit more and less evades/parry/blocks on enemie. So its easier for u to kill ppl now with that spec, then the CS spec. Cause none ever lands the evade chain, unless the opponent is a total gimp, template, irl, on fh and in-game!

And not only is it better, its also easier to play with. Tho it gets boring after a while..!

 

[censi]

not being able to do a stonking PA on a caster would take the fun out of playing an assasins for me...

but for sure a good DW/CD spec gonna be very handy in Sneak V Sneak... and some of the longer fights V visual meleers

 

[censi]

Right. I am mashing anytimes with my assa and coming on top of most fights easily.

Skill? I don't think so.

a) name a more skillfull class type then?? Sorc?

b) your missing the point with your first statement, but you are confusing winning with being a good player... anyone can roll a inf pack a solid build and blaze down opponents with anytimers (thats not a sneak dig at you), its a solid enough performer for this to be just a fact... but we are talking skill... to this day I have not seen any impressive footage mercfiltrators, in terms of skill because as you say theres nothing to playing one... CS spec infs however have done some of the best vids made to date, because using PA effectivly can take skill. (cilivil SB was the best PA trickster i have seen to date)

To summarise the difference its like comparing SST (one of the first mercfils to grace daoc) to Papasan or Wittor...

aka SST was a newb, the other 2 were legends...

 

[liloe]

fh, im loving it

unbelievable Mc Donalds jumps on the Kebabwagon.

Spoiler

Dasn Witz, oder?

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

a) name a more skillfull class type then?? Sorc?

b) your missing the point with your first statement, but you are confusing winning with being a good player... anyone can roll a inf pack a solid build and blaze down opponents with anytimers (thats not a sneak dig at you), its a solid enough performer for this to be just a fact... but we are talking skill... to this day I have not seen any impressive footage mercfiltrators, in terms of skill because as you say theres nothing to playing one... CS spec infs however have done some of the best vids made to date, because using PA effectivly can take skill. (cilivil SB was the best PA trickster i have seen to date)

To summarise the difference its like comparing SST (one of the first mercfils to grace daoc) to Papasan or Wittor...

aka SST was a newb, the other 2 were legends...

I am not confusing anything. There is no difference in the requirement of skill between Critfil or Mercfil unless you consider facing someone to land PA hard or don't see that you need to back up different styles too when you are a Mercfil. Swing speed is capped at 1.5 seconds and usually you're ASD'ed, plenty of time to see what styles to apply next.

As for mentioning a more "skillful class", I doubt 1 vs 1 in DAoC is much about skill. It's simply not balanced around that (read Mythic's latest statements on that) and there are too many cookie cutter specs and templates with little room for actual player influence.

 

[Mirt]

Right. I am mashing anytimes with my assa and coming on top of most fights easily.

Skill? I don't think so..

Tee hee I almost wish I was still playing daoc, would be fun to hunt you down if you play like that ^^

 

[Mirt]

As for mentioning a more "skillful class", I doubt 1 vs 1 in DAoC is much about skill. It's simply not balanced around that (read Mythic's latest statements on that) and there are too many cookie cutter specs and templates with little room for actual player influence.

Oh not that old chestnut again, I hear the same bollocks in every pvp game.

In pvp to win you need to:

* Generally have a clue what you're trying to do
* Know off by heart the best attack pattens vs each class (including best damage types)
* Have decent enough reaction times and be flexible when things don't go quite as planned
* Know how to position yourself for best advantage
* Know when to attack, and when to run
* Have put sufficent effort into gear / RRs
* Have buffs if on a regular server
* Have a bit of luck (quite a few things you can do to engineer luck tho)

It takes time and effort to get to the stage where all the above are second nature, and that is the very essence of what skill is - something you had to work at to achieve.

If you only use anytimes and nothing else, I can see why you might think there is no skill, I'd also suspect you also owned a lot.

 

[illu]

Vamps are OP! :>

I need to sleep

I think I have FreddyshouseForumAddiction. Can never go to bed without a quick read :/

Oli - Illu

 

[censi]

I am not confusing anything. There is no difference in the requirement of skill between Critfil or Mercfil unless you consider facing someone to land PA hard or don't see that you need to back up different styles too when you are a Mercfil. Swing speed is capped at 1.5 seconds and usually you're ASD'ed, plenty of time to see what styles to apply next.

As for mentioning a more "skillful class", I doubt 1 vs 1 in DAoC is much about skill. It's simply not balanced around that (read Mythic's latest statements on that) and there are too many cookie cutter specs and templates with little room for actual player influence.

so name a class which requires more skill than an assasin to play then??

lining up a PA on a moving target can be hard especially when your trying to intercept his path if you not camping a choke point... prolly the most difficult manuver to pull off in the game I would say.. although I was somewhat proud of my side stun openers.

and I can list prolly 10 changes that are made specifically to align 1v1 encounters in daoc that have little or no bearing on widescale RVR or FG RVR. If you thought it through over the patches you could prolly come up with 100's... the vast majority of all changes to archers and assasins are to balance their effectiveness against each other in 1v1 scenarios...

quoting mythic is never a good way to make a point tbh... its like the bible... you can literally take your pick suit your needs.. and they contradict previous design statements with every patch....

 

[Kagato]

I think it was 1 year or so, stil counts no? or has your way of playing changed?

Bard-bot is just another way of handling multiple albs when conditions arent right for soling.. I cant kill many hard heavy tanks without kiting, I think you take for granted that I am running away, atleast I dont run to any keeps or such.. oh wait, no wonder I always meet you around those alb towers and keeps then... heh explains alot

lol I havent seen you solo for alot longer ago then that, every other time has been with a bard bot or full group or even a DI bot on occasus one time.

And you think you can criticise my playstyle? hah.