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roll on SWG
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Doramir
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i cant belive ppl would be so nasty to censi or 2 n e 1 4 that matter after all she does 4 hib. who needs invaders when we got such good arses in comfort of our own relm.
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agreed, that's fucking insane.
people, go to siabra city, DF, crim fins, even pulling 3 single purps at a time is good xp. 40!??!
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Erekrose
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Agreed.
Any RVR guild taking these people will just prove they dont give a shite about Hibernia.
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gunner440
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pffft if its an rvr dedicated guild then the main point is rvr isnt it?=
i mean say some dude didnt speak english or whtvr but could rvr real well (obviously being able to understand stuff like inc, stick, af me etc) maybe wouldnt fit well into normal guilds due to the language barrier but would be able to do so in rvr purposes ..
and if such the case that this person is a dickhead, as long as he is an able rvr-ing dickhead then whats wrong about it? if the purpose of the guild isnt to b a family orientated roleplaying bunch then whats the bad thing?
i mean look at fame or tzee, they r both dicks but can rvr
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if the person wants to roleplay then he can fo to prydwen
pp.s merry christmas to u all
i mean say some dude didnt speak english or whtvr but could rvr real well (obviously being able to understand stuff like inc, stick, af me etc) maybe wouldnt fit well into normal guilds due to the language barrier but would be able to do so in rvr purposes ..
and if such the case that this person is a dickhead, as long as he is an able rvr-ing dickhead then whats wrong about it? if the purpose of the guild isnt to b a family orientated roleplaying bunch then whats the bad thing?
i mean look at fame or tzee, they r both dicks but can rvr
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if the person wants to roleplay then he can fo to prydwen
pp.s merry christmas to u all
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err0r
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A very cynical way of seeing things, but has a bit of sense in it. If I like doin'g RvR with ppl because they're good at it doesn't mean I wanna marry them... Laralyn and Tankster as exceptions
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i wanna marry fame
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Ziva
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Lol @ wipeout at knights... i've been there lots of times with one group of "random" members... occasionaly some1 got killed but the fact u cannot even handle those only proofs that in your rush to get 50 u seem to have forgotten to take the time to actually learn to know the abilities of your char and behaviour of mobs.
Even though it's nice to see people xp together since level 1, that really does not mean u have more rights or makes u any better then anyone else or "just random" groups. I think there's no better proof of this then this whole thread.
Maybe u can start your own guild or something. Afterall u seem to to expect a different treatment from Hibernia because u seem to think your better then all the rest of us. Making your own guild atleast keeps u from bothering people who hate people with such an arrogant attitude. Both u in your own guild and the rest of us Hibbies would be glad, problem solved right?
Even though it's nice to see people xp together since level 1, that really does not mean u have more rights or makes u any better then anyone else or "just random" groups. I think there's no better proof of this then this whole thread.
Maybe u can start your own guild or something. Afterall u seem to to expect a different treatment from Hibernia because u seem to think your better then all the rest of us. Making your own guild atleast keeps u from bothering people who hate people with such an arrogant attitude. Both u in your own guild and the rest of us Hibbies would be glad, problem solved right?
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gunner440
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its easier to look down than to look up
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Treson
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what is this Elea making/xping new char.. hes gotta have the fever!
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Tank Init
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if they really are that good why didnt they get into df as the exp is far better there than at the fins tree
rvr gods im sure a few keeps and a few stray albs/mids in df would of been no probs to them
rvr gods im sure a few keeps and a few stray albs/mids in df would of been no probs to them
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2 tries, 2 wipes.
both times 10+ adds, guess we just suck at playing our chars
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Marwolaeth
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Been in a group for a couple of hours at knights which was made up mostly of AeD members. Priss I believe did the pulling and sometimes yeah we were scouted and assaulted by about 10+ mobs....difference is we held our heads and slaughtered them first. I'll admit knights are harder and therefore imo more fun than Fins, but the exps were alot quicker coming. A pity you were seemingly unlucky a couple of times and gave up on them.
As for this thread turning into a who was right and who was wrong flame I think it's abit silly really as there is no set in stone rule to the game that says fins is run by a list. I for one have never come across that particular subclause in the Terms and Conditions set out by Mythic/GOA. It is simply an agreement that appears to of been made ages ago that people have come along and met later on and agreed to as well by having their names applied to the list. Everyone here pays for the ability to play...
That said however I return to the topic of this thread and say ok, benefit of the doubt time. Your group came across the fins spot and thought it was empty and so pull for awhile. When it becomes apparent to Censi that you are exping not there for a tour you are informed that there is a fins group at the spot already and that there is a waiting list and so of course realising your mistake your group apologises and goes to find an alternative spot like reasonable adults....Only thats not what the chat log shows. It shows some of the group getting on their high horse from word go and being as obnoxious as they possibly can.
Counter argue all you want. Argue your case that you didn't see anyone pulling for a whole 10 mins if you like. Argue that others came along afterwards and tried to screw up your group if you think it will help. And of course flame censi for starting this thread on BW before stopping to realise you could all pull and still have the boring experiance called fins that we all know and love.
Fact still remains this thread was started to name and shame the people involved who acted like children when the situation was explained to them. Therefore mission accomplished, now can somone explain why this thread is 6 pages long?
As for this thread turning into a who was right and who was wrong flame I think it's abit silly really as there is no set in stone rule to the game that says fins is run by a list. I for one have never come across that particular subclause in the Terms and Conditions set out by Mythic/GOA. It is simply an agreement that appears to of been made ages ago that people have come along and met later on and agreed to as well by having their names applied to the list. Everyone here pays for the ability to play...
That said however I return to the topic of this thread and say ok, benefit of the doubt time. Your group came across the fins spot and thought it was empty and so pull for awhile. When it becomes apparent to Censi that you are exping not there for a tour you are informed that there is a fins group at the spot already and that there is a waiting list and so of course realising your mistake your group apologises and goes to find an alternative spot like reasonable adults....Only thats not what the chat log shows. It shows some of the group getting on their high horse from word go and being as obnoxious as they possibly can.
Counter argue all you want. Argue your case that you didn't see anyone pulling for a whole 10 mins if you like. Argue that others came along afterwards and tried to screw up your group if you think it will help. And of course flame censi for starting this thread on BW before stopping to realise you could all pull and still have the boring experiance called fins that we all know and love.
Fact still remains this thread was started to name and shame the people involved who acted like children when the situation was explained to them. Therefore mission accomplished, now can somone explain why this thread is 6 pages long?
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Just my 2 cents worth,
This morning we xp'd at the fins spot, and when the list came round we were joined by first Greenie, then Quietus.
2 or 3 of the current fins group were in the group at the time of the incident that started this thread (myself included).
What did we do? We got on with it, together, and no mention of the incident in question. We had a good group, we played well and had fun. No grudges borne, not one crossed word.
This is yesterdays news, nuff said.
This morning we xp'd at the fins spot, and when the list came round we were joined by first Greenie, then Quietus.
2 or 3 of the current fins group were in the group at the time of the incident that started this thread (myself included).
What did we do? We got on with it, together, and no mention of the incident in question. We had a good group, we played well and had fun. No grudges borne, not one crossed word.
This is yesterdays news, nuff said.
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censi
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yer its not really a massive deal... prolly happens a lot in DAOC... was still a bit shocked at the time, cuz of they way they spoke. cant believe nearly 150 people have replied to this though... but its also a bit ironic that they are happy to use the fins list method now?? how would they react if another grp came up and started pulling etc?? but who cares, like u say its more than time to move on now... wish there was some way to close this post, its a monster...
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If I were in the situation of being near lvl 50 and having to wait on a list for days on end just to hunt a mob, I certainly wouldn't sit around and play nice. I would be apealing to goa/mythic on a daily basis for a larger population of fins. Albion has 2 mobs that on the same xp lvl as fins. Pygme Goblin/Tanglers and Trees. Tanglers (huntable from lvl 40 to 50)supports from 5-7 spots without to much hassle (I have seen more than 10 at a time there before) There are 3 tree spots (huntable from lvl 45-50) and at least one spot can support 2 groups without to much downtime.
Now, it seems to me I hear alot of hibbies saying that Albion in Mythics favorite realm, well, this may be true, HOWEVER, everyone pays for this game, and everyone pays for the monthly play time. It is your OWN responsibility to spam goa/mythic with requests to fix the low spot/player ratio in hibernia.
If every single one of the people on the fins list sent one mail a day then someone would have to listen.
This is just my opinion on the matter, which doesn't count for shit as I haven't made a big popular name for myself in this realm, yet. But I really think that people used the enegy on protesting this instead of fighting with your realm mates we could fix the underlying problem.
Now, it seems to me I hear alot of hibbies saying that Albion in Mythics favorite realm, well, this may be true, HOWEVER, everyone pays for this game, and everyone pays for the monthly play time. It is your OWN responsibility to spam goa/mythic with requests to fix the low spot/player ratio in hibernia.
If every single one of the people on the fins list sent one mail a day then someone would have to listen.
This is just my opinion on the matter, which doesn't count for shit as I haven't made a big popular name for myself in this realm, yet. But I really think that people used the enegy on protesting this instead of fighting with your realm mates we could fix the underlying problem.
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re: the original topic
Personally I've lost all sympathy I might have had, due to my own experiences on the list. I won't go into too much detail, but suffice to say the list is advertised as a necessary evil, which isn't perfect, but is the best it can be. The truth is that if your face doesnt fit, your not a friend of someone in the group/the list holder, or not in the guild which already has 3 in the group, your very unlikely to get a place. Having been on the list many,many times, discussed the details with the list holders and had guild members in the group, I know it to not be a fair system ... and this had been while the list was held by many different people, not just certain people who don't know or care how the list should work.
I never agreed with the fins list personally before I reached a level where I could join it, and now I have I am convinced it should not exist. Were it a fair system you could almost justify it's existence and its almost constant monopoly of a good xp spot, but the fact that it isnt fair makes it totally unreasonable for those in the group to expect exclusive rights to the spot.
Havent read the logs myself, but assume there were some stupid things done and said by the group in question and while I'm not justifying the way they went about it, or maybe even their reasons, I think it's about time the fins list was challenged.
Personally I've lost all sympathy I might have had, due to my own experiences on the list. I won't go into too much detail, but suffice to say the list is advertised as a necessary evil, which isn't perfect, but is the best it can be. The truth is that if your face doesnt fit, your not a friend of someone in the group/the list holder, or not in the guild which already has 3 in the group, your very unlikely to get a place. Having been on the list many,many times, discussed the details with the list holders and had guild members in the group, I know it to not be a fair system ... and this had been while the list was held by many different people, not just certain people who don't know or care how the list should work.
I never agreed with the fins list personally before I reached a level where I could join it, and now I have I am convinced it should not exist. Were it a fair system you could almost justify it's existence and its almost constant monopoly of a good xp spot, but the fact that it isnt fair makes it totally unreasonable for those in the group to expect exclusive rights to the spot.
Havent read the logs myself, but assume there were some stupid things done and said by the group in question and while I'm not justifying the way they went about it, or maybe even their reasons, I think it's about time the fins list was challenged.
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Well i agree on u when u say finslist is not the best thing in our realm but i disagree when u say the list isn't fairly treated cause that really depends on the person holding the list if u ask me.
I only held it one day to make it from 48 to 49.9 (stopped there to wait for someone) but even though some people i knew at the time asked me to join (and some offered even money and stuff like that, really amazing lol) i did not mess with the list at all because i think it's not fair to take friends or people u know first. But i guess not everyone is the same in that matter.
I only held it one day to make it from 48 to 49.9 (stopped there to wait for someone) but even though some people i knew at the time asked me to join (and some offered even money and stuff like that, really amazing lol) i did not mess with the list at all because i think it's not fair to take friends or people u know first. But i guess not everyone is the same in that matter.
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"Tanglers (huntable from lvl 40 to 50)supports from 5-7 spots without to much hassle (I have seen more than 10 at a time there before) There are 3 tree spots (huntable from lvl 45-50) and at least one spot can support 2 groups without to much downtime."
Absoloute RUBBISH ...as we've come to expect from you Dreama.
Tanglers are good exp for a good group between 37 and 44. Above this you move to trees. 7-10 spots at tanglers? You're COMPLETELY full of shit now. There are three tangler spawns, plus the house on the hill without any tanglers. One tangler = one group. It should also be noted that the house is always used by several lower level (30-36) groups; two to four at a time.
Higher level players CAN use the tanglers, but only at times when lower level people (in greater numbers) are not using the spawns. High level cabalists can solo, and other classes can work in three/four man groups using AE spells to the same effect. 7-10 groups? That's some good stuff you're smoking there.
...or is it that you're just trying to impress through sympathy for the hibs? <shrugs>
Albion is no different to Hibernia; you either do trees (three spots), you go to dartmoor (untapped resource, people should do this more) or you go to darkness falls.
"This is just my opinion on the matter, which doesn't count for shit as I haven't made a big popular name for myself in this realm, yet."
lol good luck with that one, if you moan and whinge half as much with the hibs as you show bitterness towards the albs, you'll have a tricky time of it.
Absoloute RUBBISH ...as we've come to expect from you Dreama.
Tanglers are good exp for a good group between 37 and 44. Above this you move to trees. 7-10 spots at tanglers? You're COMPLETELY full of shit now. There are three tangler spawns, plus the house on the hill without any tanglers. One tangler = one group. It should also be noted that the house is always used by several lower level (30-36) groups; two to four at a time.
Higher level players CAN use the tanglers, but only at times when lower level people (in greater numbers) are not using the spawns. High level cabalists can solo, and other classes can work in three/four man groups using AE spells to the same effect. 7-10 groups? That's some good stuff you're smoking there.
...or is it that you're just trying to impress through sympathy for the hibs? <shrugs>
Albion is no different to Hibernia; you either do trees (three spots), you go to dartmoor (untapped resource, people should do this more) or you go to darkness falls.
"This is just my opinion on the matter, which doesn't count for shit as I haven't made a big popular name for myself in this realm, yet."
lol good luck with that one, if you moan and whinge half as much with the hibs as you show bitterness towards the albs, you'll have a tricky time of it.
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First of all, Wildfire you, sir, are a complete and utter wanker. Before I left Hibernia you had nothing but kind words for me. When I went to Hib, even tho I never really know you, or actually ever even talked to you beside to say stop breaking mezz, you turn into a vengefull little 5 year child. Fuck off back to Albion. I have no hard feelings for albion, none whatso ever besides the normal kill albs and mids, nothing personal.
Read again you illiterate fuck. I said 5 to 7 spots. Not 7 to 10. I said, I have seen 10 groups there before, and we all have.
2 spots on beach, 3 to 4 spots on trees, and one at duct. that makes 7. (I'll pause to give you time to find your caculator for this one.)
one group pulls while the other group is resting, the tangler spwans rather fast so it's no problem for 2 group to feed off of 1 tangler. The only time it becomes a problem is when asshole selfish punk bitches like you come in and try be king of the realm and claim it all for yourselves.
as for higher lvl players useing tanglers, it's very possible, a minstrel and a sorc/cabby can do. A sorc and a tank. A cabby and a tank. Basically all you need to do is have a cabby or a sorc and you can do it, and those are a dime a dozen these days.
As for trees, spot once can handle 2 grps pulling, one from each side. If you don't believe it maybe you should go and have a loom one day, there is 2 grps pulling there most of the time. (at least when I was still there)
so, untill you have even the tiniest clue as to wtf you're talking about go back to Albion and keep breaking those mezzes.
Even if tanglers could only support 3 groups and trees 3 groups, that gives Albs lvl 40+ 6 spots. Hibs have one.
Even if players over lvl 45 couldn't do tanglers, that leaves 3 tree spots for lvl 45+. Hibernia has one. Hibernia *could* have more than one, if you included crim fins. Now we add the extra risk of being slaughtered while fighting fins and albs/mids. Albion has at the very least 3 xp spots, extreamly safe to get to. The only way to get killed going to trees is by being an idiot and running straight into telamons. so, let's recap - Albions 3 safe xping spots. Hibernia 1 safe xping spot. Yeah, you're right Wildgimp, Albion is just exactly the same as the other realms.
*To all reading this post, excluding Wildgimp, I do apologize for my harsh words. I seem to get a tad carried away when a person who doesn't know how to play his own class tells people how to play thiers, or a person who doesn't know right from left claims to know every detail about everything.
I still incurage everyone who is tired of fins lists to spam goa/mythic with it.
Read again you illiterate fuck. I said 5 to 7 spots. Not 7 to 10. I said, I have seen 10 groups there before, and we all have.
2 spots on beach, 3 to 4 spots on trees, and one at duct. that makes 7. (I'll pause to give you time to find your caculator for this one.)
one group pulls while the other group is resting, the tangler spwans rather fast so it's no problem for 2 group to feed off of 1 tangler. The only time it becomes a problem is when asshole selfish punk bitches like you come in and try be king of the realm and claim it all for yourselves.
as for higher lvl players useing tanglers, it's very possible, a minstrel and a sorc/cabby can do. A sorc and a tank. A cabby and a tank. Basically all you need to do is have a cabby or a sorc and you can do it, and those are a dime a dozen these days.
As for trees, spot once can handle 2 grps pulling, one from each side. If you don't believe it maybe you should go and have a loom one day, there is 2 grps pulling there most of the time. (at least when I was still there)
so, untill you have even the tiniest clue as to wtf you're talking about go back to Albion and keep breaking those mezzes.
Even if tanglers could only support 3 groups and trees 3 groups, that gives Albs lvl 40+ 6 spots. Hibs have one.
Even if players over lvl 45 couldn't do tanglers, that leaves 3 tree spots for lvl 45+. Hibernia has one. Hibernia *could* have more than one, if you included crim fins. Now we add the extra risk of being slaughtered while fighting fins and albs/mids. Albion has at the very least 3 xp spots, extreamly safe to get to. The only way to get killed going to trees is by being an idiot and running straight into telamons. so, let's recap - Albions 3 safe xping spots. Hibernia 1 safe xping spot. Yeah, you're right Wildgimp, Albion is just exactly the same as the other realms.
*To all reading this post, excluding Wildgimp, I do apologize for my harsh words. I seem to get a tad carried away when a person who doesn't know how to play his own class tells people how to play thiers, or a person who doesn't know right from left claims to know every detail about everything.
I still incurage everyone who is tired of fins lists to spam goa/mythic with it.
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when it comes to pulling the TANGLER, there're only 3 spots to do so. The aquaduct/Island/Tree spawn, as they only have 1 tangler per spot.
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old.Laryssa
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now even albs start arguing on HIB forums
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LMAO @ Wildgimp
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Wildfire
You was OWNED boy !
Stay on your Alb boards, your inferior interlect is not welcome here.
Wildfire
You was OWNED boy !
Stay on your Alb boards, your inferior interlect is not welcome here.
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I think all hibs should emigrate to Albion ) We have it easy, you know. Plethora of high-lvl pull spots, lots of friendly players, we have the Powah of the Almighty Zerg, and our characters are easy to play, as for each hib class, we have to have 2 to cover their specialties, so none of our classes have more than one thing they're good at.
You'll love it here - really you would! We have so many pullspots, that you can lvl 100 ppl to lvl 50 in a couple days /played, without anyone ever arguing about spots!
/em ducks...
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OH! Don't forget Albion Frontiers! They are so infested with high-lvl (aggro) mobs that noone cares fighting in them other than in Forest Sauvage (especially on Excalibur road). May I personally reccomend Ellylls (they're even neutral to you), drakes, maybe ravenclan giants too. Hell - I'll even make you a deal! If I ever encounter an enemy XP group in Pennines, I'll msg my /AS of your exact location, and inform them not to touch you - promise!
) We have it easy, you know. Plethora of high-lvl pull spots, lots of friendly players, we have the Powah of the Almighty Zerg, and our characters are easy to play, as for each hib class, we have to have 2 to cover their specialties, so none of our classes have more than one thing they're good at.You'll love it here - really you would! We have so many pullspots, that you can lvl 100 ppl to lvl 50 in a couple days /played, without anyone ever arguing about spots!
/em ducks...
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OH! Don't forget Albion Frontiers! They are so infested with high-lvl (aggro) mobs that noone cares fighting in them other than in Forest Sauvage (especially on Excalibur road). May I personally reccomend Ellylls (they're even neutral to you), drakes, maybe ravenclan giants too. Hell - I'll even make you a deal! If I ever encounter an enemy XP group in Pennines, I'll msg my /AS of your exact location, and inform them not to touch you - promise!
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Originally posted by old.Fangrim
I think all hibs should emigrate to Albion
OMFG A ALB NOT WHINING ABOUT HOW WEAK EACH CLASS IS AND HOW THEY ARE TERMINALLY GIMPED!!!
/em collapses in shock
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old.Garax
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Originally posted by stormriderx
OMFG A ALB NOT WHINING ABOUT HOW WEAK EACH CLASS IS AND HOW THEY ARE TERMINALLY GIMPED!!!
/em collapses in shock
I think u'll find he was being sarcastic
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Erekrose
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Time to close this thread?
Thought for the day:
Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.
Thought for the day:
Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.
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/em Sets the charges and retires to a safe distance