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Not saying they wouldnt help or there not nice people just saying surely they are the dogs at RVR?
Not saying they wouldnt help or there not nice people just saying surely they are the dogs at RVR?
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LA and veng are good at what they do yeh
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Idiot
It affects us because
A. your a dickand we dont like you, and it pleases us to let you know.
B. Next time we spend hours on the only list in Hib for just the reason you decided to take the xp spot - we may have to put these arguements to you in game.
Personally I would have let you pull and either got my PBAOE to sit in middle of you and leach, or got you killed... But, I am a bastard.
C. You really are a dick.
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Tiptap
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Mind you!
Whilst all this was going on I "Dinged" 50 at one of those other "slower" (only 2-4 fins per pull) spots.
So TY for being such an arse and not bothering to learn where the other XP spots are in HIB...
Whilst all this was going on I "Dinged" 50 at one of those other "slower" (only 2-4 fins per pull) spots.
So TY for being such an arse and not bothering to learn where the other XP spots are in HIB...
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LOL!!!
just reading those logs make me both mad and sad.
dont know why I write this but those loggs are fewking anoying, kill ban etc, we dont need em, or atleast I dont...
just reading those logs make me both mad and sad.
dont know why I write this but those loggs are fewking anoying, kill ban etc, we dont need em, or atleast I dont...
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Korebwyn
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you guys still havent understood this. We DIDNT take the xp spot. we were UNAWARE that another group was sitting uphill behind a tree (NOT visible to us) . We pulled at just that camp because we saw noone around nor anyone pulling.
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Keri
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Grats!!
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RHWitch
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Personally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GRRRR am so tired of arguments over things in hib...peeps get along in hib good grief we all live here...
BTW it is the season to forgive forget and go on SO DO IT
HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL....LET'S START 2003 IN A GOOD WAY...
my 2 cents worth
GRRRR am so tired of arguments over things in hib...peeps get along in hib good grief we all live here...
BTW it is the season to forgive forget and go on SO DO IT
HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL....LET'S START 2003 IN A GOOD WAY...
my 2 cents worth
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Dien
Eleas (eleasias back from pvp)
Greenie
Kaht
ysm
Macfist
Quietus
Isereuk
Doreleamh
maybe these guys needs to get laid once in a while so they can soften up their elitist and "uber all" behaviour....some rules you shoudnt break, and fins list is one of them, i dont give a flying fuck who Eleasias is with his RR9 or Quietus or the whole group they had .... i pay for this game to have fun, and if they decide to ruin a simple rule so everybody can have fun then FUCK OFF
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Eleas (eleasias back from pvp)
Greenie
Kaht
ysm
Macfist
Quietus
Isereuk
Doreleamh
maybe these guys needs to get laid once in a while so they can soften up their elitist and "uber all" behaviour....some rules you shoudnt break, and fins list is one of them, i dont give a flying fuck who Eleasias is with his RR9 or Quietus or the whole group they had .... i pay for this game to have fun, and if they decide to ruin a simple rule so everybody can have fun then FUCK OFF
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Happy New Year
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n00b 79
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WOHOOOOOOOOO
HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS !!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS !!!
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Korebwyn
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Jupitus did a bad work with someone I see, I suggest you read this over one more time. about getting laid.. sigh, does playing mean you can't get laid ?
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eneq
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OMFG ?
It was about 1 month ago i posted a "disband the Fin list" on BW and you was 1 of the posters claimed that fins list was good ?
Did PvP camlann change you that much or is it me remembering wrong ?
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pliiz..
Stop kidding, except for relic raids, there have been a ongoing fins group at main fins WITH list for several months
Both you and elesias should very well be aware of that
And when the other group arrived again, it was nothing to discuss or be aware off. Its a bitch but they DO have the SOLE right to have that spot, what do you think the rest of the realms level 43-49s is waiting on the damn list for?
I realise you have a level with the goal of getting 50 really fast and rvr, its sorta obvious, but then i can simply advice to forever forget the fins, or at least grab it during next relic raid when there is /who fins 2 people instead of 9, if there is a group of people xping in cf already....yes then that IS at main fins =)
Just get order off the knights if you get wiped I survived there for 6 hours or so straight with a group the other day, and that was NOT a team that had been working together since level 5 at all...(although elwood rockz knights hehe=))
Not breaking up the team simply mean you have to find other spots....and there is LOTS of spots better then shared main fin spot, even the log spot is alot better then that
What you said about "your not on the damn list so you better get out of here" thingy is quite accurate, and have the support from most i think, and you knew all this beforehand, so why even bother? =)
Stop kidding, except for relic raids, there have been a ongoing fins group at main fins WITH list for several months
Both you and elesias should very well be aware of that
And when the other group arrived again, it was nothing to discuss or be aware off. Its a bitch but they DO have the SOLE right to have that spot, what do you think the rest of the realms level 43-49s is waiting on the damn list for?
I realise you have a level with the goal of getting 50 really fast and rvr, its sorta obvious, but then i can simply advice to forever forget the fins, or at least grab it during next relic raid when there is /who fins 2 people instead of 9, if there is a group of people xping in cf already....yes then that IS at main fins =)
Just get order off the knights if you get wiped
I survived there for 6 hours or so straight with a group the other day, and that was NOT a team that had been working together since level 5 at all...(although elwood rockz knights hehe=))Not breaking up the team simply mean you have to find other spots....and there is LOTS of spots better then shared main fin spot, even the log spot is alot better then that
What you said about "your not on the damn list so you better get out of here" thingy is quite accurate, and have the support from most i think, and you knew all this beforehand, so why even bother? =)
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Wasting your breath ziva, according to kerebwyn since his grp had been holding each others hands since BT's there was no way they were gonna join a list to XP.
The screenshots come after the fact, everything said so far is contradictory by these people and certainly the character of some of the people already at the fins spot is far greater than some idiots who decided (and said) that since the other grp wasn't pulling they would pull anyway NOT that the camp was empty when they got there, they said that afterwards, come of guys, burn some calories, activate some brain cells, was the spot empty OR did you decide to pull because the other grp wasn't? Can't be both.
Censi's logs also see him basically saying, sorry but this is pretty much a one grp camp only and this is how it is. One of my guildies was there, with .3 to ding and I got the full story from her, matches up with everything censi has said, think if censi was on a lone crusade the information might have varied but I'm satisfied that I'll never have anything to do with punks like this.
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elerand
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Originally posted by Gabrial
Im guessing all you guys are upper 40's in level to be hunting here right?
Isnt there ANYWHERE else in the entire realm to hunt?
My roots are in hib on excali when I first bought the game but I never levelled past 30 so I dont know about anywhere after this level
I aint taking sides but if these guys have only grouped together as mates (nothing wrong with that
And to all those talking about a divided realm, bickering amongst yourselves etc. you arent alone
Sure they were, they had eleasias and they had decided that since they were together such a long time they weren't spliting up for a list at one of the most used xp spots in the realm.
There are other places to xp, one of the reasons that fins spot is so hot is because you can get to it alone, thus it's possible to get a replacement in 5 mins and it's possible to xp just for a couple of hours, log for dinner, going to the bottom of yoru particular list if it's nto too long, come back and either play an alt or join again, some days it's too busy and I have waited 3-4 days for a spot. Although there are screw ups and there are those that don't run the list fairly it has suited me and many others.
For me Knights require more commitment, you can't really play for 3 hours then be hte sole person who wants to go, everyone pretty much has to peg it to innis for replacements and that can take 10-15 mins there and double that back. That's a lot of lost time and unfair for the other players.
Trouble with the two screenshots apparently showing an empty spot is not everyone sits there to pull, last 3 times I passed the spot they were sat at the top of the hill, rangers can pull easily from there.
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elerand
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Re: Personally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Red correct me if I'm wrong but you get upset at stuff to
To be fair most the realm is good, there are 8 idiots tho who saw fit to be total arses and that's something worth sticking together for
Originally posted by RHWitch
GRRRR am so tired of arguments over things in hib...peeps get along in hib good grief we all live here...
BTW it is the season to forgive forget and go on SO DO IT
HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL....LET'S START 2003 IN A GOOD WAY...
my 2 cents worth
Red correct me if I'm wrong but you get upset at stuff to
To be fair most the realm is good, there are 8 idiots tho who saw fit to be total arses and that's something worth sticking together for
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Korebwyn
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my english may indeed be bad.. but.
you still dont understand the fact that when we came to the spawn we didnt see anyone around and noone else than us were pulling for 10 mins?
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Your english isn't so bad, can see from the first screenie from censi that he asked if you were doing epics, from there it was more than obvious you didn't give a shit about the way it works, quietus is in the first instant the most offensive, followed by ealisas. You had no intention of solving the problem, it was only as time wore and more came to pressure everyone things changed.
It's a crap xp spot for two grps, you let yourselves down on a huge number of counts, you got less xp, you told the whole realm you can't be reasoned with and these two are the ones that stick out the most.
I've been on the far side of the spawn when a 2nd grp turned up and started pulling, ran over, said we were running a list etc and had been all day, they still wanted to pull, I told them the xp would end up being less and you don't then get 3 mobs every pull and after about 2 shared pulls the other grp left to find a better spot.
Censi pointed out how it works but your grp seemed to put it's hands over their ears and start going lalalalalaa can't hear you
I've been in xp grps with the intent of lvling, we never played ignorant of the situation if a grp came back, even if they weren't at the spot, if they went to pick someone up it was cool with us, no one has a right to monopolise a spot but I like to play fair and the fins spot is one that isn't claimed for one grp in particular, it's for any 8 hibs for the whole of hibernia, part of why there are almost never any problems is because almost everyone understands it and if they don't then they are usually smart enough to understand why it is that way and not take offense.
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well im glad i wasnt there. the fins list is a hassle to maintain and its accepted within hibernia that it exists and you play along with it.
turning up like that and nicking the spot is completely unacceptable, and accepting at the end to share the spawn? wtf is that all about?
turns a day at the fins getting some lvls into twice the amount of time to get it, do you understand anything about the realm/game/xp or anything? that some people can't powergame and rely on the fins list to get thru to 50?
quietus, you seem to shine as a complete prick - i would ask you to leave but i respect the other realms more than to lumber them with you, you fkin sob. where the hell did you come from anyway? what hole did you crawl from? can you crawl back?
anyone reading those screenies can see censimilia being reasonable and you being a complete twat. how wonderfully enlightening.
and as for eleasis, wow didnt realise you were such a nob either.
turning up like that and nicking the spot is completely unacceptable, and accepting at the end to share the spawn? wtf is that all about?
turns a day at the fins getting some lvls into twice the amount of time to get it, do you understand anything about the realm/game/xp or anything? that some people can't powergame and rely on the fins list to get thru to 50?
quietus, you seem to shine as a complete prick - i would ask you to leave but i respect the other realms more than to lumber them with you, you fkin sob. where the hell did you come from anyway? what hole did you crawl from? can you crawl back?
anyone reading those screenies can see censimilia being reasonable and you being a complete twat. how wonderfully enlightening.
and as for eleasis, wow didnt realise you were such a nob either.
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NERF WHINING PLZKTHXBYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
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Good xp is where you find it .
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Well, in the spirit of the new year.....
Assuming what you say is correct, you NOW know the following:
- There is a list for Fins Main spot (and sometime secondary spot too)
- Peeps dont always pull from the tree at main spot, hill spot is also a convenient location.
- Doing a /WHO CURSED which shows more than 1 person in CF means that there is a Main Fins group running.
- Barging in on a Fin Group will affect more than just the 8 people in front of you
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Knowing all of this, I can take it that this whole incident will not occur again.
Am I correct in this?
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bump
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Korebwyn
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sure, tired of this thread
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I have been to the fins and played there a while with no problems . What I would like to know is , why were the main group sitting uphill behind a tree ? The groups I have been in have always sat as near to the pulling position as possible to stop any such thing happening . Sometimes we would head downhill and pull the night spot , but was always wary of this because another group could just as easily take the main spot .
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really, very sad ofcourse ...but something else...do we need a Legion list now or is it an instant-pop too ?
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It's not like I agree with the offending group there ( actually I think their behaviour was really unacceptable), but there are some small mistakes people are making here in their argumentation:
First of all I'm pretty sure Eleasias has never ever been on the fins-list, because the fins-spot in CF has only been there since version 1.45 and he dinged 50 way before that (i think)- so there has not always been a list since release ( as someone said here), although there have been lists for Crim-fins before that patch (and I'm almost sure I was the first listholder there ever).
There's someting else that really shocked me about this whole incident: 40 people on the list!!! WTF ? Make other groups, get XP somewhere else, but 40 people waiting on the list is silly, stupid, wrong!
First of all I'm pretty sure Eleasias has never ever been on the fins-list, because the fins-spot in CF has only been there since version 1.45 and he dinged 50 way before that (i think)- so there has not always been a list since release ( as someone said here), although there have been lists for Crim-fins before that patch (and I'm almost sure I was the first listholder there ever
).There's someting else that really shocked me about this whole incident: 40 people on the list!!! WTF ? Make other groups, get XP somewhere else, but 40 people waiting on the list is silly, stupid, wrong!
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The reason some people sit up on the hill is due to Orey the monkey being aggresive to them, hes slightly easier to avoid in this spot.
I have to give Censi's group my vote here, the fins group(with list) has always had the right to this spot. In most cases when people want on the list they usually do a /who cursed and then PM the leader to get on the list. So when you saw there were nine people there you should have been asking them if they were the fins group or not. I'm not sure what time this happened at but you have a 99% chance of that spot being camped at all times.
Someone like Eleasias knows all to well how this spot works, hes been around since the start so no real excuses. I dont really think that anything Eleasias' group has said has been convincing in their defense.
When Garcals group did this ages ago everyone in Hibernia moaned and agreed he was wrong. This time is no different.
Actually I'm really disappointed to see someone of Eleasias's stature in hibernia get involved in this kind of thing, dont know the others so can't comment on them. You just went down in my estimation.
This spot and all the arguments round it has always been a big discussion topic, the one rule is, the group with the list is the only one's who should be killing those mobs. Stating that eleasias was never in the fins list before because he was 50 before 1.45 isn't even valid. You cannot honestly tell me that eleasias being RR9 on one char, also now having another char approaching 50 and he has never heard of or even discussed the workings of the fins list. With the hours he has /played it would be near on impossible.
To Eleasias' group
What if your lower level guild mates/friends alts had been on that list? Would you have said, TOUGH to them too? Its not a way to win friends across the realm just a way to piss of most of the realm when they read about it.
I have to give Censi's group my vote here, the fins group(with list) has always had the right to this spot. In most cases when people want on the list they usually do a /who cursed and then PM the leader to get on the list. So when you saw there were nine people there you should have been asking them if they were the fins group or not. I'm not sure what time this happened at but you have a 99% chance of that spot being camped at all times.
Someone like Eleasias knows all to well how this spot works, hes been around since the start so no real excuses. I dont really think that anything Eleasias' group has said has been convincing in their defense.
When Garcals group did this ages ago everyone in Hibernia moaned and agreed he was wrong. This time is no different.
Actually I'm really disappointed to see someone of Eleasias's stature in hibernia get involved in this kind of thing, dont know the others so can't comment on them. You just went down in my estimation.
This spot and all the arguments round it has always been a big discussion topic, the one rule is, the group with the list is the only one's who should be killing those mobs. Stating that eleasias was never in the fins list before because he was 50 before 1.45 isn't even valid. You cannot honestly tell me that eleasias being RR9 on one char, also now having another char approaching 50 and he has never heard of or even discussed the workings of the fins list. With the hours he has /played it would be near on impossible.
To Eleasias' group
What if your lower level guild mates/friends alts had been on that list? Would you have said, TOUGH to them too? Its not a way to win friends across the realm just a way to piss of most of the realm when they read about it.
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Oks lets close this off... after a festive New Year this seems even more a minor matter now...
Like I said before, this was never really about who was right or wrong for me.... I was just pretty shocked at the way some of those guys communicated.... (but also have to say that a few of those guys were fine, Diens Doralemh irereuk were calm and rational the whole time)
There was never really any debait in who was right or whos wrong... Eleasias new his arguement about them having the rights to the spot as we werent pulling wouldnt stand up to much..... Like I said in the chat log, if this was the case you would get swarms of grps camping the spot and pulling as soon as the Main fins grp got a LD or did a player transfer and then you would have chaos in Hibernia...... The reply that he "hardly cares for chaos in hib" sums it up. These guys just want to get to 50 fast and join RVR guilds...
They knew the score, but basically they didnt care. Will naming and shaming them effect or change them???? I doubt it, but I am sure they luv me loads now(which I can live with).... but it is a sharp reminder that we are judged on how we behave in this game... If you wanna play like a child, then its fair to give warning to the realm to treat you like a child accordinly.....
The thing that will interest me is what guilds will let players like this join them. That, I will watch with interest.....
Like I said before, this was never really about who was right or wrong for me.... I was just pretty shocked at the way some of those guys communicated.... (but also have to say that a few of those guys were fine, Diens Doralemh irereuk were calm and rational the whole time)
There was never really any debait in who was right or whos wrong... Eleasias new his arguement about them having the rights to the spot as we werent pulling wouldnt stand up to much..... Like I said in the chat log, if this was the case you would get swarms of grps camping the spot and pulling as soon as the Main fins grp got a LD or did a player transfer and then you would have chaos in Hibernia...... The reply that he "hardly cares for chaos in hib" sums it up. These guys just want to get to 50 fast and join RVR guilds...
They knew the score, but basically they didnt care. Will naming and shaming them effect or change them???? I doubt it, but I am sure they luv me loads now(which I can live with).... but it is a sharp reminder that we are judged on how we behave in this game... If you wanna play like a child, then its fair to give warning to the realm to treat you like a child accordinly.....
The thing that will interest me is what guilds will let players like this join them. That, I will watch with interest.....