Minstrel noob questions :)

[Urme the Legend]

Why does most minstrel use Malice Axe instead of Battler? Is it because of the procc? Cause when you change from Instrument -> Malice you need to generate the const+hit points from Malice... it sucks.

Is Phoebus Harp the only viable option for an instrument for a Minstrel? You can play all songs with it if I've recieved the correct information?

What's the "optimal" specc? I will autotrain instruments.
I was thinking about 50inst/34slash/and the rest in stealth.
Or do I need more stealth?

What artifacts is a "must have" for a minstrel? I will try to get GoV, SoM, Maddening, Winged Helm, Malice/Battler...

I made a quick template here that imo looks decent.. perhaps abit many artifacts Made for solo RvR mainly...

LOKI Build Report
Name: Urme
Race: Briton
Class: Minstrel
Level: 50

Dual Wield
Item Utility: 803.7
Build Utility: 803.7
Useable Utility: 797.0
TOA Utility: 328.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Statistic
Strength: 93/91
Constitution: 95/93
Dexterity: 48/80
Quickness: 80/80
Intelligence: 0/75
Piety: 0/75
Charisma: 75/75
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 312/336
Power: 0/25

Resistance
Body: 25/26
Cold: 26/26
Heat: 23/26
Energy: 9/26
Matter: 20/26
Spirit: 24/26+5
Crush: 26/26+2
Thrust: 28/26
Slash: 24/26+3

Skill
Stealth: 3/11
Slash: 8/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 16/26
Constitution: 18/26
Dexterity: 5/26
Quickness: 5/26
Hits: 136/200

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 28/50
Spell Range: 4/10
Spell Damage: 4/10
Style Damage: 9/10
Melee Damage: 7/10
Melee Combat Speed: 12/10
Fatigue: 4/25

Chest (Guard of Valor):
Imbue: 22.0
Hits: 40
Strength: 18
Dexterity: 15
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Melee Damage: 4
Style Damage: 4
Spell Range: 4
Spell Damage: 4
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 100.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Arms (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
Constitution: 19
Quickness: 25
Charisma: 22
Cold: 7%
Utility: 58.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Head (Winged Helm):
Imbue: 28.0
Hits: 40
Dexterity: 15
Strength: 15
Matter: 5%
Spirit: 5%
Armour Factor: 10
Utility: 50.0
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Legs (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Constitution: 22
Charisma: 25
Slash: 3
Cold: 9%
Utility: 64.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Hands (Maddening Scalars):
Imbue: 20.0
Hits: 40
Constitution: 15
Quickness: 15
Melee Combat Speed: 3
Melee Damage: 3
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
Quickness (Cap Increase): 5
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 50.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Feet (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
Quickness: 25
Charisma: 13
Slash: 5
Crush: 5%
Utility: 60.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (Malice Axe):
Imbue: 20.0
Strength: 15
Constitution: 15
Hits: 40
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Style Damage: 5
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 55.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Hand (Cyclops Shield):
Imbue: 30.0
Hits: 40
Heat: 5%
Matter: 5%
Body: 5%
Spirit: 5%
Energy: 5%
Armour Factor: 8
Hits (Cap Increase): 32
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 16.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Neck (Ancient Copper Necklace(SI neck)):
Imbue: 45.0
Crush: 10%
Thrust: 10%
Body: 10%
Spirit: 10%
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Shades of Mist):
Imbue: 20.0
Stealth: 3
Strength: 15
Quickness: 15
Fatigue: 4
Armour Factor: 10
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 43.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Jewel (Ancient Roman Coin):
Imbue: 31.0
Hits: 24
Heat: 8%
Thrust: 8%
Slash: 8%
Utility: 54.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Belt (Belt of the Brute):
Imbue: 32.0
Hits: 48
Dexterity: 18
Strength: 30
Melee Combat Speed: 2
Strength (Cap Increase): 6
Utility: 44.0
TOA Utility: 22.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (Ring of Moirai):
Imbue: 24.0
Constitution: 24
Hits: 40
Spirit: 4%
Constitution (Cap Increase): 8
Hits (Cap Increase): 64
Utility: 34.0
TOA Utility: 32.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (Crocodile Tear's Ring):
Imbue: 25.0
Heat: 4%
Cold: 4%
Energy: 4%
Matter: 4%
Body: 4%
Charisma: 15
Utility: 50.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (Ebon Hide):
Imbue: 30.0
Cold: 6%
Body: 6%
Heat: 6%
Slash: 6%
Matter: 6%
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (Cyclone Bracer):
Imbue: 38.0
Crush: 11%
Thrust: 10%
Slash: 10%
Melee Combat Speed: 2
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

 

[DrunkSkunk]

Why does most minstrel use Malice Axe instead of Battler? Is it because of the procc? Cause when you change from Instrument -> Malice you need to generate the const+hit points from Malice... it sucks.

malice got nice proc and nice /use2 (helps some on FZ ride ;o)
ye it sucks you to generate the hp you gain.. which is only 80hp(ish)

Is Phoebus Harp the only viable option for an instrument for a Minstrel? You can play all songs with it if I've recieved the correct information? .

PH is nice to have.. so yo can wear battler/LW on back for charge/LW on armour types

What's the "optimal" specc? I will autotrain instruments.
I was thinking about 50inst/34slash/and the rest in stealth.
Or do I need more stealth?.

viable spec depends on playstyle! (i got 44instr 44slash 20ish stealth ;o)

What artifacts is a "must have" for a minstrel? I will try to get GoV, SoM, Maddening, Winged Helm, Malice/Battler...

Either SoM or Scallars, as they both lack lots of util! imo


have fun with ze mincer

 

[DrunkSkunk]

oh , and if you wanna stealth, get more +stealth in you temp, or you are better of without it, and use it to get 11slash

 

[Kami]

I'd agree with DrunkSkunk. you either have stealth or do without. A little stealth really isn't that useful as you'll be blatantly obvious to any stealther and to a lesser extent anyone else.

My minstrel is spec'd:
50 chants, 29 Slash (for amy) and 31 stealth. That's a longstanding spec of over 3 years and since I haven't rvr'd at all for over 2 years I couldn't tell you how it stands up in rvr. I doubt it'd be any good in all honesty unless you were a reasonably high RR.

If I was specing him for RvR with stealth I think I'd try this spec:

44 Instruments - for last DD
34 Slash/35 Stealth - Easy enough to get 50 on both with +11 off items and a couple of RRs.

however since I've gone off stealthers a bit I'm more likely to ignore stealth entirely giving me this spec:

50 Instruments
43 Slash

If you autotrained Instruments you could get 50 Instr/44 Slash.

 

[DrunkSkunk]

44 Instruments - for last DD

last DD is at 50

44 Instruments/34 Slash/35 Stealth - Easy enough to get 50 on both with +11 off items and a couple of RRs.

seems like a good spec if you want to stealth xD



your quiz rox xDD

 

[Kami]

Erm <facepalms> forgot about the 50 DD, wasn't that added in later? I'd probably spec'd me char by then


that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!

Edit: I just noticed who's asking, Urme weren't you pretty well known on Mid/excal ? remember seen an Urme around, good crafter if I remember correctly!

 

[DrunkSkunk]

Erm <facepalms> forgot about the 50 DD, wasn't that added in later? I'd probably spec'd me char by then

ye it got added in patch 1.55orso




ye, thought urme played mid/excal too.; but there is no clue he gonna play alb/excal

and omfg give rep^!!

 

[elbeek]

50 Inst is an absolute must have. Not only do u get the last DD, you also get the top tier ablat. I am currently specced 50inst, 29 slash, 31 stealth and am warlord. It is a very viable spec for both grp and solo rvr. The other fav spec for many mincers is 50 inst, 44 slash 12 stealth. However 12 stealth is useless, you get no climb walls, no safe fall and you will be seen miles away.

As far as artis go GOV, SoM, Malice, Battler are the current must have items. Malice is main weapon with Battler for the charge. A lot of mincers also use Winged Helm, I dont so can't comment.

When doing a template try and get at least +20 str cap ( if you are slash spec)and cap charisma as this affects your DD's. I also make sure stealth and slash are capped on the skill line, no need to put any plus inst unless you intend to run with high level pets.

PH is a very nice arti to have, although its a pain to lvl. It will allow you to have battler perma equipped and there is no need for flute/lute. The necklace itself is of very low utility so avoid using it in your template. Just make sure you equip it 5 mins or so before you log so you can summon the harp next time you log on.

Hope this helps.

 

[Urme the Legend]

Yes my Warrior on Mid/Exc is named Urme .. but I have been away from the game since January now, playing WoW. And since the servers will merge I'm gonna try a Minstrel, albion is the only realm I never really tried

I think I will try to get rid of a couple of artifacts in my template and remake it so I get +11 stealth and +11 slash.

I will autotrain instruments, but I won't spec 50/44.. cause I need stealth.

Thanks alot guys!

Edit: And getting +20str cap, +11stealth, +11slash, capped charisma, quickness, resists is almost impossible Can someone post their Minstrel template?

 

[elbeek]

Urme, pm me ingame, I will help if I can.

 

[Minimac]

Making a thrust 1 now Will be no good to you imo)

 

[DrunkSkunk]

Edit: And getting +20str cap, +11stealth, +11slash, capped charisma, quickness, resists is almost impossible Can someone post their Minstrel template?

you forgot hits and con

 

[Gamah]

Urme

I am mobstomper/thorey from the old days, if your on prydwen pm Gamah, i'll hook you up with some powerleveling cash/artifacts...old friend

 

[Naffets]

Urme

I am mobstomper/thorey from the old days, if your on prydwen pm Gamah, i'll hook you up with some powerleveling cash/artifacts...old friend

lol gamah, didn't know thats who you were. Mobstomper as in the uber puller at malmo? or the other mobstomper?

 

[Gamah]

lol gamah, didn't know thats who you were. Mobstomper as in the uber puller at malmo? or the other mobstomper?

I am the original malmo madman

 

[Leel]

Old memories

 

[Gamah]

haha legendary macros!

 

[Urme the Legend]

Haha.. I remember Mobstomper from Malmo ofc And that screenshot must have been from the summer of 2002 or something Leel

 

[Naffets]

I am the original malmo madman

Jeez if i'd have known that i wouldn't have taken the piss out of you so much

 

[Gamah]

err thanks I think :E

 

[Borf]

Urme come back to midgard you gimp!!!

I retired just as you, but will stay retired (too bad h'uh!)

Have fun with your mincer, played one till lvl 28 or so, real fun

Bring back more old gamers!!! =)


Greetz,

Borf, the mad dwarf from Bokkerijders =)

 

[Urme the Legend]

Urme come back to midgard you gimp!!!

I retired just as you, but will stay retired (too bad h'uh!)

Have fun with your mincer, played one till lvl 28 or so, real fun

Bring back more old gamers!!!


Greetz,

Borf, the mad dwarf from Bokkerijders

Haha Borf are you still trolling these forums

I started my "journey" last night, but it didn't go that well it's hard to find a good exp spot for a Necro+leech

 

[Kathal]

/cry

 

[Urme the Legend]

/cry

I would also cry if I knew I had myself as an enemy

 

[Borf]

Haha Borf are you still trolling these forums

I started my "journey" last night, but it didn't go that well it's hard to find a good exp spot for a Necro+leech

aye
Seems I CAN stop playing the game simply because I don't have the time, but you always have time to stop by at a forum

Guess i'm still addicted ^_^
you too as well though

 

[Klonk]

Legendary screenshot imo, just looking at that qbar makes you nostalgic

The chat was pretty funny too