Merging of servers?

[Matriarch|Sneakers]

Blizzard has created some of the best player vs player games ever so I think most people will have faith in them on that point.

We all know what they did to diablo, and imo Blizzard is no better then mythic when it comes to making changes in games, and altering stuff that is already working and shouldn't be changed.

/Edit: I got no faith what so ever in Blizzard, none at all... they will most likely fuck up wow in 6-8 months aswell ... hence WoW Expansion t:t

 

[Saggy]

All in all, the biggest mistake Mythic has done is to make drastic changes to the game instead of small steps in the right direction where small changes was needed (Trials of Atlantis and New Frontiers), and small steps in the right direction where drastic steps was needed (Buffbot issue, for example)

Indeed.

WoW wont kill Daoc, ToA/NF already done it Daoc is like an Ferrari which has been used as an public toilet - full of puke and shit and therefore not usable for its primary purpose. Ever again.

 

[Vladamir]

Yeah

Wait, i'm still having plenty of fun in Daoc, damn you Saggy

 

[Saggy]

Yeah

Wait, i'm still having plenty of fun in Daoc, damn you Saggy

Yeah That Ferrari can still be driven and you may enjoy it (in some kinky weirdo way Oo) but by knowing how much better it would be without the shit and puke you may prefer to do something else, maybe even buying a Audi TT (WoW ) which isn't as good as clean Ferrari but beats the smelly Ferrari hands down.

 

[Vladamir]

Now that i can Yeah to

 

[Oldfaravid]

We yet haven't seen the PvP system tho which is an important part for most players I think. The only important part for me :>

Hmm well in US open I played alot of PvP and it is better PvP then daoc.. Why?? well for one its BALANCED and skill makes alot in a fight, in wow a player 2-3 levels below another player can actually win if he plays his char to the max.. So what there was no "rewards" implented ..

PvP for me is being able to attack and have great fun fights against other players(and it is even better if those attacks have a purpose like war between the races instead of full gank PvP).. Most daoc players however seem to be after a reward system that will "confirm" that they are the UBERPLAYER --> LOOK IM RR70+ I CAN GANK YOU ALL.. So what I got no rewards for killing that nightelf... I got the satisfaction to see my sworn enemy die bye my hand.. WoW PvP real simple real fun.. No insanse CC where you in fights cant even fight back... A game needs some CC and wow actually does it perfect for PvP there is some but its not the same as in daoc where you get mezzed/stunned and nuked down in half a sec and then the nuke train just continues without one group being able to fight back even..

 

[Zebolt]

I can understand that partly Fara. But I as many other players want the time put in my char to show. To gain greater powers and get benefits. It's like PvE without levling.

And I don't think "LOOK IM RR70+ I CAN GANK YOU ALL" is it at all, but I don't see the point to PvP over and over again for nothing. As I would never PvE if I didn't gain lvls etc ^^

 

[Bone_Idle]

Cant we all just love each other instead of killing each other?

 

[Ovi1]

Cant we all just love each other instead of killing each other?

Go play Sims imo

 

[Mordur]

there _are_ rewards for pvp in wow, unlike some of you people would think...
but cba to explain

 

[Bloodhunter]

kill prydwen make huge zergs, now thats fun xD

 

[SoulFly]

It's of Buhutihuhutihuu. Server merges won't happen.

 

[SoulFly]

Don't write anything off yet. People said that SWG would kill DAoC as well remember...

Yes, but SWG was a failure and not many wanted to play that buggy piece of trash.

Whatcomes to WoW, it's far superior when compared to something like swg or lineage2. As you've probably noticed, WoW has sold out from many stores, which none those games did not.

The impact of WoW already shows on daoc servers and on the community as the "elite" and loads of others leave for something new and more enjoyable than DAoC.

WoW will dominate the MMORPG Scene till something new is out. It beat EQ2. Tells you something now doesn't it.

Ofcourse there's hope in DAoC, but as I see it, after playing from release, the flaws of DAoC are not in WoW. (Leveling, crafting, iitems=artifacts in particular *cough*). I will, without a doubt buy Catacombs, but it must add alot to the game in order to bring it back to life.

 

[SoulFly]

People poking WoW's PvP need to read the PvP article on their page.

Retail has just started in the U.S and Closed Beta running on Euro, so improvements and changes are being made now and in the future.

Do I even have to remind you what DAoC RvR was like till the patch with real abilities ? What about DAoC Eu Retail start?

Thought so.

 

[Morchaoron]

merging 2 servers would be hell on earth for the GM's i reckon...

What about duplicate names? Housing? Guilds? other db crap?

ouch

Do I even have to remind you what DAoC RvR was like till the patch with real abilities ?

ohh i remember what it was like when we got those abilities, alot of them were bugged and a few were fixed 2 years later.... o wait they werent fixed... they just deleted and replaced them ;o

 

[Thor666]

Server merging..

I'm playing pryd/mid, and yes the server can seem dead at some times. But i've found that in order to play (and have fun doing it), u only need a duo/trio, then u can make quests, farm items (and artis), heck u can even go to thid and have some lowbie fun..
I started playing Daoc 4 months ago, and for me it is still as exciting and challenging as the first time i tried it..

I'm no elite player and with my crap equipment, and a mere total of 5 P, i still manage to have alot of fun.. Yes i get ganked sometimes, but its not all about having the best equipment/spec/lvl being optimized -its about having fun

Server merging: yeah would be cool to have a larger population, but i kinda like it the way it is, plenty action in rvr, no overcamped exp-spots (oh yeah vendo ).
Was in bg yeasterday, 50 mids in there, and it was great action

Maybe the server aint so dead yet, people just have to get together. And if people would use Battlegrounds too lvl from 1-50 we would'nt have 1 lvl 30 shaman soloing in one part of the realm and 2 duoing warriors in the other.
We could have some good battles in the battlegrounds together, as a team.

Just got a lvl 50 char 3 weeks ago:
Hvergelmer, lvl 50 healer

 

[SoulFly]

ohh i remember what it was like when we got those abilities, alot of them were bugged and a few were fixed 2 years later.... o wait they werent fixed... they just deleted and replaced them ;o

Managed to typo Realm Abilities

 

[ghoulert]

Whatcomes to WoW, it's far superior when compared to something like swg or lineage2. As you've probably noticed, WoW has sold out from many stores, which none those games did not.

One thing I want you lot to keep in mind, that probably LOTS of the people who even buy WoW is warcraft 3 players, and a major part of war3 players are kids, who probably expect this game to be remotely close to war3, which its not.

local war3 kids seem to think its a easy ride to 70 etc, but they'll find it out the hard way so they quit. Cant be sure this is whats going to happen to a major part of the database, but prolly a medium-sized share of players are going to quit cause of that.

imo!fyi!

thats what i think anyhow ,p

 

[Cami]

Meeeerge please!

Dont care much about guild bp's or houses - just want my chars, items and money moved

 

[Maddude]

I think we can get big enough zergs already ><, dislike zergs, its cool if its like it is atm, can get big force out but u dont need a uber large force to go out n try to kill something, u can go solo even and have some fun...

Just my thought.

 

[Chronictank]

no ty
i came here to get away from excal zergs not become one with them

 

[Lyne]

From all this talk it looks like the effect WoW does or doesn't have will make interesting news.

I've started playing DAoC again after a few months break, I don't touch level 50 stuff so I'm not the best person to comment. I kinda agree that ToA was an expansion that I could have done without (Family, work, limited spare time and ToA do not a happy level 50 make!), but then you can get plenty of great ToA-free action in Thidranki.. The fact that if you want you can stay in Thidranki for all time means that my subscription will stay untill that changes.

I'm working on my first level 50 on my 2nd account just to give me more /level 20 slots, I wouldn't be mad enough to use him in the frontiers

 

[Sugah]

1st time i've seen this post and its probably been said a few times before but merging excal and prydwen isn't an option for me. I have players on both.

 

[Quetz]

I think its kinda ironic that most of the players that say the server is fine atm are the ones that play mainly in BG's... /shrug

WoW will hit DAoC hard for sure, in fact it already is. More players leaving every day and not many new players are coming in. Guilds seem to become more and more inactive as each week passes and more members decide they've had enough and would rather not be paying to wait for WoW.

Imo the server is dead already and now its a case of how long it will last until the plug gets pulled. GOA need to market the game to get some new players in to avoid it, and they need to be starting that now, not when WoW EU is released. Given the choice of playing a game thats a few years old and one thats just released, most will buy the new game. Its no fun playing catch up and that is exactly what any new players have to do. At least let them know that DAoC is an option, cos atm DAoC has zero availability/marketing on the UK high street.

Don't think a server merge would work, or would even be considered by GOA, they would just take the hit in subscribers, or if players really wanted to play an english server they would have to reroll.

 

[Craparoni]

If they fix the Toa shaiit, it will help ALOT ,i dont care how they do it, but all that Toa grinding stuff are major pooo uke:
It will never happen thus Goa has their own foot way up their asses = dead game. its really sad tho, that such a great game has been destroyed cus of 1 stupid addon.

 

[Krakatau]

Gazing into the crystal ball...

Already quite a few spanish speaking players are playing on UK servers...
Open up spanish & italian servers will:

1. Make UK servers loose quite a few players to new servers...

2. Increase the time needed to patch to all languages - And I don't care if GOA says it will not - you will loose momentum on the translation & testing

3. Hopefully force GOA to cooperate with Mythic to make players able to use /charcopycrossatlantic from UK servers - and let GOA keep up on their translation project...

Sometimes I want GOA to translate DAOC into Esperanto and Klingon....
And why not swedish/norwegian/danish...

 

[Wee Soulkeeper]

Another thought....

Why not open a server without ToA?? or atleast no Masterlevels and Artis??

Perhaps this will make atleast the casual player return to DAoC. Now it´s a pure PowerPlayer game and don´t you say anythingelse or you are not an casual player

Wee "who no longer pays his montly fee to GoA"

 

[Helme]

Problem with ToA is that everyone wants to have everything done instantly, take your time instead iwe managed to semi ToA out 3 chars and i still go to school etc.

 

[Brolundar]

Another thought....

Why not open a server without ToA?? or atleast no Masterlevels and Artis??

Perhaps this will make atleast the casual player return to DAoC. Now it´s a pure PowerPlayer game and don´t you say anythingelse or you are not an casual player

Wee "who no longer pays his montly fee to GoA"

It wont work.
Pre-ToA det tanks >> all, post ToA caster >> all.

It was mentioned before, instead of making small steps we got rude changes what kicked off casual players. Casual player did work hard to level a char to find him useless due to patches. Level a new char again and again?

May be a respec class would help here ...

Other issues. There are lot of players wich gained deep knowledge of ingame mechanics etc. but instead of asking them or the whole community, where the ame should go to, or at least lend an ear to the TL, Mythic always made its own decisions, most of them not understandable to the community.

At least there is one question. Why in the hell ppl still play this game, if all went bad? Gank groups of course still have a lot of fun earning about 200k rp a week. And the rest? Most of them are still here because of friends, guilds, ingame community and may be they still have things they want to do ingame.
If lots of friends leaving the game ...

 

[Chronictank]

No insanse CC where you in fights cant even fight back... A game needs some CC and wow actually does it perfect for PvP there is some but its not the same as in daoc where you get mezzed/stunned and nuked down in half a sec and then the nuke train just continues without one group being able to fight back even..

When you reach a descent rr comment, everyone has access to 5 min purge, det 5 has been around a very long time now (removed in NF) so that comment holds no water.

WoW pvp is too simple, i was bored of it after a week, hopefully they add a bit more content in the real release but as it is nothing more than a run in the bgs equivalent in daoc

If they fix the Toa shaiit, it will help ALOT ,i dont care how they do it, but all that Toa grinding stuff are major pooo uke:
It will never happen thus Goa has their own foot way up their asses = dead game. its really sad tho, that such a great game has been destroyed cus of 1 stupid addon.

I liked toa tbh, yes it was a bit of a grind but introduced the most balanced rvr in the game since release. The only people toa hurt is the lazy and the power levelers, I am a casual player yet i have a uber tweaked template with most the best artis so it is possible if you put the effort in. Saying that you dont need the best template you can make average templates for very little time like i have done for my alts

I would be happy with a OF server with the toa "shaiit"