Melee Chars: Do You think..

[Nate]

probably a 1.84 valk would, various rr's

 

[Infanity]

Possibly yeh, Providing i can use tools aswell!

 

[BloodOmen]

think mincers hot for like 150-250 ish... seems to be the average anyway :x maybe little more without battler etc and don't listen to jamie he's such geordie

 

[Void959]

Well if you're allowed SOS to run away and heal then surely assassins are allowed vanish to simply run away and negate your most serious timers then come back and attack you.

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

doubt meny classes would be able to beat a high rr mincer who dump all abilitys on the enemy...

the only classes I could imagine that would be able to kill a high rr mincer with all up would be some1 who could outlast the abilitys then it shouldn't be such a big problem, so maybe a dem vamp with the highest resists would have a chance, charging away when the mincer use's Warguard/Battler, then come back before the mincer get a chance to mezz him.

caster with lifetap and moc 3 can be countered with Stun/Mezz/SOS away/Confuse(1 time at least)/Run trough

Heavy tanks can be countered by kiteing and killing with DD's... and I've killed loads of hero's who use moose and IP in fights aswell, but I dono about armsmen haven't really tried fighting em

Charge tanks take a lot of dmg, and can be kited after charge/before (SOS away and DD when u have the range)

Champs can debuff yes, but I haven't fought 1 for a loooonnnggg time but there dmg output wasn't good enough last time I fought 1 with my mincer considering all the absorbe items a mincer can get

Valk's, dono haven't lost to 1, but they might get tougher with the new patch, I haven't see how much love they get

Wardens, well the ones I've meet have been gimped and about power draining have u seen how little it acually drains now a days, I dono how good the heal proc stuff is tho on wardens tho, but a fast weapon to hit should be able to make some dmg even after they got shield spec, and stun works aswell then Stun, Mezz 45 sec later incase he purges and heal song to 100% HP etc etc

but a mincer have soo meny tools to play around with I doubt meny classes would be able to kill a perfect played mincer

 

[Straef]

Yeah, probably. Seeing you won't be able to use more than one of your artifact charges that fight (unless it turns out to be a long one) using battler/banespike should do the trick, unless you plan on strafing or sos'ing off.

 

[Neffneff]

i think i could, though it might take a fair few viper3 lifebane re-applications

 

[pip]

You could beat my minstrel if I used ALL my toys,

Wargard/Battler/som up/wh up/5% cl melee sists/ablative double taps/ip2/purge2/sos to heal or mez w/e/Malice debuff/cl harp resist pierce buff/Warlord 10% heal. + heal pots/end pots..

Try to not flame me if possible this is NOT an e-peen contest, but really head to head, do you think if I dumped everything I had your class would win..or do you think minstrels are invincible when dumping?

Take it out and find out Maybe 75% melle resist up folk got a chance but rr5 below to your rr10 should be face down club,mincers are pretty tough

 

[Congax]

Sure I can, Gamah is a total gimp :<

 

[Agrigo]

Correct me if im wrong , but if you use battler and warguard and lets say a random rr5 champ comes along , uses malice adn rr5 ability - wouldnt he basically 2 hit you with all the reverse abs going on ?

 

[Jorof]

I'd give it a go

 

[Martok]

ill fight you gamah with all your toys

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

ill fight you gamah with all your toys

hehe too bad u will get warguard aswell since u are in same realm

 

[brad]

my s/s valk in 1.84 would prolly

Vavi stop now before you get embarresed

 

[illu]

A mincer with everything up is indeed a nasty fight. Assassins might be able to give you a good fight depending if they get the jump on you (PA+CD) and whether they have their tools up (Battler or Malice in fight/PH/AF+25%/Haste/CL Buffs or Buffbot Resists/Poisonspike) and whether they are Viper3 specced.

But it all boils down to -> A mincer can choose whether to fight to the death or not because at any time, they can SoS away if they want.

I've done something similar on my SB, trying to have literally everything up to attack the very hardest people, and obviously it depends on what they have up when you fight them, but the only person that has survived everything that I have thrown at them was Nightsend (Blademaster?) . But I WILL get him one day dammit!

Oli - Illu

 

[Dorimor1]

My thid bd would if I strafed enough.

 

[Dave J.]

Most tank'ish classes with the same win-ra's as yourself would probably kill you, especially with the same charges up.

"sos away to heal", purge1 your mez, then fa2/cl-heal, and its basically mincer vs tank again, but without any toys, who will win then you think?

 

[Coolan]

reckon i could do it with my zerker, next time im activly online will be up for giving it a try.

 

[Bondoila]

Mintrels hit for 60 dmg in melee xD what are they like level 30?

dmg on my ranger from a minstrel using malice is between 25 - 90. The thing that kills me is the dd's.

 

[Straef]

dmg on my ranger from a minstrel using malice is between 25 - 90. The thing that kills me is the dd's.

Got physical defense on the ranger? Or possibly just dodgy minstrels you ran into

 

[lpep]

with all my toys up on warr wouldnt be too tough.......

 

[Bondoila]

Got physical defense on the ranger? Or possibly just dodgy minstrels you ran into

yeah is pd4(and slash resistant armor), so not only minstrels doing crap dmg.

 

[Gahn]

Guess i'd have a fat chance with all my toys up -.-

 

[fettoken]

Moc3, lifetap lifetap.

 

[Congax]

Moc3, lifetap lifetap.

Yes, reading the thread title requires no moc. Thus you fail in comprehending it.

 

[Spetsnaz]

i can duel u with all ur toys up np (minstrels are easy to kill on warden)

 

[fettoken]

Oh, you ment melée, nm then.

 

[fettoken]

Yes, reading the thread title requires no moc. Thus you fail in comprehending it.

oh really

 

[Tuthmes]

Vamp could prawn you, ranja's could, same as for chimp's and thats just hib classes :|

 

[Raven]

yes