Macintyre Investigates

[Embattle]

Originally posted by Perplex
Granted - but the simple fact of the matter is that this whole issue was caused by the British, Americans, and the holocaust survivors.

Told you.

 

[Perplex]

Originally posted by Mr.Blackshirt


well what do you want then. someone becomming the head of a major company without any talents? You have to start somewhere and that will take time. I am a bit of an optimist and I think over 10 years things will be a lot diverant.
Also most big companies are based in the west, where there are more "white" people.

I'm not disagreeing with you, nor trying to propose a solution. Merely pointing out a mitigating factor for the current climate we find ourselves in today.

 

[Embattle]

Originally posted by Perplex


I'm not disagreeing with you, nor trying to propose a solution. Merely pointing out a mitigating factor for the current climate we find ourselves in today.

We find otherselves in this climate because the human race is just one massive fucktard.

 

[Perplex]

Originally posted by Skyler
I cant see rolemodels causing it that much. Seeing black people at the head of companies doesnt make black youths want to work hard and such. That aint gonna happen anyway, until you get them working hard for degrees and stuff, but so many arent they are just commiting crimes? :/

If most asians can get their children very well commited at school/college/uni and career motivated, then I'm sure the same can be done for black kids. Asians didnt exactly have many role models originally, but so many asians now are sucessful in business.

Hmmmm, I can see where you're coming from with this, but it certainly is a mitigating factor that there are very few affluent blacks out there in the public eye that have gained their success and position through amiable and respectable means.

I'm not saying that there aren't affluent blacks out there that HAVE gained their success through respectable routes, just pointing out that when you compare the number in the public eye that have 'succeeded' by preaching messages of violence (rappers et al) against those who have done it in a respectable manner, they far outweigh the latter.

 

[mr.Blacky]

again mitigating factors bullshit I believe a person should stand up for him/herself. You and you allone are responsible for your acts. Everyone has a choice what to do and what not to do. If I steal then that is my choice, I think it is childish and immature to say that I did it because of the way I grew up. Also it doesn't speak well for my parents then.



Humankind is growing, aswell in knowledge as in ethics. at the moment we are just not "wise" enough, but we will get there.

 

[Perplex]

Originally posted by Embattle


We find otherselves in this climate because the human race is just one massive fucktard.

Unfortunately true, but the danger is that we fall deeper into the warm fuzzy slumber of apathy and indifference allowing the situation to proliferate and multiply exponentially further out of control

 

[Perplex]

Originally posted by Mr.Blackshirt
again mitigating factors bullshit I believe a person should stand up for him/herself. You and you allone are responsible for your acts. Everyone has a choice what to do and what not to do. If I steal then that is my choice, I think it is childish and immature to say that I did it because of the way I grew up. Also it doesn't speak well for my parents then.



Humankind is growing, aswell in knowledge as in ethics. at the moment we are just not "wise" enough, but we will get there.

And there should be no pollution, we should all live as one happy family, and there should be no wars, and there should be no currency in the world.

Utopian crap - yes, ifit was possible,all fine and well - unfortunately this is reality and those goals are so far off it's almost funny.

Let's get to the current issues and take things one setp at a time eh?

 

[mr.Blacky]

do you not plan where you want to walk to?
Any journey begins with the first step.

 

[Skyler]

Originally posted by Mr.Blackshirt
again mitigating factors bullshit I believe a person should stand up for him/herself. You and you allone are responsible for your acts. Everyone has a choice what to do and what not to do. If I steal then that is my choice, I think it is childish and immature to say that I did it because of the way I grew up. Also it doesn't speak well for my parents then.



Humankind is growing, aswell in knowledge as in ethics. at the moment we are just not "wise" enough, but we will get there.

Upbringing plays a huge part in how you turn out as a person, you might be brought up a certain way, and see crime as something that is more ok. For example a white child may be brought up to think blacks/asians are outcasts and shouldnt be around, that child would grow up a racist, and may never realise any different. What happens when you are a child has so much influence over you later in life.

 

[mr.Blacky]

yes upbringing influences you, but you make the discisions. It will infuence your discisions but you are responsible for that discision. If a person says "I did it caus I had a bad youth", that person knows he was wrong, otherwise why make an excuse for what he/she did.

 

[Perplex]

I just need to add that my stated opinion does not mean I believe that to be the sole factor for the current situation prevailent in todays society, but just one of many overlapping and concurrent interconnected factors that lead us to this unfortunate destination.

 

[xane]

Originally posted by Perplex
Look at the heads of all the major companies in the country - white. Look at the prime ministers and main cabinets over the decades - white. The list goes on.

Firstly, white they may be, British they are not.

The main reason is again demographics, in the UK less than 1 in 10 people is "non-white", the number is even smaller if you are talking specifically about "black" (african, afro-carribean origin). In the US the level is slightly more than 1 in 5, so you'd expect a much better representation over there.

Actually, minorities are very well represented in both local and national government in this country, and in fact Asians are very well represented in business.

Originally posted by Perplex
Now look at the majority of rap stars out there - black. Majority of yardie reggae stars - black. (I know I'm picking on music - but I just woke up and I'm too tired to stretch my mind too far).

The music industry is a rather bad choice, as a lot of it is american, which has a higher ratio of black population. A better example would be football or athletics in this country, where there are a number of extremely good black individuals, most of which have excelled to the very top of their profession.

Nevertheless your point is valid, but I still think people should consider culture rather than skin colour. Most areas of poverty are concerned with people from one particular culture, the problem starts when people dress up a particular culture to represent an entire sub-section of humans, it becomes "bad science".