Maby I need to look up the phrase "Stand and Fight"

[Chole]

Not so much as a moan, just a lil light hearted post

So its 3:30am and after hours of Albs owing all 10 Mids/Hibs that turn up in Emain the Mid daily swarm arrives, and they steam roll all the way to AMG where they get out the lunch boxes and set up camp.
So the Alb forces build up, port to Emain and go camp our side of AMG (knowing that if we go through we will be Mezd and AoE'd to kingdom come)
Then those crafty Mids start trickiling through the gates, and before long theres a high number of them our side, no matter for I am heartend to hear the Cry "Stand firm and dont retreat"

So as the Mid horde advances on us, I try a spot of the old AoE root (sadly thats all I have AoE wize, ohh and some crappy mezz)

Well 5 seconds later Im dead, ahh well I think at least they will have to fight us all (pans camera round) "umm how come theres only 6-7 other dead Albs around me?"

Ahh I see the rest ran (Shakes head)

ahh well it happens, ill be out there each night dieing for my Realm, look forward to seeing u all on the battle field

(Ohh and Cheers to a couple of Mids who gave me a few Salutes for trying to stand, Tho id hate to think how many wanted to laugh at the easyness of the RP's I gave you)

 

[SilverHood]

stand still so we can get some RP

 

[robillard]

The answer to your question is simple Chole, Albs dont stand and fight because of their shocking lack of real CC in recent RvR

Robillard
level 6 sorcerer
Guardian

 

[Chole]

Umm didnt realize I had asked a question

and yes I know we have crap CC (Hell if you listen to all the talk there aint one Alb class out there that isnt Gimpd, YAWN)

 

[robillard]

ok maybe you didnt ask a question, but you understood my point. Lets not quibble over semantics

Robilard
level 6 sorcerer
guardian

 

[Chole]

Hehe yes I got the point

Tho Quibbling over your Semantics sounds kinda fun

 

[robillard]

I could quibble with you ingame if the bastards in the accomodation department of manchester university hadnt put me in a room with no internet access forcing me to spend all day on the forums in a public computer cluster.

But this isnt the place for that sort of rant

Robillard
Level 6 sorcerer
Guardian

 

[old.mattshanes]

Hey mids you notice me in emain solo earlier,mainly because albs were at pk doing sod all or nearby not helping oh well i tried my best

 

[Luuna]

Stop pointing out points or you'll have someones eye out!

 

[old.Sko]

No real CC, but enough wizards.
Concentrated AOE fire is the way to go then. At least as of patch 1.53 on us, hibs tend to rely not on aoe mez but mostly on spamming aoe on incoming zerg.

 

[old.Eynar_Vega]

Originally posted by robillard
The answer to your question is simple Chole, Albs dont stand and fight because of their shocking lack of real CC in recent RvR

Robillard
level 6 sorcerer
Guardian

LMAO, You gotta be kidding...
:sleeping:

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

Frankly I dont buy that "we dont rush cause lack of real CC"
Time after time after time has mids been camping Amg and even if we outnumber them the majority of albs are afraid to fight them.
When the time finally comes to rush the campers you find yourself dead in a matter of minutes and look at the rest of the albs who decided to stand back.
Now this gets kinda annoying after some time (and yes it has been going on for quite some time now)
Why is that you're afraid to rush? I mean if the numbers are even, chances are that we might actually beat them or at least kill a great number of them.
How long does it take to go from your bindstone to sauvage?
It takes me one minute to get from cotswold to portal (ok granted im a minstrels but it really shouldnt take that long for the rest of you)
It doesnt hurt when you die in rvr, you dont lose con nor do you lose gold.
So please when people start rushing a camped mg try to follow them, heck you might even win and get some rp. Staying back will get you nothing.

 

[Freia]

W00t! I thought that was your well thought out and diabolicly cunning tactics...
Operation make-them-laugh-so-hard-they-cant-fight, and for those more experienced and not so easilly amused mids it also works but in that case commonly known as bore-them-all-to-death or wait-til-half-of-them-has-to-go-to-bed

hmmm

Well waddayaknow!



Please note the smilys, no flames pwetty pweez

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

its not even funny

 

[Old Nicodemus]

Well all the Albs that stand and fight are always worth a good salute Same to Hibs and Middies too. There are times to be... errrr... tactically aware, and times to say.. Sod it I'm going to at least take one of the gits with me

As for Albs not having CC.

Yeah Right!

Midgard only has one class with AoE mezz. And the people who play that class are few and far between. Yesterday in Emain was the first time I had seen more than one Healer at the AMG for about 3 weeks. (granted I'm not there all the time)

Nevertheless, It was great fun and we had some superb battles. So thank you to all the Albs that made the evening fun.

/salute

Nicodemus

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

Albion also has only one class with AE Mez

 

[Freia]

Originally posted by old.Gombur Glodson
its not even funny

aw common, it was a little funny

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

I guess from you POV, heck if I was playing midgard I would laugh at this to. But try to play albion and go through this a 100 times and then it just gets sad

 

[Freia]

Originally posted by old.Gombur Glodson
I guess from you POV, heck if I was playing midgard I would laugh at this to. But try to play albion and go through this a 100 times and then it just gets sad

Hey think about us poor mids! We are impatient people ya know.

Imagine sittin on amg for an hour being outnumbered, seing them tincans running around down there and not gettin to bash any.

(well mez in my case )

<sobs at the horrible memories>

[EDIT]: Silly bugged posting code at bw.

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

thats why mg fights are boring
(well at least they are when albs arent the one camping it )

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by old.Gombur Glodson
Albion also has only one class with AE Mez

later patch minstrels get aoe mez, but even now both theurgists and sorcerers have aoe mez.

you also have clerics with insta-pbaoe mez.

hibs have 2 classes with aoe mez, bards and eldritches. we have no insta pbaoe mez or pbaoe mez of any kind, or insta aoe mez of any kind (til next patch)

mids have aoe mez in healers and spiritmasters, they have insta aoe mez in healers, and aoe stun and insta aoe stun, which no other realm has either of, SMs also have castable pbaoe mez.

so basically every realm has 2 people with aoe mez, and you lucky mids and albs get pbaoe mez too. and mids get aoe stun also. so by this, midgard has best CC, alb 2nd best, and hibbies come in last..

And go ahead and start flaming that you have nearly no healers/sorcerers etc.. it's no ones fault but your own

Mal

 

[The Real Redi]

Dont stand?

Dont stand? I heartily disagree...

Any Mids or Hibs involved in last nights foray around Crauchon should testify to that, and the last few days in the frontier the albion forces ive been a part of, or have witnessed, have been pretty solid, and dominating, in Yggdra, Upplands & Emain...

Then again, could just be me being biased, but the last few days, last night in particular, have been awesome nights bashing of heads for all albs involved i think...

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

willow, correction.
Theurgs has a root and clerics gets a stun, and the stun gets nerfed.
And the minstrel AE willl be very poor 6 sec cast times and poor range.

 

[old.Noita]

Mal: Spiritmasters have targetted mezz...1 target... and pbAoE mezz... we dont get targetted AoE mezz with 1500 range til next patch and thats only in Darkness specc line.

We may not have a particular shortage of CC in Midgard, but what we do have on occasion is a shortage of those CC classes in RvR for whatever reason.

Toodle pip

 

[Danya]

Theurgist ae mez is only 1250 range, unlike most other ae mez which is 1500 range.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Its more then that besides there shouldnt be CC in rvr because in the old days you wouldnt have an army frozen in the middle of hastings would you

 

[Old Nicodemus]

Its more then that besides there shouldnt be CC in rvr because in the old days you wouldnt have an army frozen in the middle of hastings would you

Saxon No1: Ere! where's that arrow going?

Saxon No2: Errr no idea....

Saxon No3: Think Young Harrold is about to get twated..

<Harrold suddenly appears to have part of Normandy's forest in his left eye>

Harrold: Arrrgh!

<Entire Saxon army turns and looks at Harrold>

<silence>

William the Conquerer: Good job lads! They are mezzed by Harrolds death! Charge!

Saxon No1: Sod this! time to make like an Alb.... RUN!

 

[VidX]

LOL

Mezz? What's that?

Oh yeah... it's that thing that happens to me when fighting BOTH mids and albs, albs more.

You have an abundance of Minstrels... insta CC, though targetable.

Even if you don't have any Sorcerers about in RvR, a nice AoE Root will be just as good, basically tanking all non-casters/ranged hybrids out of commission for a while (unless purge) meaning you can concentrate on single target mezzing and killing casters, ranged classes and CC casters.

You have enough inf's to take down any spotted CC classes and Vanish.

And as Mal said, it's your own fault for lack of primary CC classes.

 

[SilverHood]

I get mezzed more by minstrles than all other classes put together...

that mez seems to work nice enough

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

sigh, minstrel DO NOT have insta CC, what we have is an insta 6 sec stun. Please try to understand that now.